Is personal prophecy scriptural?

[Fundaamental]

You did say it was your own from 12 months of study.

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the exact words I said was i have done a 12 month study at least which was not even anything to do with reference to the source

i did not say the source was my own 12 months study.

I am getting tired of your assertions.

 

[Beckie]

Jesus often answered a question with a question. I learned from the best. Of course, an answer is always given to a sincere heart.

I replied to your reply with a question. The question was simple you chose not to answer, again your business no need to explain yourself.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I’m sure there is more. But this lays a pretty solid case that prophecy gifts can continue to the current age if recognized and biblically approached and applied.

Fine, you believe prophecy has not ceased. I'm not going to say that it has either; that's not my point. My question is where does the New Testament teach personal prophecy as standard operating procedure for the body of Christ? We have clear doctrine on a lot of things but not this.

 

[Beckie]

the exact words I said was i have done a 12 month study at least which was not even anything to do with reference to the source

i did not say the source was my own 12 months study.

I am getting tired of your assertions.

Not even man enough to admit truth when caught. and you want folks to think you are a prophet . You have gone from being a run of mill nut case to being a joke.

 

[Magenta]

the exact words I said was i have done a 12 month study at least which was not even anything to do with reference to the source

i did not say the source was my own 12 months study.

I am getting tired of your assertions.

What you said, exactly:

my source of information is a 12 months study at least.

That was your answer to me asking if you were SDA, which/since that was the actual source of your post.
Instead of answering honestly, you deflected, made erroneous assumptions and false accusations,
rambled as you have a tendency to do in your undisciplined manner, and continue to do so. It's no
wonder you tire. Straighten up and fly right. The going is much smoother. And there's less bodies to hide.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I have just found out a seven day adventist is a Christian, and they only differ from other Christians beliefs because they feel Saturday is the seventh day of the week, which has absolutely nothing to do with the source of information.

No I did not claim it was my source you have.

Why are you rejecting truth from the source when Saturday being the seventh day of the week in there opinion holds no significance to the information in the source ?

Seventh Day Adventists are sound on a lot of things but unsound enough to stay away from them. They believe they are "remant Christians" whose responsibility it is to steer the rest of Christendom on the right way. They also believe Ellen G. White was their prophet given them by God and this is proof they've been singled out as the remnant. They make a lot of claims about Bible onlyism but this clearly isn't the case; Ellen White's writings are where they get their understanding of Bible doctrine. All of this is business as usual for any cult.

 

[FollowingtheWay]

Fine, you believe prophecy has not ceased. I'm not going to say that it has either; that's not my point. My question is where does the New Testament teach personal prophecy as standard operating procedure for the body of Christ? We have clear doctrine on a lot of things but not this.

This issue goes back to the basics of how we view scripture. What glasses do we have on while reading. Is the Bible primarily a book of tips, technique, morality, doctrine , guidebook, truth- which yes it does contain these things but isn’t it rather primarily a book that shows us examples of how to enter into greater intimacy and relationship with God?

for instance let’s use parenting as an example

Like parenting is this primarily about compliance or deeper into the Child’s heart? Behavior issues are crucial but primarily it is relationship. Calling out their heart and the deeper issues of their souls.

This is what I believe God to be after. Not primarily about are we using prophecy in 100% correct doctrine. I believe God is more concerned where our heart and motives are behind the intention to prophecy.

 

[Lamar]

That God instructed these Pastors to build bigger churches because in the coming future, more people will become Members.

And that after each church was built, in less than 2 years time, all 3 churches were at max capacity.

But really should point out that the current congregation before expansion believed their Pastor did hear from God and joined the Vision.

As result, all 3 Personal Prophecies came true.

The only group that would accept this logic are those who want the personal prophecy to be true.

Using this line of reasoning Joseph Smith's personal prophecies also came true.

 

[ResidentAlien]

This issue goes back to the basics of how we view scripture. What glasses do we have on while reading. Is the Bible primarily a book of tips, technique, morality, doctrine , guidebook, truth- which yes it does contain these things but isn’t it rather primarily a book that shows us examples of how to enter into greater intimacy and relationship with God?

for instance let’s use parenting as an example

Like parenting is this primarily about compliance or deeper into the Child’s heart? Behavior issues are crucial but primarily it is relationship. Calling out their heart and the deeper issues of their souls.

This is what I believe God to be after. Not primarily about are we using prophecy in 100% correct doctrine. I believe God is more concerned where our heart and motives are behind the intention to prophecy.

Not if someone says they're speaking in the name of the Lord but they're really not. No amount of good motives can overcome that.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Fine, you believe prophecy has not ceased. I'm not going to say that it has either; that's not my point. My question is where does the New Testament teach personal prophecy as standard operating procedure for the body of Christ? We have clear doctrine on a lot of things but not this.

God spoke to Moses then Moses spoke to the Hebrews.
We can add Prophets, Joshua, David.

Paul, on Demascus road would be similar. What Paul was revealed during that time he wrote in all of his epistles.

Peter got a vision that was for the whole world in that ALL foods are now edible and Gentiles are equal to Jews in the eyes of God.

Apostle John got the Vision of the 7 Churches in first 2 Chapters of Revelation. After John's release, he became Bishop over these 7 Churches and corrected their errors.

So, we see a continuation of personal prophecy that is then later on revealed or dispense.

It is no different than the example I already gave about the 3 Pastors being instructed by God to build bigger churches.

 

[Fundaamental]

You did say it was your own from 12 months of study.

I did not say it was yours at all. Nobody in their right mind, after having
read any number of your posts, could think you actually wrote that.

More erroneous assumptions and false accusations from you. Got anything more edifying?

For future reference, please give sources. And maybe try not to ramble so much. You might make more sense.

you asked me if I wrote the source 1 hour ago and I told you no, but you have refused to accept this.

My source was my my source of information stored in my prophecy folders which I spent half an hour to find to help resident alien.

If some one asks you where are you getting your source of information from you might say I'm getting my source of information from here or there.

You then asked me was I a sDa which was on the source of information. I said no

That should of been enough for you to quit rambling on.

I didn't realise you where implying i had wrote it myself at first and I would not do that because that is self glorifying and cheating.

In other threads I have made I have said this is not my source to befor people they asked, so no once again you have this wrong.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

The only group that would accept this logic are those who want the personal prophecy to be true.

Using this line of reasoning Joseph Smith's personal prophecies also came true.

Then don't ask me. Leave me alone.
I don't make it a habit to entertain myself with any level of stupidity, like Cessation.

 

[FollowingtheWay]

So you agree. No clear teaching.

there does not appear to be a clearly written New Testament procedure NO. But is our God that gives us all the answers or does he wish us to engage him as any good father would want to play and engage with his children? What is Gods heart for his children. Obedience is important but God primarily wants us to choose Him and engage him intimately. God is the fullness of all fatherhood. Would it be loving of our earthly fathers to just give us endless wrote procedures to play and love him? God speaks to us in an intimate personal way not only by scripture but also via His spirit within us. When scripture isn’t clear we can engage conversation with God via Holy Spirit for clarification and as long as it doesn’t violate scripture we can test the spirit to see if the direction is of God.

 

[FollowingtheWay]

Not if someone says they're speaking in the name of the Lord but they're really not. No amount of good motives can overcome that.

That’s where walking with God, testing the spirits come in. We on the receiving end can test the spirits asking God in prayer for confirmation and have faith that God will provide confirmation via another source. Wisdom and discernment were given to us by our creator

 

[Magenta]

you asked me if I wrote the source 1 hour ago and I told you no, but you have refused to accept this.

You eventually admitted you did not write it, after the fact of
being called out on it, but certainly at first you definitely did not.

I didn't realise you where implying i had wrote it myself at first and
I would not do that because that is self glorifying and cheating.

I implied no such thing. In fact I made quite clear I knew you
had not written it, and I gave the source for it right away.

I did not say it was yours at all. Nobody in their right mind, after having
read any number of your posts, could think you actually wrote that.

In other threads I have made I have said this is not my source to befor people they asked, so no once again you have this wrong.

You deflect a lot. Bad habit. Get over it.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I was raised Baptist, Cessation, TULIP.

I probably literally know 5,000 people, Southern Baptist.

I love em to death.

Dumber than a box of rocks: They would be too busy picking out the Elect from non-Elect, that if Jesus Christ, walked down through the middle of all of them, they would not even know who He is!

I am long past the stupid Doctrines!

 

[Magenta]

Not even man enough to admit truth when caught. and you want folks to think you
are a prophet . You have gone from being a run of mill nut case to being a joke.

Breaking news headline?

Would-Be Modern Day Prophet Defrocked In Thread On Modern Day Prophets.

Oh, the irony!

 

[ResidentAlien]

That’s where walking with God, testing the spirits come in. We on the receiving end can test the spirits asking God in prayer for confirmation and have faith that God will provide confirmation via another source. Wisdom and discernment were given to us by our creator

That's fine but I'm not looking for your opinion; I'm looking for sound teaching from the scriptures. If you don't have that then good day.

 

[Lamar]

““And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.”
‭‭Joel‬ ‭2‬:‭28‬ ‭NIV‬‬/ Acts2:17

“Leaving the next day, we reached Caesarea and stayed at the house of Philip the evangelist, one of the Seven. He had four unmarried daughters who prophesied. After we had been there a number of days, a prophet named Agabus came down from Judea.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭21‬:‭8‬-‭10‬ ‭NIV‬‬

“Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭12‬:‭7‬, ‭10‬-‭11‬ ‭NIV‬‬


“Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy. But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort. I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified. For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭14‬:‭1‬, ‭3‬, ‭5‬, ‭31‬ ‭NIV‬‬


“We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭12‬:‭6‬ ‭NIV‬‬

“Do not neglect your gift, which was given you through prophecy when the body of elders laid their hands on you.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭4‬:‭14‬ ‭NIV‬‬

“Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4‬:‭1‬-‭6‬ ‭NIV‬‬

“But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.”
‭‭John‬ ‭16‬:‭13‬ ‭NIV‬‬

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭17‬ ‭NIV‬‬





I’m sure there is more. But this lays a pretty solid case that prophecy gifts can continue to the current age if recognized and biblically approached and applied.
Now,
I don’t know your motives or intentions by pounding on peoples doctrinal beliefs and theological competency. I will let that go for the time and let the Spirit sort that out. I believe there is no biblical line between sacred/secular life nor personal/Church prophecy biblically speaking, personal prophecy IS universal church prophecy when biblically applied . the believers ARE the church.
6 Spirit filled believers gathered in a mud hut in Afghanistan under threat of Islam persecution who have a biblically qualified elder or two carry just as much of the Spirit of our God in their church as a pope, bishop or organized religious establishment . These teachings are meant to penetrate our lives in a personal way and encouragement of the saints just as they did when written. We are 1 universal church and my pastor, actually just spent 10 weeks going through teaching on the apostles creed and the doctrines of faith behind it.

All of your verses ring true but these verses do not convey that supernatural Holy Spirit prophecy has not ceased. Prophecy was never meant to continue forever.

We may not know on what day Paul's prophecy of 1st Cor. 13:8 was fulfilled but fulfilled it has.
You seem to be implying that it has not.

Am I correct?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

All of your verses ring true but these verses do not convey that supernatural Holy Spirit prophecy has not ceased. Prophecy was never meant to continue forever.

We may not know on what day Paul's prophecy of 1st Cor. 13:8 was fulfilled but fulfilled it has.
You seem to be implying that it has not.

Am I correct?

It's when we see Jesus, that is the Perfect to Come.

Thank You, for reminding me, of another stupid Reason, for a Dumber Doctrine