Is porn cheating?

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CCHL

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Both are sins unto death. So they are both serious so as to cause a separation between them and their God if they do not confess or forsake both those kinds of sins. But actually cheating on your spouse is crossing the line in my view. It shows you do not want to be with them anymore and that you don't love them. Also, cheating can cause sexual disease, as well. It is also harder to break off such a sin when you are in a relationship with another human being. So the sin is harder to break if you are to do so. John relates hate with murder. But surely the greater sin is committing murder than say hating someone, though. Murder would be ending their existence. Committing adultery in the sense of cheating on your spouse can actually break up a home and cause a divorce and or death because of the diseases involved. So it is a greater sin. Yes, they are both equally bad and not good in the sense that they can both lead to the Second Death. But I believe one is worse than the other simply by the fact of how destructive one is over the other.
 
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Think about your motive. Jesus said that a man who looks at another woman with lust has committed adultery so let me ask you: Is porn a sin? I believe quite clearly it is because you are looking among many woman with lust and desire of the flesh. Secondly: Is it cheating? Well if you are watching it for pleasure and clearly thinking about the act then yes it is cheating. Good info on this is at fightthenewdrug.org
Yes, it is a form of cheating but not on the same level. One is actually breaking a covenant and joining with one or more fleshs when they sleep around with another person. They also can bring sexual disease and cause jealousy and murder by the other party. The chances of a marriage being destroyed is greater if they do cheat physically, too. Yes, both are evil and wrong. Yes, both are types of forms of cheating. But they are not on the same level of sins, though. One sin is greater than the other.
 
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Sophia

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No, the word "adultery" is usually connected with "cheating" in the Bible.

KJV Search Results for "adultery"
Just went through the whole list. Adultery is never connected to cheating. That is a modern English idea.
The modern idea of "cheating" is not in the Bible.

Adultery is. Fornication is. But it's not "cheating" in the context of relationships or marriage.
Who is cheated out of deserved gain when someone commits adultery?
It's just not a helpful way of approaching the topic by using the word.

Do you see what I'm saying?
 
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atwhatcost

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Anything a man has to deny or hide from his wife is sin and is cheating.

Anything a man can do without conviction or guilt he should be able to discuss with his wife; and anything that causes his wife to be upset is something he ought not be doing for no other reason than that it upsets her.

My wife knows that she is at liberty to look over my shoulder or read on another computer anything I post or do online; and anything I am ashamed to show her and discuss with her; I have no business considering, much less doing.
So it's not sin, if the wife does't mind?
 
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Just went through the whole list. Adultery is never connected to cheating. That is a modern English idea.
The modern idea of "cheating" is not in the Bible.

Adultery is. Fornication is. But it's not "cheating" in the context of relationships or marriage.
Who is cheated out of deserved gain when someone commits adultery?
It's just not a helpful way of approaching the topic by using the word.

Do you see what I'm saying?
No. I do not see what you are saying. I see that word used very clearly in context to unfaithfulness.
 
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cmarieh

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That is great to hear, and all praise to God for keeping them together for so long by keeping their love for one another strong.
Amen. Sometimes it gets a little embarrassing when they are lovey dovey with each other, but I have been blessed with such great examples of what a Godly marriage is and made me know what I want and don't want in a marriage and that is to have God at the center and to be accountable to both God and each other. And I know what I can do to embarrass my kids when that time comes:eek: Lol
 
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After my parents married my mom gave her heart to Christ and my dad was right there with her and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt they have repented for that part of their life. They are still married and have been married going on 24 years next month.
That is good news indeed. Praise be unto the Lord.
 
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Sirk

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I thought someone said that porn was eating.
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MarcR

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Just went through the whole list. Adultery is never connected to cheating. That is a modern English idea.
The modern idea of "cheating" is not in the Bible.

Adultery is. Fornication is. But it's not "cheating" in the context of relationships or marriage.
Who is cheated out of deserved gain when someone commits adultery?
It's just not a helpful way of approaching the topic by using the word.

Do you see what I'm saying?

Sophia,

While it is not used this way in formal English; I believe that the sense of cheating here is marital infidelity; which equates or nearly equates to adultery, IMO.
 
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Sophia

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Having sexual relations before marriage is a sin, however did you know that the bible does not actually say people can not live together before marriage?

That was started by man and not what God said in the scriptures.
If a man and woman can live under the same roof and administer good self control to not have sex before they marry, then they are not sinning or living in a ungodly way.
The reason people made living together before marriage wrong is because it can lead to giving into temptation easier, and cause a person to stumble. Techniqually the bible does not condemn it though.

Another question must be answered is what is marriage?
It is a union between a man and woman put together by God, and it wasn't tell Moses that a certificate was issued for both marriage and divorce. Before there was no going before a judge or preacher to be pronounced man and wife, and then sign a certificate of proof.
We do now have that certificate by law, and that law does not contradict Gods, therefore in order to be legally married the marriage certificate/license needs to be done......
I agree with you. Marriage is a religious/spiritual binding, made by God, NOT MAN.
No government or institution can officiate a marriage. Only God can do that.
"What God has put together, let no man separate".

I would never advise someone to go against the common Christian culture of ceremonial/legal marriage, but the point is that it is not the institution that binds the two into one, it is just a public recognition of what God is already doing.
 
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The only point I want to make is that porn sites use women that are commonly in desperate situations. Some are in slavery. I don't know about a lot of the things you talk about but one thing I'm sure of is that pornography is an abuse of women
 
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Sophia

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Sophia,

While it is not used this way in formal English; I believe that the sense of cheating here is marital infidelity; which equates or nearly equates to adultery, IMO.
I'll concede on the point, because it is a mere disagreement over terms. I still prefer to call it what it is, rather than "cheating" which reminds me of greed rather than lust... but sin is sin, so in this we can agree regardless of terms.
 
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atwhatcost

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Think about your motive. Jesus said that a man who looks at another woman with lust has committed adultery so let me ask you: Is porn a sin? I believe quite clearly it is because you are looking among many woman with lust and desire of the flesh. Secondly: Is it cheating? Well if you are watching it for pleasure and clearly thinking about the act then yes it is cheating. Good info on this is at fightthenewdrug.org
I can assure you I have never checked out porn of women. lol

I don't even check out porn.
 
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ctc1989

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Let's be real...

Is porn cheating?? I don't know

is watching porn wrong?? Absolutely

Many young women move to the "big city" thinking their going to be a huge star there. Their absolutely naive to the fact that there are predators out there that will take advantage of them in a micro second. These scumbags tell them anything to gain their trust, and take advantage of them by putting them on film. Many of these "young women" are just kids, literally just out of high school. How would it make you feel if your son or daughter (it's not just women) were to be "tricked" into doing a porn scene? I have attempted to stop watching porn completely after knowing a friend who was taken advantage of by a slick talking snake oil salesman. she became suicidal and has never been the same since. In the moment she thought it was worth the money, but immediately after she regretted it immensely. It makes people feel inhuman, and that should be enough to make people stop watching it. I never judge them, who knows what's going on in their world that would make them feel as though the only way to support themselves was to get into this. 99.99% of people who attempt to become stars in Hollywood fail. and what do they do when their dreams are crushed?? They resort to the porn industry out of desperation to make money or as their last shot at fame.

like every single person, I have moments of weakness, but anytime I feel like searching the internet I just remember what the women have to go through emotionally and spiritually and it stops me in my tracks. If my not watching it and preaching against it does 1 iota of good then it's worth the time and effort. No one should ever have to go through that type of pain so that someone can have a few moments of pleasure. It's not the fact that porn involves sex, it's the fact that porn ruins lives, not necessarily the person watching porn, but the women that are taken advantage of in the making of the film.

In today's culture it's more and more common to meet a young woman that was involved in something like this, and you can see first hand what toll it takes on them. I think this effects the younger generations more directly, people my age and younger usually come to find out that someone we know was "involved" at some point, and it's usually someone you would never expect. It's such a sad subject that should probrably have a much longer debate.
 

Dan58

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If your not married and watch porn, who exactly are you cheating on? Cheating is an action, its when a married person commits adultery. Otherwise, I think its just lust, a desire that should not be in your heart if your married (except for your spouse). Jesus said "That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart" (Matthew 5:28)
. This expounded on the commandment; "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife" (Exodus 20:17). But how do you commit adultery if your single and the person you lust for is single? King David lusted for Bathsheba, which lead to adultery, this is why a married person should not be looking at naked women. By the same token, I imagine a single person looking at naked woman could lead to fornication. I suspect that a single person lusting for another single person is just normal attraction? Its in our genes and without it, none of us would probably be here. I better stop now, I'm starting to confuse myself :)
 
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atwhatcost

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As Kenneth pointed out there are many unbelieving sinful couples who are faithful to each other who use porn to spice up their sex life. Granted, this use of porn is still a sin and it is wrong. Now, I disagree with him that all porn is a form of cheating. Jesus said looking upon a woman in lust is commiting adultery with them in their heart. But if a couple is sinfully doing so together it is a sin that is a lot more mild (In it's form of cheating). It is more of a form of sinful fantasy that is inappropriate but it does not mean one is going to leave their wife because of it, though. That is kind of the point. The sin of porn is still very destructive and can even end relationships in some cases, but nowhere near the case of those who actually cheat on their spouse with another flesh and blood human being, though. That is stepping over the line. Breaking a covenant.
Actually, Kenneth never said if the couples were believers or not.
 
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atwhatcost

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So you think it will cause sexual disease, cause the couples to think they are actually going to leave them, and create a covenant whereby they are becoming one flesh with another because of it? Yes, they are both adultery, but they are not on the same level with each other. Yes, I realize some women do think it is the same, but their thoughts are not what defines reality. One has to ignore a whole bunch of things to make them the same type of sin.
If worrying about STDs is the only concern a spouse has with actual cheating, something is seriously wrong with the marriage to begin with.

I am saying there are Christian wives on this site, right now, today, considering leaving their husbands because the husband is into porn. I'm thinking that's as real as it gets, even if you think it doesn't define reality.
 
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atwhatcost

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I can agree that this is something we can all learn from. I believe porn is something that is really serious and concerning especially if one spouse does it without the other one's approval. I mean it is completely wrong all together. If you look at drug or alcohol addicts what is one thing they have in common? They tend to hide and cover up their problem and that is a huge red flag that something is seriously wrong. I fully agree with Jason, except for a couple minor points, however the differences could be that he has lived longer and has more wisdom on this subject than I do.
As I said in the Ladies forum, hubby does look at porn, (or did. Honestly, we haven't talked about it in a while, so I don't know if he still does.) It doesn't bother me. Not my thing, but it doesn't bother me, because his heart is always for me.

We have something most couples don't have -- a 100% guarantee that our spouse will never cheat on us. He won't because of the pain he lives with from an ex who did it to him twice. Me? Simply because, "Ew, that's gross!" along with I could never hurt him like she hurt him. He's too sweet and loves me deeply.

I know it's sin. He knows it's sin, but if we judge each other over any sin, we wouldn't have made it past our wedding. God's law boils down to love God fully and love others fully, so the second we love self fully, we sin. It's been decades since our wedding, but I am absolutely sure I had selfish thoughts of one kind or another during the wedding. The only one I do remember is when Dad and I stood at the back of the church and everyone stood up and looked at me. I didn't want to be the center of attention so badly, that was the moment I realized we should have eloped.

That thought was sin because it wasn't loving to our family and friends.

So, he sins. I knew that before I married him, but still loved him and still do. He accepts me, sins and all, as I accept him, sins and all.

Probably why it's hard for me to imagine most women won't accept this sin. Also, why I was curious what others think in front of opened doors. (The Ladies forum feels like it's behind closed doors. lol)