Is Roman Catholicism Evil?
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According how we understand the days it would be monday morning but according how they understand the days it is sunday morning when they left.
To them the day started at sunset which is accordance with the Bible cause it says in Genesis 1 "the evening and the morning were the first day and 2nd day and so on, which means Acts 20:7 when it says evening of the first day is saturday night.
So that means they met for Sabbath and the meeting went into saturday night and they left on sunday morning
To them the day started at sunset which is accordance with the Bible cause it says in Genesis 1 "the evening and the morning were the first day and 2nd day and so on, which means Acts 20:7 when it says evening of the first day is saturday night.
So that means they met for Sabbath and the meeting went into saturday night and they left on sunday morning
Nope, you've missed the point of the verse. Antioch happened to be the place where the disciples were first called Christians (Acts 11:26), but the place itself wasn't significant. They knew better than to label themselves "Eastern Orthodox," as I do (1 Corinthians 1:10), which is why they were called Christians (which indicates that they were followers of Christ).
Dude, the church they established there, still stands. We call it Eastern Orthodox today, because we are Western English speakers, and come mainly from a Protestant background.
So in other words, you see yourself above all the denominations, about all the rest of the Christians, and you feel it's your place to make statements of possible 'evilness'?
Wow, good thing you are above all the denominations and can't be called evil yourself!!!
So in other words, you see yourself above all the denominations, about all the rest of the Christians, and you feel it's your place to make statements of possible 'evilness'?
Wow, good thing you are above all the denominations and can't be called evil yourself!!!
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I call myself this and I follow that and he is better than him and my demoniation is righeous and yours is evil. What a lot of garbage.
"For you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men? For when one says, 'I am of Paul,' and another, 'I am of Apollos,' are you not carnal" (1 Corinthians:3-4)?
"For you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men? For when one says, 'I am of Paul,' and another, 'I am of Apollos,' are you not carnal" (1 Corinthians:3-4)?
At the time described in Acts 11:26, they weren't called Eastern Orthodox. How do we know this? Because it tells us what they were called. They "were ... called Christians" (Acts 11:26).
Whatever may or may not have happened at later times and in later generations ("the tradition of men," Colossians 2:8) isn't relevant to the truth, which is found in the Bible. "Beware lest anyone cheat you through the tradition of men ... and not according to Christ" (the Bible) (Colossians 2:8).
8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. (Colossians 2:8)
Denominations, by their very definition, exist in opposition to the teaching of the Bible ("the doctrine of Christ," 2 John 9).
10 Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. (1 Corinthians 1:10)
On the contrary, it's not all of the rest who are in denominations, for there are a few (Matthew 7:13-14) of us who believe God (Romans 4:3) about what He says, and therefore do not associate ourselves with denominations and other sources of division (1 Corinthians 1:10).
13 "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. (Matthew 7:13-14)
3 For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." (Romans 4:3)
No, it's a requirement of the Christian faith. (And anything contrary to the revealed will of God in the Bible is evil, by definition. If that's not how you define evil, I'm not sure how it could possibly be defined at all.)
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. (Ephesians 5:11)
24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, (2 Timothy 2:24-25)
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, (2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. (Jude 3)
Warning others about false teaching or false doctrine is love, because it is love for the truth (2 Thessalonians 2:10). A person who "sees the wolf coming" and doesn't warn others, but "leaves the sheep and flees" so that "the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them" is what the Bible calls "a hireling."
12 But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. (John 10:12)
I was evil before I came "to the knowledge of the truth" (1 Timothy 2:4), as were all men (Psalm 14:1-3; Romans 3:10-12) and even now I do not have any righteousness of my own, but that which is from God by faith (Philippians 3:8-9; Romans 3:22).
8 Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; (Philippians 3:8-9)
22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; (Romans 3:22)
Whatever may or may not have happened at later times and in later generations ("the tradition of men," Colossians 2:8) isn't relevant to the truth, which is found in the Bible. "Beware lest anyone cheat you through the tradition of men ... and not according to Christ" (the Bible) (Colossians 2:8).
8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. (Colossians 2:8)
Denominations, by their very definition, exist in opposition to the teaching of the Bible ("the doctrine of Christ," 2 John 9).
10 Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. (1 Corinthians 1:10)
On the contrary, it's not all of the rest who are in denominations, for there are a few (Matthew 7:13-14) of us who believe God (Romans 4:3) about what He says, and therefore do not associate ourselves with denominations and other sources of division (1 Corinthians 1:10).
13 "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. (Matthew 7:13-14)
3 For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." (Romans 4:3)
No, it's a requirement of the Christian faith. (And anything contrary to the revealed will of God in the Bible is evil, by definition. If that's not how you define evil, I'm not sure how it could possibly be defined at all.)
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. (Ephesians 5:11)
24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, (2 Timothy 2:24-25)
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, (2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. (Jude 3)
Warning others about false teaching or false doctrine is love, because it is love for the truth (2 Thessalonians 2:10). A person who "sees the wolf coming" and doesn't warn others, but "leaves the sheep and flees" so that "the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them" is what the Bible calls "a hireling."
12 But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. (John 10:12)
I was evil before I came "to the knowledge of the truth" (1 Timothy 2:4), as were all men (Psalm 14:1-3; Romans 3:10-12) and even now I do not have any righteousness of my own, but that which is from God by faith (Philippians 3:8-9; Romans 3:22).
8 Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; (Philippians 3:8-9)
22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; (Romans 3:22)
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Actually he could technically be a Maronite Catholic as well since they have had their own Patriarch in Antioch since the great schism when the Maronites decided to remain loyal the the See of Rome. But as for trustinthename's comment, they wouldn't have any reason to label themselves Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, or Catholic because the Church had not yet split at this time. At this time they didn't even have the gospels or the letters of Paul to go by; everything would have been passed down via word of mouth (tradition hint hint).
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Friend, are you paying attention to the words? You may ignore what I say, but I posted scripture. Will you ignore that as well?
The scripture says that we ALL have ONE Father. Regardless of what you or I may know or think we know about the Bible, how could you ignore this beautiful verse? Jesus is the TRUE bread of life do we agree?
Now I will post these verses again and may God open your eyes to the truth.
Ephesians 4:4-7
4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 7But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
Everyone gets a measure of bread. Again, we as a people CONTINUE only to devour o quoting verses condemning eachother.
When a miracle of some sort is performed in the name of Allah or Buddha, who do you believe is behind it?
Do you believe that the Bible is the perfect word of God and does not contradict itself?
If so, as most believe this, then how do you see these as?
Ecclesiastes 7:16-17
16Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself ? 17Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: why shouldest thou die before thy time?
1 John 3:8-9
8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1 John 1:8
8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
The Bible says to be not over much righteousness OR much wickedness. It says that ANYONE who commits sin is OF THE DEVIL. It also states that those who are born of God COMMITS NO SIN.
How can we be righteous and wicked at the same time? We all have sinned, so are we all of the devil? And how is it possible for those that are born of God to not only commit any sin, but CANNOT sin if all have sinned?
I don't want anyone to think that I am trying to yell my point when I use bigger fonts, I only use them to try to focus the reader on my reasoning. But no matter what you take from this, whether you read it or not; take it to heart or be stiff necked, again I say this.
1 Corinthians 8:1-2
1Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
2And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.
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Yes, the saints are alive, yet prayer is reserved for God only because He's the only one who deserves it from us and can respond with the Holy Spirit. Being the mother of a king does not make someone a queen. God gave her Jesus, He was trust upon her. Jesus is God's creation not of the doing of Mary. Mary was chosen like the rest of us to the eternal Kingdom. She is not in her own right anything more than a very blessed woman, and saint of God.
I've never heard of that. Could you give me the reference to that?
I've never heard of that. Could you give me the reference to that?
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Well said. Why bother insisting on a bunch of "5 solas" and "sola Scriptura", when all we need to know as a summary of the Gospel of the Scriptures is summarized by the Creed of the Church of 381 AD, which did not have the words "and the Son" (Filioque)? Believe in this Nicene Creed and do according to as God leads you and He will give you more light.
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What is the official color of catholics. The pope wears all white drives in a white car white plane. Compare roman catholic to the rider of the white horse of the four horseman of the apocalypse, any similarities. There will be an antichrist and false prophet. What religious leader does the world know and listen to. The pope. In my opinion it is full of idolitry. Praying directly to a statue of jesus or mary. Mary was 100% human. No divinity. Jesus was the one and only without sin. Not to say that the pope now ain't ok, but he is a man that can be vexed and influenced by satan just like anyone else. I got nothing against catholics but the high priests in jesus day were considered the only authority on the law and god and they crusified jesus themselves. Do not take me wrong, you are a brother in christ, catholics have made positive changes in their doctrine. Just keep a relationship with jesus 1st not organized religion.
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the antichrist will teach immoraiity and lead people to deny the master who saved them. The current pope teaches agianst sexual sin and wrote two books deeply outlining the master's life and work. The are titled Jesus of Nazereth.
The catholic church is the same as it has always been, a church of apostles and martyrs. in Christ Jesus
The catholic church is the same as it has always been, a church of apostles and martyrs. in Christ Jesus
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[FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]One day a man picked up Peter Geiermann's Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine and read the following on page 50:[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]Q. Which is the Sabbath day?[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]
A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]
The man was dumbfounded and supposed there must be some mistake so he wrote a letter to the then famous James Cardinal Gibbons of Baltimore, and asked if the Catholic church did, indeed, change the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday. The Cardinal replied, "Of course, the Catholic church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters."
[/FONT][FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]Daniel 7:25
(25) And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]Q. Which is the Sabbath day?[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]
A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]
The man was dumbfounded and supposed there must be some mistake so he wrote a letter to the then famous James Cardinal Gibbons of Baltimore, and asked if the Catholic church did, indeed, change the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday. The Cardinal replied, "Of course, the Catholic church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters."
[/FONT][FONT=Comic Sans MS,Comic Sans,Times New Roman]Daniel 7:25
(25) And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.[/FONT]
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You are aware that there are several different meanings of the word "prayer" in the English language right?
Prayer at it's most basic definition means to ask. You'll see it used that way in Shakespeare quite a bit. "I pray thee..." "Pray tell, what is the matter...."
When Catholics "pray" to the saints, they are using the word "prayer" in the sense that we are asking them something. They are not divine, and are not thought of as such. In fact, in Catholic theology, there's several distinct types of prayer. Latria is the latin term for the type of prayer that is ONLY offered to God. Dulia is the type of prayer for the saints and is the same type of usage as when I say "I pray you my friend..." And there's Hyper-dulia, which is used for the Blessed Virgin, in recognition of her unique role in God's plan.
As far as Mary not being a queen, as the mother of the King, she has the honour of being called a queen. Have you never heard of the term "queen mother"? We see in Scriptures that King Solomon's mother was accorded great honour and given a throne at her son's side. Why then is it suddenly sinful when the King of Kings honours His mother similarly?
One thing that is always emphasized to us Catholics is that the Theotokos only gets her honour from the fact of who her son is. Just as the moon's brightness is only because of the sun's rays, so too the honour of the Virgin Mary. Her honour comes from one source, her son, Jesus.
[/quote] I've never heard of that. Could you give me the reference to that?[/QUOTE]
There's a plethora of examples, but the most obvious one is, "stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thess. 2:15).
*emphasis mine*
For more examples I'd check out this link: Oral Tradition
and also this one: Scripture and Tradition
Prayer at it's most basic definition means to ask. You'll see it used that way in Shakespeare quite a bit. "I pray thee..." "Pray tell, what is the matter...."
When Catholics "pray" to the saints, they are using the word "prayer" in the sense that we are asking them something. They are not divine, and are not thought of as such. In fact, in Catholic theology, there's several distinct types of prayer. Latria is the latin term for the type of prayer that is ONLY offered to God. Dulia is the type of prayer for the saints and is the same type of usage as when I say "I pray you my friend..." And there's Hyper-dulia, which is used for the Blessed Virgin, in recognition of her unique role in God's plan.
As far as Mary not being a queen, as the mother of the King, she has the honour of being called a queen. Have you never heard of the term "queen mother"? We see in Scriptures that King Solomon's mother was accorded great honour and given a throne at her son's side. Why then is it suddenly sinful when the King of Kings honours His mother similarly?
One thing that is always emphasized to us Catholics is that the Theotokos only gets her honour from the fact of who her son is. Just as the moon's brightness is only because of the sun's rays, so too the honour of the Virgin Mary. Her honour comes from one source, her son, Jesus.
[/quote] I've never heard of that. Could you give me the reference to that?[/QUOTE]
There's a plethora of examples, but the most obvious one is, "stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thess. 2:15).
*emphasis mine*
For more examples I'd check out this link: Oral Tradition
and also this one: Scripture and Tradition
We can see the early Christians themselves started to worship on Sunday even in the Scriptures themselves. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, Colossians 2:16-17, and Revelation 1:10 indicate that, even during New Testament times, the Sabbath is no longer binding and that Christians are to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, instead.
Not only that, we have the testimony of the Early Christian Church itself. We have records dating back as far as 70ad (within the lifetime of some of the apostles themselves) that directly mentions worshiping on Sunday (the Lord's day).
Christ Himself gave the apostles the authority to bind and loose things on Earth, assuring them that what they bound on Earth would be bound in Heaven and vice-versa. Are you saying that Our Lord was mistaken somehow when He gave the Apostles this authority? Are you saying that when the Apostles taught the Early Church to worship Our Lord on the day of His resurrection, that God broke His promise to bind or loose what they taught?
Not only that, we have the testimony of the Early Christian Church itself. We have records dating back as far as 70ad (within the lifetime of some of the apostles themselves) that directly mentions worshiping on Sunday (the Lord's day).
Christ Himself gave the apostles the authority to bind and loose things on Earth, assuring them that what they bound on Earth would be bound in Heaven and vice-versa. Are you saying that Our Lord was mistaken somehow when He gave the Apostles this authority? Are you saying that when the Apostles taught the Early Church to worship Our Lord on the day of His resurrection, that God broke His promise to bind or loose what they taught?
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Acts 20:7
(7) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
Genesis 1:5
(5) And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
According to the Bible the day starts at sunset so that means midnight on the first day of the week is Saturday night and they left on Sunday morning
Acts 20:11
(11) When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.
1 Corinthians 16:2 does not say they kept the first day of the week as the sabbath
1 Corinthians 16:1-2
(1) Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
(2) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
Colossians 2:14-17 is talking about the ordinances not about the 10 commandments Jesus put an end to the sacrifices cause they pointed to Him. Also the 7 feast days that Israel had were called sabbath days.
Colossians 2:14-17
(14) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
(15) And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
(16) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
(17) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Leviticus 23:23-25
(23) And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
(24) Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
(25) Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Also Colossians talks about eating and drinking the sabbath command had nothing to do with eating and drinking only the feast days did.
Acts 15:1
(1) And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
There was a dispute in the early church over the ceremonial laws but Paul said we do not have to keep those laws anymore.
As for Revelation 1:10
Revelation 1:10
(10) I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Matthew 12:8
(8) For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
(7) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
Genesis 1:5
(5) And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
According to the Bible the day starts at sunset so that means midnight on the first day of the week is Saturday night and they left on Sunday morning
Acts 20:11
(11) When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.
1 Corinthians 16:2 does not say they kept the first day of the week as the sabbath
1 Corinthians 16:1-2
(1) Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
(2) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
Colossians 2:14-17 is talking about the ordinances not about the 10 commandments Jesus put an end to the sacrifices cause they pointed to Him. Also the 7 feast days that Israel had were called sabbath days.
Colossians 2:14-17
(14) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
(15) And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
(16) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
(17) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Leviticus 23:23-25
(23) And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
(24) Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
(25) Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Also Colossians talks about eating and drinking the sabbath command had nothing to do with eating and drinking only the feast days did.
Acts 15:1
(1) And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
There was a dispute in the early church over the ceremonial laws but Paul said we do not have to keep those laws anymore.
As for Revelation 1:10
Revelation 1:10
(10) I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Matthew 12:8
(8) For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
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this is a great post Vlad.
its such a blessing to the heart when Jesus says, while still in His primary mission of seeking the Lost Sheep of israel, that He has OTHER SHEEP HE MUST BRING ALSO....the gentiles!
Love You Jesus!
the virgins are a good illustration of receiving the holy Spirit and being raised from death to life (the new birth)...notice they were "sleeping". and near the end, some ROSE and prepared to meet the bridgrrom...while others did not 'have enough" oil, they were never saved.
its sad that this parable is mishandled to mean two kinds of Christians when it is the same thing we see through out Scripture: those who will live in eternity, and those who will go into perdition.
love your posts Vlad.
zone.
its such a blessing to the heart when Jesus says, while still in His primary mission of seeking the Lost Sheep of israel, that He has OTHER SHEEP HE MUST BRING ALSO....the gentiles!
Love You Jesus!
the virgins are a good illustration of receiving the holy Spirit and being raised from death to life (the new birth)...notice they were "sleeping". and near the end, some ROSE and prepared to meet the bridgrrom...while others did not 'have enough" oil, they were never saved.
its sad that this parable is mishandled to mean two kinds of Christians when it is the same thing we see through out Scripture: those who will live in eternity, and those who will go into perdition.
love your posts Vlad.
zone.