Is the Devil bound right now...?

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Is Satan bound right now?


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Cassian

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Sorry, but your response is laughable. You just don't want to look into something you don't want to believe in the first place. So go argue with someone else. I won't argue with you.
Which is quite ironic when one reads the likes of Lindsey and especially Impe.
There are always many who will fall for the false teachings of men. It is quite apparent you have no evidence and need to resort to nonsubstantive comments.

I don't believe because I did read all that nonsense 20 an 30 years ago and the most recent of them have just made the theory more ridiculous. Furthermore it has never been the teaching of scripture for 2000 years. These characters starting with Miller up to the present aren't any different than the likes of Smith, Russell or Van Summers who all claim they received new revelation.
 

prove-all

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Today many of the practices and symbols
associated with Christmas and Easter, for example, can
be traced back to ancient Babylon. (For proof, read Alexander
Hislop’s book The Two Babylons, available in bookstores.)

The doctrines of the immortal soul and mother-child worship—
to name only two Catholic teachings—can be traced
directly back to Nimrod and Babylon.


“Semiramis was actually the founder of much of the world’s
pagan religions, worshiping false gods,”

Many mainstream symbols and holidays,even Christian doctrines
and practices, still in common use today can be traced back to
the Babylonian mystery religion.

Christmas and the Christmas tree, Easter, Sunday worship,
the trinity, the “sacred” mother-child relationship—these
beliefs and practices are all rooted in ancient Babylon.

The Bible is clear that the name Babylon is synonymous with
Nimrod, his act of rebellion, and his post-Flood establishment
of the Babylonian mystery religion

In the late eighth century b.c., God punished the Israelites
by having the Assyrians, a cruel and war-loving people from
the region of Mesopotamia, invade Samaria. “Then the king
of Assyria came up throughout all the land, and went up to
Samaria, and besieged it three years” (verse 5).

This besiegement and invasion occurred between 721 and 718 b.c.
 
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Romans: 2. 28. For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

:whistle: This why we must learn from what is written
So that we may not speak out our selves :rofl:

:rofl: And we my partner were not even a Jew . ... And that's for real :whistle:
Maybe the one youve heard before was him who is from . ...

:ty:
 

prove-all

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“In the ninth year of Hoshea the king of Assyria took Samaria, and carried Israel
away into Assyria …”(verse 6). The Israelites were picked up and relocated


The Bible records that “the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon,
and from Cuthah [near Babylon] … and placed them in the cities of Samaria
instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof”.
This explains the perpetuation of Nimrod’s Babylonian mystery religion.

At this moment, around 718 b.c., tens of thousands of
Babylonians, perhaps more—people steeped in the teachings
and practices of Nimrod’s Babylonian mystery religion—were
planted in the region of Samaria. The Babylonians and the false
religion of Nimrod and Semiramis became entrenched there.

It was in Samaria, roughly 750 years after this transplant,
that the Catholic Church was formally created. And, as we
might expect, this history too was recorded in the Bible.

Isn’t it interesting that Simon Magus attempted to purchase
a spiritual favor from God? Can you think of an institution
that grew incredibly wealthy by selling spiritual favors?


Instead of simply rejecting Simon and his money and moving to the next convert,
Peter took the time to deliver a strong prophetic warning to Simon Magus.

“Repent therefore of this thy wickedness …” he stated.
“For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness,
and in the bond of iniquity” (Acts 8:22-23). Bitterness means
extreme wickedness, bitter hatred, or the capability to produce bitter fruit.

Remember, Simon Magus was already a powerful religious
leader in Samaria. He was rooted in the practices and teachings
of the Babylonian mystery religion, under demonic influence,
and a master at deceiving people.

Peter was cognizant of Simon’s abilities, as well as his extreme vanity
and ambition, and knew he was capable of producing bitter fruit.
Peter knew this man was a threat to the true Church.

Lange’s Commentary explains, “Peter’s words, literally,
mean: ‘I regard you as a man whose influence will be like that
of bitter gall [poison] and a bond of unrighteousness [lawlessness],
or, as a man who has reached such a state.’”

“Peter’s rebuke of Simon was a grave prophetic warning.
… Acts 8:23 contains the seed of the prophecy in Revelation 17
about what that false church does on this Earth!”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simony
Simony (pron. ['sa?.m?.ni] or ['s?.m?.ni]) is the act of selling church offices and roles. The practice is named after Simon Magus,[1] who is described in the Acts of the Apostles 8:9–24 as having offered two disciples of Jesus, Peter and John, payment in exchange for their empowering him to impart the power of the Holy Spirit to anyone on whom he would place his hands. The term also extends to other forms of trafficking for money in "spiritual things".[2][3]
Simony was also one of the important issues during the Investiture Controversy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investiture_Controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_Roman_Empire

Here is what the New Lexicon Webster’s Dictionary of the
English Language states about Simon Magus: “Rebuked by
Peter, he begged him to intercede with God on his behalf, and
appears no more in Acts. Later literature showed him reappearing
in Rome in the time of Claudius in a new movement of
his own, curiously combining Christian and pagan elements,
and in which he figured as God.” That is a powerful quote
from Webster’s, a secular source.

This truth will surely come as a surprise to most readers:
Mainstream Christianity today—which grew either directly or
indirectly out of Catholicism—is an outgrowth of the religion of
Simon Magus.
 
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:rofl: Did we forgot to tell this that :whistle:
WE HAVE NO RELIGION LIKE THOSE "RELIGIONS" DURING THIS PRESENT TIMES OF OURS :happy:


 
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KennethC

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“In the ninth year of Hoshea the king of Assyria took Samaria, and carried Israel
away into Assyria …”(verse 6). The Israelites were picked up and relocated


The Bible records that “the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon,
and from Cuthah [near Babylon] … and placed them in the cities of Samaria
instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof”.
This explains the perpetuation of Nimrod’s Babylonian mystery religion.

At this moment, around 718 b.c., tens of thousands of
Babylonians, perhaps more—people steeped in the teachings
and practices of Nimrod’s Babylonian mystery religion—were
planted in the region of Samaria. The Babylonians and the false
religion of Nimrod and Semiramis became entrenched there.

It was in Samaria, roughly 750 years after this transplant,
that the Catholic Church was formally created. And, as we
might expect, this history too was recorded in the Bible.

Isn’t it interesting that Simon Magus attempted to purchase
a spiritual favor from God? Can you think of an institution
that grew incredibly wealthy by selling spiritual favors?


Instead of simply rejecting Simon and his money and moving to the next convert,
Peter took the time to deliver a strong prophetic warning to Simon Magus.

“Repent therefore of this thy wickedness …” he stated.
“For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness,
and in the bond of iniquity” (Acts 8:22-23). Bitterness means
extreme wickedness, bitter hatred, or the capability to produce bitter fruit.

Remember, Simon Magus was already a powerful religious
leader in Samaria. He was rooted in the practices and teachings
of the Babylonian mystery religion, under demonic influence,
and a master at deceiving people.

Peter was cognizant of Simon’s abilities, as well as his extreme vanity
and ambition, and knew he was capable of producing bitter fruit.
Peter knew this man was a threat to the true Church.

Lange’s Commentary explains, “Peter’s words, literally,
mean: ‘I regard you as a man whose influence will be like that
of bitter gall [poison] and a bond of unrighteousness [lawlessness],
or, as a man who has reached such a state.’”

“Peter’s rebuke of Simon was a grave prophetic warning.
… Acts 8:23 contains the seed of the prophecy in Revelation 17
about what that false church does on this Earth!”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simony
Simony (pron. ['sa?.m?.ni] or ['s?.m?.ni]) is the act of selling church offices and roles. The practice is named after Simon Magus,[1] who is described in the Acts of the Apostles 8:9–24 as having offered two disciples of Jesus, Peter and John, payment in exchange for their empowering him to impart the power of the Holy Spirit to anyone on whom he would place his hands. The term also extends to other forms of trafficking for money in "spiritual things".[2][3]
Simony was also one of the important issues during the Investiture Controversy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investiture_Controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_Roman_Empire

Here is what the New Lexicon Webster’s Dictionary of the
English Language states about Simon Magus: “Rebuked by
Peter, he begged him to intercede with God on his behalf, and
appears no more in Acts. Later literature showed him reappearing
in Rome in the time of Claudius in a new movement of
his own, curiously combining Christian and pagan elements,
and in which he figured as God.” That is a powerful quote
from Webster’s, a secular source.

This truth will surely come as a surprise to most readers:
Mainstream Christianity today—which grew either directly or
indirectly out of Catholicism—is an outgrowth of the religion of
Simon Magus.

The term catholic was not used or heard of tell the 2nd century (101-200 A.D.), and it being used as a denominational term was not tell the 4th century (301-400 A.D.).

When it was first introduced in the 2nd century it only carried a universal meaning that anybody no matter what nationality can become believers and followers of Jesus Christ.

Before Catholicism was even heard of the term Christians was already being used !!!
 
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:rofl: And he was diving like a 1942 fighter plane
And even Nero himself waited for him to emerged from his graveyard after he was
Been buried because of that "plane crush" :whistle:

:smoke: Perhaps one of our brethrens :hmm: and fellows :think:
could give some info about that . ...

:ty:
 

prove-all

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LOL you are simply closing your eyes to the FACTS, In John's day it was the JEWS who were the synagogue of Satan because of what they did against Christians. Of course it was about Jews from the line of Judah, and especially their scribes
history shows that the roman empire, that wagged war on the jews and christians,

by killing them.
 

wolfwint

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Dear Valliant, as i former wrote. The different hermeneutik and exigetic tools will lead to a different doctrine! If you state that God choosen people has no future. How can you quote Romans 11, 12-24 and ignore the verses 1ff and from Vers 25 on?

you said: "Nowhere in Revelation does it say that Jesus will reign over His chosen folk the Jews. The Jews are a rejected people..."

Correct, it is not mentioned. It is only said in revelation 20,6 that the Lord will reign togehter with those who are partakers of the first ressurection for 1000 years. If you look the whole picture which is given through the OT Prophets then you will find that he will rule from Zion.

But you can see f.e.from Ezekiel chapter 34-36, ore Joel special from 2,18-4,21 and also in already mentioned Romans chapter 11 and also from revelation chapter 7,5 ff where 12000 people from every of the 12 tribes are selectet.
That God has not reject his volk Israel for eternerty. And if you see how god protectet in the past 2000 years his people you can not realy belief that god has reject his volk. This is amazining! I am shure that my own volk has to pay for to kill so many jewish people during Hitlers reign.

You could see, but you believe in a different doctrine, so you will not see. You can believe it, but be careful not to misslead people into a false doctrine.
 
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popeye

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Dear Valliant, as i former wrote. The different hermeneutik and exigetic tools will lead to a different doctrine! If you state that God choosen people has no future. How can you quote Romans 11, 12-24 and ignore the verses 1ff and from Vers 25 on?

you said: "Nowhere in Revelation does it say that Jesus will reign over His chosen folk the Jews. The Jews are a rejected people..."

Correct, it is not mentioned. It is only said in revelation 20,6 that the Lord will reign togehter with those who are partakers of the first ressurection for 1000 years. If you look the whole picture which is given through the OT Prophets then you will find that he will rule from Zion.

But you can see f.e.from Ezekiel chapter 34-36, ore Joel special from 2,18-4,21 and also in already mentioned Romans chapter 11 and also from revelation chapter 7,5 ff where 12000 people from every of the 12 tribes are selectet.
That God has not reject his volk Israel for eternerty. And if you see how god protectet in the past 2000 years his people you can not realy belief that god has reject his volk. This is amazining! I am shure that my own volk has to pay for to kill so many jewish people during Hitlers reign.

You could see, but you believe in a different doctrine, so you will not see. You can believe it, but be careful not to misslead people into a false doctrine.
Well said my friend
 
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popeye

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Which is quite ironic when one reads the likes of Lindsey and especially Impe.
There are always many who will fall for the false teachings of men. It is quite apparent you have no evidence and need to resort to nonsubstantive comments.

I don't believe because I did read all that nonsense 20 an 30 years ago and the most recent of them have just made the theory more ridiculous. Furthermore it has never been the teaching of scripture for 2000 years. These characters starting with Miller up to the present aren't any different than the likes of Smith, Russell or Van Summers who all claim they received new revelation.
.......again we must look to israel becoming a nation. 1947. amil wrecked.

Still a few crafty ones trying to make future events into a tired dusty pretzel
 
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:ty: your :welcome:
Ecclesiastes: 3. 11. He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
12. I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life.
13. And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.
14. I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.
→and even the :devil: itself :rofl:
:scarf: And becaused as the freewill is still there :yawn:
To be used as an instrument of god . ...
As one of our brothers here in CC said before
:hmm: we are not robots puppets or anything that can be controlled :think:
Unless for the sake of all things that were been made good
1 Timothy: 4. 4. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
:takbo: Its better to be a part of something that would lead us to :sisid:
The truth . ...
Revelation: 22. 11. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
`∞` but do remember always †
1 Thessalonians: 5. 21. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
1 Thessalonians: 5. 22. Abstain from all appearance of evil.
23. And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
" in everything we can as we are " for we don't live forever as human beings . ...
As humans are fragile as :glasses: but with heart and soul
Also that what is written
Hebrews: 4. 12. For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
(the naked truth :naughty: oopppps so sorry :-[ about this :8)
:read: the good :news:
Revelation: 1. 3. Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
*for we us those they even others . ....
:whistle: and most of all the unbelievers . . ...
:now: ( knowing and believing were not the same isn't it? :blush)
knows all this thing that the time shall come whenever it maybe . .... :dontknow:

:happy: And it is the best to learn all along from what is written :smoke:
7. Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.



:iloveu:
 

valiant

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Dear Valliant, as i former wrote. The different hermeneutik and exigetic tools will lead to a different doctrine! If you state that God choosen people has no future. How can you quote Romans 11, 12-24 and ignore the verses 1ff and from Vers 25 on?
The one thing above all that stands out about premillennialists is their extreme arrogance, even though their position is based on misrepresenting and manipulating Scripture. God's chosen people as described in Rom 11.1-11 have a future because they are 'the election of grace', the minority, the remnant. Rom 11.12-24 then demonstrate that added to that remnant are the chosen among the Gentiles to form the true Israel along with those who are of the election of grace, with unbelieving Israel being rejected. Rom 11.25 onwards then demonstrate that it is the true Israel of believing Jews and Gentiles, believers in the Messiah, who are the 'all Israel' who will be saved. As you say your exegesis is totally at fault.
 

DP

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.......again we must look to israel becoming a nation. 1947. amil wrecked.

Still a few crafty ones trying to make future events into a tired dusty pretzel
The Hal Lindsay books and John Darby pre-trib rapture tradition is just as ludicrous as the amil position. Pre-mil does not mean all of them are on the pre-trib rapture theory that began from Darby in 1830's Britain.
 
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popeye

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The Hal Lindsay books and John Darby pre-trib rapture tradition is just as ludicrous as the amil position. Pre-mil does not mean all of them are on the pre-trib rapture theory that began from Darby in 1830's Britain.
I can defend the pretrib rapture handily with out those you reference.
I use the KJV and am a former member of an amil fellowship.

There is not one reference to a postrib rapture and anything but premil is a grand canyon ridiculous leap that has scripture twisted so bad it is ludicrous.
 

Angela53510

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.......again we must look to israel becoming a nation. 1947. amil wrecked.

Still a few crafty ones trying to make future events into a tired dusty pretzel

So, did God restore the nation of secular Israel, or did the Ashkenazi Jews? Even the many Orthodox rabbis and scholars do not believe that modern Israel is the restoration of ancient Israel.

I do believe the Jews need a homeland. But I have extreme reservations as to whether this Israel is of God or men!
 
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popeye

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Btw,if we are in the millineum then obviously we need All governments minimized if not removed completely,and jesus doing a lot more amoung earth's inhabitants with believers ruling alongside on a global level.

Now watch this; put on your amil glasses for a moment and look deeply into this verse;

".......as it WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH,SO SHALL IT BE IN THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN....."

Uh,there was nothing but wickedness on the face of the earth.

IT IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY POSSIBLE WE ARE IN THE 1K.
 

Cassian

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.......again we must look to israel becoming a nation. 1947. amil wrecked.

Still a few crafty ones trying to make future events into a tired dusty pretzel
Man does like their favorite theories and it will continue. It will get worse as is exemplified over the last 60 years or so.

As for me I will serve Christ and believe on His Word, not the fantasies of men.
 
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Titus: 3. 7. That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
8. This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

but is the devil bound right now . . ...?
 

wolfwint

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The one thing above all that stands out about premillennialists is their extreme arrogance, even though their position is based on misrepresenting and manipulating Scripture. God's chosen people as described in Rom 11.1-11 have a future because they are 'the election of grace', the minority, the remnant. Rom 11.12-24 then demonstrate that added to that remnant are the chosen among the Gentiles to form the true Israel along with those who are of the election of grace, with unbelieving Israel being rejected. Rom 11.25 onwards then demonstrate that it is the true Israel of believing Jews and Gentiles, believers in the Messiah, who are the 'all Israel' who will be saved. As you say your exegesis is totally at fault.
Well, dear Valliant, the future will reveal. :)