Is the Devil bound right now...?

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Is Satan bound right now?


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Heb 2.14

επει ουν τα παιδια κεκοινωνηκεν αιματος και σαρκος και αυτος παραπλησιως μετεσχεν των αυτων ινα δια του θανατου καταργηση τον το κρατος εχοντα του θανατου τουτ εστιν τον διαβολον

epei oun ta paidia kekoinōnēken haimatos kai sarkos kai autos paraplēsiōs meteschen tōn autōn hina dia tou thanatou katargēsē ton to kratos echonta tou thanatou tout' estin ton diabolon


Since, then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, in like manner He Himself also shared the same things, that through death He might render entirely idlethe one having the power of death, that is, the devil;

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:smoke: even in any different translations
anyone could find the difference between the
words that were been put by human effort in order to
show their most will but not the will of the original author . ...

:happy: and this is not coming from us but
unto one of the apostle of our lord jesus christ
:read:
2 Peter: 3. 15. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16. As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

:rofl: and this what you were trying to do all along my brother
for every holy written scriptures does not depend on one verses only
because it has a verses that corroborates from what it says and
that's why the holy scriptures gives interpretations to itselfs only
without changing words from it . ...
:read:
 
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Heb 2.14

επει ουν τα παιδια κεκοινωνηκεν αιματος και σαρκος και αυτος παραπλησιως μετεσχεν των αυτων ινα δια του θανατου καταργηση τον το κρατος εχοντα του θανατου τουτ εστιν τον διαβολον

epei oun ta paidia kekoinōnēken haimatos kai sarkos kai autos paraplēsiōs meteschen tōn autōn hina dia tou thanatou katargēsē ton to kratos echonta tou thanatou tout' estin ton diabolon


Since, then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, in like manner He Himself also shared the same things, that through death He might render entirely idlethe one having the power of death, that is, the devil;

:jigsaw jigsaw, nuyk nyuk chitty chitty bang bang jiggly puff: smoke
:smoke: even in any different translations
anyone could find the difference between the
words that were been put by human effort in order to
show their most will but not the will of the original author . ...

:happy: and this is not coming from us but
unto one of the apostle of our lord jesus christ
:read:
2 Peter: 3. 15. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16. As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

:rofl: and this what you were trying to do all along my brother
for every holy written scriptures does not depend on one verses only
because it has a verses that corroborates from what it says and
that's why the holy scriptures gives interpretations to itselfs only
without changing words from it . ...
just like you did from before . . ..
so please
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Hebrews: 2. 14. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
~:»IF WE WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO READ
THE
FOLLOWING VERSES SHALL TELL US
WHAT THE AUTHOR IS TRYING TO SAY
ABOUT THE VERSES IN HEBREW 2:14
PLEASE CONTINUE TO
:read:
Hebrew 2:15
15. And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
~:› THE APOSTLE IN GENTILES SAULO ESTE PABLO OR PAUL
WANTS TO TELL US IN HIS WRITTINGS FROM THIS VERSE THAT
OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THAT HE TOOK THE SEED OF ABRAHAM IN ORDER
TO MAKE RECONCILIATION FOR THE SINS OF THE PEOPLE
AND NOT TO BOUND THE DEVIL RIGHT NOW :haha:

:whistle: as the other apostle says
:read:
John: 1. 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2. The same was in the beginning with God.
3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
*
*
*
. ...
14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

:yawn: and by the way my brother
:scarf: could satan be destroyed that he will no longer be existed
from any time anywhere . ...

God bless us all always

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:smoke: even in any different translations
anyone could find the difference between the
words that were been put by human effort in order to
show their most will but not the will of the original author
. ...

:happy: and this is not coming from us but
unto one of the apostle of our lord jesus christ
:read:
2 Peter: 3. 15. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16. As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

:rofl: and this what you were trying to do all along my brother
for every holy written scriptures does not depend on one verses only
because it has a verses that corroborates from what it says and
that's why the holy scriptures gives interpretations to itselfs only
without changing words from it . ...
:read:

That's why I repeatedly show the original languages for people (like yourself) to investigate yourselves.

The original Greek words fully embrace that Satan is bound....ANY lexicon will prove this out....and you will have no choice but to side with me - that Satan was bound at The Cross, and he is currently bound to this very day.

Playing patty-cake with your ignorant friends won't EVER change the cold, hard facts of scripture.



Oh....and.....:smoke green tomatoes, green tomatoes; white smoke, total ownership ;smoke

 
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That's why I repeatedly show the original languages for people (like yourself) to investigate yourselves.

The original Greek words fully embrace that Satan is bound....ANY lexicon will prove this out....and you will have no choice but to side with me - that Satan was bound at The Cross, and he is currently bound to this very day.

Playing patty-cake with your ignorant friends won't EVER change the cold, hard facts of scripture.



Oh....and.....:smoke green tomatoes, green tomatoes; white smoke, total ownership ;smoke

Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.[SUP]12 [/SUP]For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand Eph 6:10-13

In what way would you say the devil is bound now, for scripture testifies the devil schemes to destroy us
 
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Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.[SUP]12 [/SUP]For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand Eph 6:10-13

In what way would you say the devil is bound now, for scripture testifies the devil schemes to destroy us

Eph 6.11 - 16


Put on all the armor of God, for you to be able to stand against the deceit of the Devil, because fighting against flesh and blood is not to us, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of the darkness of this age, against the spiritual powers of evil in the heavenly realms.Because of this, take up all of the armor of God that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having worked out all things, to stand. Then stand firm, "having girded your loins about with Truth" and having put "on the breastplate of righteousness," Isa. 11:5; 59:17and having shod the feet with the preparation of the "gospel of peace." Isa. 52:7Above all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the darts of the evil one being kindled.



Context seals the deal.


The reader is informed that a spiritual battle is going on….NOT between us and The Devil (because he is presently bound), but against the deceit (plural ‘methodeia’) of The Devil.


If this battle was against Satan, himself, then the text would have plainly said so, on a singular basis.Instead, the plural deceit is listed out in plural fashion demonstrating the demonic forces which are roaming free.


This passage ends with the way it started – reiterating that we are NOT in battle with Satan, himself, but the darts (plural ‘belē’), demons, that he is launching at us.



 

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We must remember the verse that says that no one can spoil a strong mans house unless he first binds the strong man and then he will spool his goods. So in some sense Christ has already bond him therefore when God tells is that our suffering produces endurance we should not think that there isn't a purpose to this spiritual war we are in. Peter tells us that the devil roams around seeking whom he may devour but he also tells us how he will flee from us and that is achieved by us keeping ourselves free from the contamination of the world. Therefore if Satan wasn't somehow bound in some way we would never get the opportunity to resist him and he would be devouring us right now.
i understand what you are saying, but just because we are able to make satan flee from us, does not mean satan is bound. If satan were bound, there would be no reason for satan to even come near us to tempt us. satan is is not bound right now, he is free to roam this Earth as he sees fit. If he can tempt me in America and tempt another in Africa, he is not bound, no matter how those who teach that false doctrine will say he is.
Now here is a Truth, satan is bound to the vicinity of the Earth, that is to say, he is not allowed to enter into Heaven ever again. In that sense he is bound. But he is not bound on the Earth, not yet, but one day he will be bound for a thousand years, that is to say, he will not be able to tempt a single person on the Earth, because he is bound.

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i understand what you are saying, but just because we are able to make satan flee from us, does not mean satan is bound. If satan were bound, there would be no reason for satan to even come near us to tempt us. satan is is not bound right now, he is free to roam this Earth as he sees fit. If he can tempt me in America and tempt another in Africa, he is not bound, no matter how those who teach that false doctrine will say he is.
Now here is a Truth, satan is bound to the vicinity of the Earth, that is to say, he is not allowed to enter into Heaven ever again. In that sense he is bound. But he is not bound on the Earth, not yet, but one day he will be bound for a thousand years, that is to say, he will not be able to tempt a single person on the Earth, because he is bound.

^i^ responding to post # 1816

DD...you are a false prophet, as anyone can see for themselves.

Scripture states clearly, and repeatedly, that Satan is bound.

My gerbil knows more scripture than you...
 
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That's why I repeatedly show the original languages for people (like yourself) to investigate yourselves.

The original Greek words fully embrace that Satan is bound....ANY lexicon will prove this out....and you will have no choice but to side with me - that Satan was bound at The Cross, and he is currently bound to this very day.

Playing patty-cake with your ignorant friends won't EVER change the cold, hard facts of scripture.



Oh....and.....:smoke green tomatoes, green tomatoes; white smoke, total ownership ;smoke

:smoke: and last thing we remember is the verses from
Hebrews: 2. 14. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
~:»IF WE WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO READ
THE
FOLLOWING VERSES SHALL TELL US
WHAT THE AUTHOR IS TRYING TO SAY
ABOUT THE VERSES IN HEBREW 2:14
PLEASE CONTINUE TO
:read:
Hebrew 2:15
15. And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
~:› THE APOSTLE IN GENTILES SAULO ESTE PABLO OR PAUL
WANTS TO TELL US IN HIS WRITTINGS FROM THIS VERSE THAT
OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THAT HE TOOK THE SEED OF ABRAHAM IN ORDER
TO MAKE RECONCILIATION FOR THE SINS OF THE PEOPLE
AND NOT TO BOUND THE DEVIL RIGHT NOW :haha:

:whistle: that you've translated unto
your own thinking that's why we show unto you my brother that
if you would only continue to read the following verses then
you should know that your interpretation
has nothing to do with the devil is bound right now :rofl:

: : tha't why we not boast unto our own works
as it is written
:read:

Ephesians: 2. 8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.


God bless us all always


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DD...you are a false prophet, as anyone can see for themselves.

Scripture states clearly, and repeatedly, that Satan is bound.

My gerbil knows more scripture than you...
Possibly the devil us bound now in relation to accusing believers they fail to live good enough lives ( under the law) to be christians, for Christ is their right standing before the father. But he is not bound in regard to trying to lead them astray from the faith, he is not bound in regard to trying to lure them away from the true path and back to the world
 

valiant

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Possibly the devil us bound now in relation to accusing believers they fail to live good enough lives ( under the law) to be christians, for Christ is their right standing before the father. But he is not bound in regard to trying to lead them astray from the faith, he is not bound in regard to trying to lure them away from the true path and back to the world
He is bound in that he is unable to prevent Christ from fulfilling His work on earth (Matt 12.28-29). He is bound in that he is restrained so that he cannot release full lawlessness (2 Thess 2). It is quite simple really.
 
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He is bound in that he is unable to prevent Christ from fulfilling His work on earth (Matt 12.28-29). He is bound in that he is restrained so that he cannot release full lawlessness (2 Thess 2). It is quite simple really.
So satan( who's name in Hebrew I the accuser) isn't bound in regard to not being able to accuse the believer according to their imperfections concerning the law?
 
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2 Thessalonians: 2. 7. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9. Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

:smoke: perhaps if we could consider this verses
we could learn that the evil things which is happening right now
from all the diiferent parts of each nation is coming from
the evil one itself
and this is not satan for according to the scriptures
satan is once an angel and how can a powerful angel can be corrupted?
the angel who is more powerful than the archangel mikail este michael
become a part of the evil one???

:rofl: and everyone if us were being played as fool by the evil one
who wants everyone to believe that
the pawn the devil satan ifself was already bound in order to lure us into
a trap where it is already known to everyone
:read:
Matthew: 6. 34. Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
~:› UNTO THE DAY IS THE EVIL THEREOF . . ..

:now: which day are we talking here? :think:
:whistle: is this the day that the devil is bound right now? :hmm:

: : hope we and everyone of us should remember this

God bless us all always


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2 Thessalonians: 2. 7. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9. Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

:smoke: perhaps if we could consider this verses
we could learn that the evil things which is happening right now
from all the diiferent parts of each nation is coming from
the evil one itself whose half of its unknown
were keep unto satan for according to the scriptures
satan is once an angel and how can a powerful angel can be corrupted?
the angel who is more powerful than the archangel mikail este michael
become a part of the evil one???

:rofl: and everyone of us were being played as fool by the evil one
who wants everyone to believe that
the pawn the devil satan ifself was already bound in order to lure us into
a trap where it is already known to everyone
:read:
Matthew: 6. 34. Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
~:› UNTO THE DAY IS THE EVIL THEREOF . . ..

:now: which day are we talking here? :think:
:whistle: is this the day
that the devil is bound right now? :hmm:

: : hope we and everyone of us should remember this

God bless us all always


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So satan( who's name in Hebrew I the accuser) isn't bound in regard to not being able to accuse the believer according to their imperfections concerning the law?
As with ALL Satan's activities he is restricted in that as well :) If Satan was not restricted the world would be a different world.
 

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2 Thessalonians: 2. 7. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9. Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

:smoke: perhaps if we could consider this verses
we could learn that the evil things which is happening right now
from all the diiferent parts of each nation is coming from
the evil one itself whose half of its unknown
In so far as I understand you, you are contradicting yourself. The point of that passage is that Satan IS bound, only to be released for a short time at the end of the age when the restraining angel is taken out of the way..

satan is once an angel and how can a powerful angel can be corrupted?
How can an innocent man be corrupted? But he was.

the angel who is more powerful than the archangel mikail este michael
become a part of the evil one???
He IS the Evil One.


:read:
Matthew: 6. 34. Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
~:› UNTO THE DAY IS THE EVIL THEREOF . . ..
This is not referring to Satan at all. The evil spoken of is the harmful things that occur for man daily. Jesus was simply saying 'don't be anxious about things you cannot yet do anything about. Concentrate on dealing with the problems of the day you are living in. It you think about the future too much it will overwhelm you.'
 
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In so far as I understand you, you are contradicting yourself. The point of that passage is that Satan IS bound, only to be released for a short time at the end of the age when the restraining angel is taken out of the way..



How can an innocent man be corrupted? But he was.



He IS the Evil One.




This is not referring to Satan at all. The evil spoken of is the harmful things that occur for man daily. Jesus was simply saying 'don't be anxious about things you cannot yet do anything about. Concentrate on dealing with the problems of the day you are living in. It you think about the future too much it will overwhelm you.'
:smoke: not at all my brother
for the first post was not our if there something contradicts unto what we really wants to say
because there is something
that a human couldn't understand believe it or not . ...

:rofl: and most of here wouldn't even believe
that everytime we want to post something like this
our post were been change :dontknow:

:whistle: and from your words my brother
that you were very certain that you are evil proof until that day or
from the days to come . . . ... AS YOU'VE SAID THAT EVEN AN
INNOCENT MAN CAN BE CORRUPTED BECAUSE HE WAS
AND THAT'S SHOWS YOU'RE THE ONE WHO THINKS THE FUTURE
IN THIS WORLD TOO MUCH AND NOT THE THINGS
WHICH ARE IN HEAVENS
:read:
1 Corinthians: 8. 5. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

Deuteronomy: 10. 17. For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:
18. He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment.

:happy: Remember this always
:read:
Proverbs: 8. 30. Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31. Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

:now: tell us if this were part of this reality
that humans have known since the creation
that so many were overwhelm such as you my brother

: : BUT SOMEONE FORGOT ONE THING . ...
:read:


God bless us all always


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In so far as I understand you, you are contradicting yourself. The point of that passage is that Satan IS bound, only to be released for a short time at the end of the age when the restraining angel is taken out of the way..



How can an innocent man be corrupted? But he was.



He IS the Evil One.




This is not referring to Satan at all. The evil spoken of is the harmful things that occur for man daily. Jesus was simply saying 'don't be anxious about things you cannot yet do anything about. Concentrate on dealing with the problems of the day you are living in. It you think about the future too much it will overwhelm you.'
:smoke: not at all my brother
for the first post was not our if there something contradicts unto what we really wants to say
because there is something
that a human couldn't understand believe it or not . ...

:rofl: and most of here wouldn't even believe
that everytime we want to post something like this
our post were been change :dontknow:

:whistle: and from your words my brother
that you were very certain that you are evil proof until that day or
from the days to come . . . ... AS YOU'VE SAID THAT EVEN AN
INNOCENT MAN CAN BE CORRUPTED BECAUSE HE WAS
AND THAT'S SHOWS YOU'RE THE ONE WHO THINKS THE FUTURE
IN THIS WORLD TOO MUCH AND NOT THE THINGS
WHICH ARE IN HEAVENS
:read:
1 Corinthians: 8. 5. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

Deuteronomy: 10. 17. For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:
18. He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment.

:happy: Remember this always
:read:
Proverbs: 8. 30. Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31. Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

:now: tell us if this were part of this reality
that humans have known since the creation
that so many were overwhelm such as you my brother

: : BUT SOMEONE FORGOT ONE THING . ...
:read:
1 Timothy: 4. 4. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5. For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
~:»AND WE ARE TELLING YOU THAT SOMETHING IS
NOT BEEN CREATED OR NOT EVEN CREATED BY
OUR LORD GOD THE FATHER WHO IS GOOD
AND DOESN'T LIE
AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON
OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO IS OUR SAVIOUR
WHEN THE TIME COMES . ...

God bless us all always


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AS YOU'VE SAID THAT EVEN AN
INNOCENT MAN CAN BE CORRUPTED BECAUSE
-HE WAS . . ..
-He IS the Evil One.
-This is not referring to Satan at all. The evil spoken of is the harmful things that occur for man daily.
~:» :rof: AND THIS WHAT WE CALLED CONTRADICTION
:read:
1 John: 3. 8. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

and again you quote my brother
-Jesus was simply saying 'don't be anxious about things you cannot yet do anything about.
~:› AND WE WILL TAKE YOUR WORDS
FOR THIS SHOWS THAT
UNTIL SATAN IS BOUND
YOU DONT BE ANXIOUS
ABOUT THINGS YOU CANNOT YET DO ANYTHING ABOUT
:read:
2 Corinthians: 12. 7. And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
~:› PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW SOMEONE IS BEEN BOUND
COULD SEND A MESSANGER TO SAULO ESTE PABLO OR PAUL

Finally from this words of yours my brother
-Concentrate on dealing with the problems of the day you are living in. It you think about the future too much it will overwhelm you.'
~:› PROVED THAT YOUR WAY OF THINKING WERE SOMEHOW
CONTRADICTING FOR YOU ALSO STUDYING AND LEARNED
WHAT IS TO COME AND THAT IS
FROM THE FUTURE OR SHALL WE SAY EVERYTHING YOU DO
WE DO NOW
IS FOR THE SALVATION OF OUR SOUL IN THE NEAR FUTURE . ...

PLEASE CORRECT US IF WE ARE WRONG MY BROTHER

God bless us all always


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:smoke: and last thing we remember is the verses from
Hebrews: 2. 14. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
~:»IF WE WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO READ
THE
FOLLOWING VERSES SHALL TELL US
WHAT THE AUTHOR IS TRYING TO SAY
ABOUT THE VERSES IN HEBREW 2:14
PLEASE CONTINUE TO
:read:
Hebrew 2:15
15. And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
~:› THE APOSTLE IN GENTILES SAULO ESTE PABLO OR PAUL
WANTS TO TELL US IN HIS WRITTINGS FROM THIS VERSE THAT
OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THAT HE TOOK THE SEED OF ABRAHAM IN ORDER
TO MAKE RECONCILIATION FOR THE SINS OF THE PEOPLE
AND NOT TO BOUND THE DEVIL RIGHT NOW :haha:

:whistle: that you've translated unto
your own thinking that's why we show unto you my brother that
if you would only continue to read the following verses then
you should know that your interpretation
has nothing to do with the devil is bound right now :rofl:

You willfully ignore the Greek.

‘Katargēsē’ is in the aorist - i.e.
completed action...i.e. the Devil has already been bound...its a done deal!

 
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Possibly the devil us bound now in relation to accusing believers they fail to live good enough lives ( under the law) to be christians, for Christ is their right standing before the father. But he is not bound in regard to trying to lead them astray from the faith, he is not bound in regard to trying to lure them away from the true path and back to the world
Demons are still roaming free.

Satan is not.

The evil we see today is due to demons.