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Seals Trumpets Vials
1 Conqueror Hail and Fire Sores
2 War Sea-to-Blood Sea-to-Blood
3 Famine Wormwood Rivers-to-Blood
4 Death Sun darkened Men scorched
5 Martys' voices Plague of locusts Darkening
6 Earthquake/Skyquake Army from Euphrates Euphrates dried
7 Silence Nations Enraged It is Done
 
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Revelation reveled.revelations proved .Seven thunders to seven church's, It is that simple.


WELL, DOE'S ANY BODY HAVE ANY REASON WHY EVERY THING LINES UP IN THE CHART I GAVE YOU? all scripture is in order, and not placing ,And spacing them in order ,to make a point.
Find your question vertically, in the Seven Thunders,and then find your answer horizontally .
this is a gemartria no.--------------------------------------------------------no.27027
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0 = a space no. that can be discarded
Remember the 0 is a spacer,and can be discarded,so what I get is as fallows
27072--------- 27 books in the bible come to revelations,
2+7- 0- 7+2
9- 0- 9 the spacer in gemartria can be removed so we get
9+9 then
18 then
9
In gemartria the number nine is,the number of Finality,,judgment,Fruit of the spirit, Divine completeness from the father



The two no.are basic to light and creation put the no.s together you get a palindrome-27072
and we have the lowest number evenly divisible by each other.well in gemartria of the old test the number 27 is the number of light.
The Hebrew word for light adds p to 207 and multiplies to 12 since zeros are merely place holders it can be written in gemartria as 27.The same Hebrew word is sometimes translated Sun.The same Hebrew meaning to illuminate ,
now 72 =
New test word for seeds from Greek meaning ,that from life springs ,it bas the no.720 ,The title ,Lord God in Heaven also adds up to 72
he is from that life springs.


So Christ is the -- 27=light of the world
and.72=lord god in heaven
light = lord god in heaven prophesy,also= revelations.
The making of the chart you may just as well just print them as given.It is a sequential use, of scripture.
As for its use .The vertical lines tell the events ,the horizontal lines explain the event.
If you have a particular question ?Find out where it is vertically on the chart then read the answer horizontally.Thunders 1,2,3,4,5,6,7
There are seven stories told from seven vantage points .it is a seven dimensional look in to the future of one event ,the church on earth.and it's redemption in heaven,The more you look at it the more you will see.Look at it All Then read my posts it explains each of the vertical lines.
then Goggle
walt2000 revelations
That will explain the interior parts of the charts,There is no sense repeating every thing when it is all in front of you.
There is no Bible code!!
Instead of 35 years studying Revelations it would have been more productive focusing on the Gospels. EVERYTHING we need to know is in the Gospels. If there were no other books in the NT ,apart from the Gospels it would not matter because the fullness of truth is in the 4 Gospels.​
probably in retrospect, it would be easier, every thing is in the the gospels,and every thing should be easier, but revelations was, hidden for a reason,hidden, so not every body would understand, .I think It was put there so every body will not be able to know ,Just the sealed of GOD, The people, the people that have the seal of GOD in their foreheads the one's that he wanted to under stand.The people that want to put the time into it, not all people were meant to under stand.That's why there are so many interp. of it.
People usually study some one else's opinion and don't want to study,They have a 15 minute attention span,GOD WANTS you to form your own.

When you go to a study group ,the leader there, has about a week or two looking at a set agenda, their not studying for them self's, their studying another person's work .There is a special blessing for those that work it out.For them self's


Unless you are compelled to study this ,leave it alone .Read Rev.22/18 and underline Rev.22/19
Look up these no.'s in scripture.
http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/The Significance of Numbers in Scripture.htm


I know I am bucking the traces here ,How come some thing this simple is so hard to see.walt2000​
 
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Walt2000: It might help if there was a simplified version that was easier to read, then move on to the more complex. Is it just those three things that you line up (seals, trumpets, vials)
 
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Re.1-3 PROMISES things john seen
Promise Seven church of laodicea------------------ Re.3/4 A THRONE
Promise six church of Philadelphia-------------- Re.3/7 PROTECTION
Promise five church of Sardis------------ Re.3/1 CLOTHED IN WHITE
Promise four church of Thyatira------------------------- Re.2/18 POWER
Promise three church of Pergamas--------- Re.2/12 FORGIVENESS
Promise two church of Smyrna--------- Re.2/8 NO SECOND DEATH
Promise one church of Ephesus------ Re.2/1 LIFE EVER LASTING


I LIKE MY REWARD TO BE ON TOP
so I put my victory at the top. REMEMBER LOOK AT THE NUMERICS of the thing.
7 THRONE
6 MAN
5 WORD
4 EARTH
3 UNITY IN THE TRINITY
2 DIVINE PROTECTION
1 ONENESS,IN THE LIGHT
HAY GUYS WE WINNERS SEVEN TIMES A WINNER
this is a prologue to the seven thunders,then we win seven more times, then in the epilogue we win again.
Unless you are compelled to study this ,leave it alone .Read Rev.22/18 and underline Rev.22/19
THUNDER No.1 Re.6-8/3 Like I said I like to keep my Victory at the top
The LAMB is able to open the SEALS, WHITE HORSE.


SEAL No. 7 silence in heaven.Christ wins


The sealed Re.7/17 the sealed ones, in their foreheads.


SEAL No.6 The no. of MAN
EARTH QUAKE look at the 6 th. trumpet,6 th.Promise
Re.6/12 look at the 6 th.Vial


SEAL No.5 The no. of the WORD
SOULS ARE GIVEN look at the 5 th.trumpet
WHITE ROBES look at the 5 th. Pomises
Re.6/9 look at the 5 th.Vial


SEAL No.4 The no. of the EARTH
PALE look at the 4 th. trumpet
HORSE look at the 4 th. Promise
Re.6/7 look at the 4 th.Vial


SEAL No.3 The no. of the WITNESSES
BLACK Look at the 3 rd.trumpet
HORSE Look at the 3 rd. Promise
Re.6/5 Look at the 3 rd.Vial


SEAL No 2 the no. of DIFFERENCE
RED look at the 2 nd. trumpet
HORSE look at the 2 nd. Promise
Re.6/3 look at the 2 nd. Vial


SEAL No.1 the no. of the LIGHT CHRIST
WHITE look at the 1 st. trumpet WITH A
HORSE look at the 1 st. Promise CROWN
Re.6/1 look at the 1 st. Vial SACRIFICE


Look up Seal no.3 Do not hurt the OIL & THE WINE .
See what significance the oil and the wine, has to the catholic mass.
SEVEN TIMES A WINNER
walt2000​
 
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So you have the seven letters to the churches and a reference to seven thunders. Will have to look at the thunders thing...
 
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charisenexcelcis

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OK, thunders in used ten times in Rev. Which are the seven? I know at least one is the reference.
 
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I think Hollywood has had to much influence lol
Matthew 24:36 (New International Version)


The Day and Hour Unknown

36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father.
 
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I,ll Get back to you tomorrow.charisenexcelcis You nailed it.walt2000
 
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I,ll Get back to you tomorrow.charisenexcelcis You nailed it.walt2000
I am not always able to be here, but probably. Have a great evening. God bless.
 
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THUNDER no.2 Re.8/4-11/19
NO SECOND DEATH
SEVEN TRUMPETS
Again Remember to read this from the bottom up, so we can keep the victory at the top.


TRUMPET NO.7 Re.11.15---------------------KINGDOOM IS THE LORDS
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THE WITNESSES Re.10/11/13 THIS THUNDER EXPLAINS ----------------
THUNDER NO.3-see next thunder--------------------------------------
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TRUMPET NO.6 Re.9/14------------------------------THE GREAT RIVER
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TRUMPET NO.5 Re.19/4-------------------PROTECTION OF THE SEALED
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TRUMPET NO.4 Re.8/12---------------------------SUN,MOON,SMITTEN
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TRUMPET NO. 3 Re.8/10------------------------WORMWOOD IN WATER
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TRUMPET NO.2 Re.8/8---------------------BURNING MOUNTAIN IS SEA
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TRUMPET NO.1 Re.8/7-------------------HOLY CITY TREAD 1260 DAYS
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I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE SEVEN PROMISES AND TWO OF THE THUNDERS SO FAR ,DON'T YOU SEE A REPETITION OF EVENTS FORMING ,EVERY THING REPEATS IT SELF.OVER AND OVER.AND OVER AGAIN.
.KEEP THESE AND YOU CAN GLUE THESE SIDE BY SIDE. THE NEXT THUNDER WILL BE THUNDER NO.3 THE GREAT WITNESSES , THUNDER NO.3.KEEP A EYE ONE THE EVENTS SIDE BY SIDELIKE PROMISES
NO.5--------------------------------------------GIVEN WHITE CLOTHING
LIKE SEALS-----NO.5--------------------------------SOULS GIVEN ROBES
LIKE TRUMPET NO.5--------------------------PROTECTION OF THE SEALED
SEALED IN THEIR FOREHEADS ,NOT ON THEM.


THE NEXT WILL BE THUNDER NO.3 THE GREAT WITNESSES COMING OUT OF THE TRUMPETS ,TO BRACKET THAT AREA.,OR TO EMPHASIZE THE WITNESSES.JUST BEFORE THE COMING OF CHRIST.. (Remember read this up to have the victory at the top) walt2000.


Unless you are compelled to study this ,leave it alone .Read Rev.22/18 and underline Rev.22/19​
 
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THUNDER No.3 REV.10-11/13
FORGIVENESS
TRINITY THUNDER 3*3*3=27
WITNESSES Re.10-11/13


---------7. MAN GAVE GLORY TO GOD-----
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6. EARTH QUAKE -----------------Re.11/13
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5. COME UP MY PEOPLE---------- Re.11/12
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4.GOD ENTERS WITNESSES------- Re.11/11
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3. BEAST WILL MAKE WAR--------- Re.11/7
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2. WITNESSES WILL PROPHESY----- Re.11/3
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1. HOLY CITY TREAD FOR 1260 DAYS Re.11/1



(Remember this comes out of the thunder no.2 bracketing the witnesses)this has to do with the trinity people.FATHER,SON,AND HOLY SPIRIT HARVEST TIME CHRISTIANS.
Remember read up VICTORY IS TO THE TOP AND KEEP AN EYE ON THE NUMBERS 1 UNITY,2 UNITED,3 TRINITY,4 EARTH,5 WORD,6 NO. OF MAN,7 WHITE HORSE DIVINE,
these are winners with Christ.
Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.​
 
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THUNDER No.4 REV.12-15
POWER OVER NATIONS
THE EARTH Re.12-157. THE GRAPE VINTAGE Re.14/18


6. SON OF MAN WITH CLOUD Re.14/14----------------------------------
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5. THE BLESSED Re.14/13 CHRISTIAN'S----------------------------------
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4. THREE ANGEL MESSENGERS, ARE THUNDER----------------------------
NO.5 (,WAIT) FOR IT, THE NEXT THUNDER THE WORD ON EARTH
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3. BEAST OUT OF THE EARTH Re.13/11---4=EARTH----------------------
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2. BEAST OUT OF THE SEA Re.13/1-------------------------------------
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1. THE DRAGON,THE WOMAN ,THE CHILD Re.12/1------------------------
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See how the numbers fit.in the right slot vertically,through out the other thunders . well when you line them up horizontally they also fit,and they ,start with a WHITE HORSE, AND END WITH A WHITE HORSE.
 
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THUNDER No.5
CLOTHED IN WHITE REV.14/6-15/5
NO.5 IS THE NUMBER OF CHRISTS WORD
THE EARTH AND IS A ADJUNCT TO
THUNDER No.4 REV.12-15
IT IS A BRACKETED PART OF THUNDER NO.4
SHOWING EMPHASES ON THE WORD
Re.14/6-15/5
NO.7 IN HEAVEN Re.15/1------------------------------------------
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THE WINE PRESS remember ,the grape vintage in thunder no.4----same spot horizontally,see that
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NO.6 SUN OF MAN AND SICKLE ------NO.OF MAN--------------------
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NO.5 -3rd ANGEL DO NOT WORSHIP THE BEAST ---------------------
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NO.4 -2nd ANGEL BABYLON ----------------------------------------
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NO.3 -HAS FALLEN Re.14/8-----------------------------------------
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NO.2 -1st. ANGEL PREACHING TO------------------------------------
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NO.1 -THE WORLD Re.14/6------------------------------------------
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can you see the progression from bottom to the top.
with the wine press and then the winner.
if you do not, your getting coached.Unless you are compelled to study this ,leave it alone .Read Rev.22/18 and underline Rev.22/19​
 
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THUNDER No.6 REV.15/6-16 MAN
PROTECTION
Re,15/6-16


VIAL NO.7 IT IS DONE IN HEAVEN---------------------------- Re.15/6-16
THE BLESSED, SAME SPOT AS WINE PRESS,AND SEALED-----------------
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VIAL NO.6 THE GREAT RIVER--------------------------------- Re.16/12
LOOK AT SAME SPOT THUNDER NO.6 GREAT RIVER-------------- Re.9/14
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VIAL NO.5 DARKNESS ON THE BREAST ----------------NO.5 IS THE WORD
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VIAL NO.4 SUN,HEAT,BURN MEN ---------------------------------Re.16/8
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VIAL NO.3 BLOOD ON THE WATER ,Re.16./4,LOOK TO WORMWOOD IN WATER.Re.8/10
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VIAL NO.2 BLOOD ON THE SEA-.Re.16/3 ,LOOK TO BURNING MOUNTAIN CAST IN TO THE SEA Re.8/8
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VIAL NO.1 BOILS ON THE BEAST-------------------------------- Re.16/2
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I SUPPOSE ,YOU HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE UP WARD PROGRESSION OF THIS ,TO A VICTORY AT THE TOP.
 
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THE DIVINE ,THUNDER No.7 REV.17-20
THRONE

VICTORY AT LAST Re.17-20
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7. THE WHITE HORSE, WINNER,CROWNS RE.19/11 SEVEN---- THUNDERS END WITH A WHITE HORSE ,AS YOU KNOW THEY STARTED WITH A WHITE HORSE-Re.6/1 WINE PRESS ,REMEMBER WINE PRESS IN THUNDER NO.5----
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6.MAKE WAR Re.19/11 REM BER TWO GREAT RIVERS Re.9/14 AND Re.16/12,AND TWO EARTH QUAKES ----Re.6/12 AND---- Re.11/13----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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5.COME UP MY PEOPLE Re.18/4-Re.19/9 LOOK AT COME UP----- MY PEOPLE Re.11/12 THUNDER NO.7 AND THUNDER NO.3-
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4&3 BABYLON HAS FALLEN Re.18/1,COM PAIR TO BABYLON HAS FALLEN Re.14/8 HAY THEY ALSO LINE UP ----------------------
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2&1 MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT WHORE Re.17/1 LINE UP TO 1 ST. ANGEL PREACHING TO THE WORLD Re.17/1------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE DIVINE, ALL LINE UP AT THE START OF SEVEN THUNDERS------------------------------------------------------------
START WHITE HORSE END Re.6/1,CHRIST IS THE WINNER WHITE HORSE END Re.19/11.-------THERE ARE YOUR SEVEN THUNDERS------ REMBER READ FROM BOTTOM UP.VICTORY AT THE TOP.------------------------------------------------------
THE REST IS EASY IF YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU IN BAD SHAPE.can you find all that in revelations with out using another book in the bible or not ,now explain the revelations 10.and use revelations 22/18 as the only rule.
 
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Ask any body,(that Say's he or she is a prophet of Rev.) if they can interpret Rev.10, and tell you what the SEVEN THUNDERS said to the church's, if they can, then they are worth listening to, if they can not, then leave them alone ,they are false prophets.They all commit the same sin ,They have to fallow Revelation 22/18-20 if not ,they are condemned.To the plagues of Rev.Walt2000
 
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THUNDER No.1 Re.6-8/3
EVERLASTING LIFE
Like I said I like to keep my Victory at the top The LAMB is able to open the SEALS, WHITE HORSE.​


SEAL No. 7------------------------------------------ silence in heaven.Christ wins​


The sealed Re.7/17- the sealed ones, in their for heads.​


SEAL No.6 --------------------------------------------------------The no. of MAN
EARTH QUAKE look at the 6 th. trumpet,6 th.Promise
Re.6/12 look at the 6 th.Vial​


SEAL No.5-------------------------------------------------- The no. of the WORD
SOULS ARE GIVEN look at the 5 th.trumpet
WHITE ROBES look at the 5 th. Po mises
Re.6/9 look at the 5 th.Vial​


SEAL No.4------------------------------------------------ The no. of the EARTH
PALE look at the 4 th. trumpet
HORSE look at the 4 th. Promise
Re.6/7 look at the 4 th.Vial​


SEAL No.3 ------------------------------------------The no. of the WITNESSES
BLACK Look at the 3 rd.trumpet
HORSE Look at the 3 rd. Promise
Re.6/5 Look at the 3 rd.Vial​


SEAL No 2 ---------------------------------------------the no. of DIFFERENCE
RED look at the 2 nd. trumpet
HORSE look at the 2 nd. Promise
Re.6/3 look at the 2 nd. Vial​


SEAL No.1-------------------------------------- the no. of the LIGHT CHRIST
WHITE look at the 1 st. trumpet WITH A
HORSE look at the 1 st. Promise CROWN
Re.6/1 look at the 1 st. Vial SACRIFICE
WHITE HORSE look at same WHITE HORSE Re. 19/11​

--------------SEVEN TIMES A WINNER THE 1st. THUNDER------------
------------------------------SIX MORE TO COME----------------------------------
walt2000
The LAMB is able to open the SEALS, WHITE HORSE, CHRIST
THIS IS A WINNER. NOT A LOSER​


Unless you are compelled to study this ,leave it alone .Read Rev.22/18 and underline Rev.22/19
I left THUNDER NO. 1 To the end to ( bracket ) The SEVEN THUNDERS
 
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Kings .
You mentioned Kings It reminds me of a Dream I had some forty years or so ago.
That bothered me, for a longest time.
I got out of bed, there was a clatter in the front of our new home we had just built .There were windows right to the peak of the house,a little gray bird was caught in the sharp Peek at the top of the roof.I got up to that area and there was a another bird, but much larger,and purest of white,it had it's wings wrapped around the little bird,protecting it.
I was wondering why this was happening.I ran out side in my shorts, to get a closer look,and try to see what was bothering the two. Well ,When I got outside there was a large black long cloud in front and behind the house from horizon to horizon east to west, to .It was a cigar shaped thing,the cloud bothered the little gray bird and it was in a panic.
I yelled at the top of my lunges,ANGELA look at this, is this something or what ,Well we were in bed and my wife was still asleep,we were both there in shock looking at each other.
Well, that' not the funny part of the story.About two or three years after,a minister riped a page out of bible,and gave the page to me, and he said that there was some thing on this page ,that will straighten something out and ,that it has been bothering me.
From the start of the dream to the expiation of the dream took over two years.
So I think God can be in control of a few numbers in the bible.I told that dream to a lot of people and this guy never heard of it yet ,and he was right on . P.S STRANGE OR WHAT walt2000
 
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Revelations is not for the Jew .It is for the Christian.If it was for the Jew, it would have been given to moses. It is a summation of the whole bible.The bible explains Revelations,and revelations confirms the whole bible.Given to Christians.
I baptize you with water (living word) of God, but he who comes after me, baptizes you with the holy spirit (the spirit of the living god)and with fire (the sight of his second coming).
The Jew missed the first coming, but they will see, hear,and feel his next coming.walt.2000​
 
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