Is the Holy Spirit at work today

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Is the holy spirit at work this very day?
Does he perform miracles in these modern times?
What do you believe?
 
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Abiding

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The Holyspirit doesnt speak for Himself or do tricks for followers. Of coarse Hes at work, empowering and giving life to the saints and
the church. We walk by faith and not by sight. When God providentially guides history it doesnt look like a miracle to us. If He chooses
in His good pleasure to do a miracle then He will, for His own purpose. Is the Holyspirit running around doing miracles today? No!
Seeing miracles hinders faith and its impossible to please God without faith.
 

zone

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YES!

Matthew 12:28
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

John 15:26-27
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

John 16:7-16
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart I will send him unto you.
8 and when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

Romans 8:11
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

1 Peter 3:18
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

Romans 8:26-27
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

2 Corinthians 3:6
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

2 Peter 1:21
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

1 Corinthians 2:11-13
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? Even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Luke 12:11-12
11 And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:
12 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

John 14:26
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

1 Corinthians 2:12-13
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

1 John 2:27
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Romans 8:14-16
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Galatians 4:6
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying Abba, Father.

1 John 3:23-24
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another as he gave us commandment. 24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1 John 4:13
13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

1 John 5:6
6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth

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the miracles are the raising of men dead in sin to life in Jesus Christ.

if God chooses to part the red Sea again, He can do that or any other thing He desires.
 
Aug 18, 2011
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The Holyspirit doesnt speak for Himself or do tricks for followers. Of coarse Hes at work, empowering and giving life to the saints and
the church. We walk by faith and not by sight. When God providentially guides history it doesnt look like a miracle to us. If He chooses
in His good pleasure to do a miracle then He will, for His own purpose. Is the Holyspirit running around doing miracles today? No!
Seeing miracles hinders faith and its impossible to please God without faith.
That is a very narrow view you have for if he did perform a miracle today... in China lets say........ would you know you speak very authoritarianly.
It's as though you were indignant to my questions because after all they were JUST QUESTIONS.

Also i'm not proposing that a man can call upon the holy spirit as though it were a dominoes pizza delivery I'm talking about miracles through faith nothing more not an Evangelic ministry doing 100,000 savings in a day but common everyday miracles that we take for granted or assume it is because of our will or own design and may not even recognize as such.
 
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Is the holy spirit at work this very day?
Does he perform miracles in these modern times?
What do you believe?
Yes he is at work,hes never changed,wen there is a genuine repentence its da supernatural works of the holyspirit,n yes does perform mericals hez never changed,iv seen tonnes of mericals thru prayers thru holy spirit
 

zone

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That is a very narrow view you have for if he did perform a miracle today... in China lets say........ would you know you speak very authoritarianly.
It's as though you were indignant to my questions because after all they were JUST QUESTIONS.

Also i'm not proposing that a man can call upon the holy spirit as though it were a dominoes pizza delivery I'm talking about miracles through faith nothing more not an Evangelic ministry doing 100,000 savings in a day but common everyday miracles that we take for granted or assume it is because of our will or own design and may not even recognize as such.
we have misused the word miracles as it is used in the bible.
 
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Abiding

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From the size of your questions to the size of my opinion, you might be
expecting too much.

In other words what?
 

zone

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Miracle

A true miracle is an event in the external world brought about by the immediate agency or the simple volition of God, operating without the use of means capable of being discerned by the senses, and designed to authenticate the divine commission of a religious teacher and the truth of his message (John 2:18; Matt. 12:38).
It is an occurrence at once above nature and above man. It shows the intervention of a power that is not limited by the laws either of matter or of mind, a power interrupting the fixed laws which govern their movements, a supernatural power.
"The suspension or violation of the laws of nature involved in miracles is nothing more than is constantly taking place around us. One force counteracts another: vital force keeps the chemical laws of matter in abeyance; and muscular force can control the action of physical force. When a man raises a weight from the ground, the law of gravity is neither suspended nor violated, but counteracted by a stronger force. The same is true as to the walking of Christ on the water and the swimming of iron at the command of the prophet.

The simple and grand truth that the universe is not under the exclusive control of physical forces, but that everywhere and always there is above, separate from and superior to all else, an infinite personal will, not superceding, but directing and controlling all physical causes, acting with or without them."
God ordinarily effects his purpose through the agency of second causes; but he has the power also of effecting his purpose immediately and without the intervention of second causes, i.e., of invading the fixed order, and thus of working miracles. Thus we affirm the possibility of miracles, the possibility of a higher hand intervening to control or reverse nature's ordinary movements.


In the New Testament these four Greek words are principally used to designate miracles:
  1. Semeion, a “sign”, i.e., an evidence of a divine commission; an attestation of a divine message (Matt. 12:38,39; 16:1, 4; Mark 8:11; Luke 11:16; 23:8; John 2:11, 18, 23; Acts 6:8, etc.); a token of the presence and working of God; the seal of a higher power.
  2. Terata, “wonders;” wonder-causing events; portents; producing astonishment in the beholder (Acts 2:19).
  3. Dunameis, “might works;” works of superhuman power (Acts 2:22; Rom. 15:19; 2 Thess. 2:9); of a new and higher power.
  4. Erga, “works;” the works of Him who is “wonderful in working” (John 5:20, 36).
Miracles are seals of a divine mission. The sacred writers appealed to them as proofs that they were messengers of God. Our Lord also appealed to miracles as a conclusive proof of his divine mission (John 5:20, 36; 10:25, 38). Thus, being out of the common course of nature and beyond the power of man, they are fitted to convey the impression of the presence and power of God.

Where miracles are there certainly God is. The man, therefore, who works a miracle affords thereby clear proof that he comes with the authority of God; they are his credentials that he is God's messenger. The teacher points to these credentials, and they are a proof that he speaks with the authority of God. He boldly says, “God bears me witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles.”

The credibility of miracles is established by the evidence of the senses on the part of those who are witnesses of them, and to all others by the testimony of such witnesses. The witnesses were competent, and their testimony is trustworthy. Unbelievers, following Hume, deny that any testimony can prove a miracle, because they say miracles are impossible. We have shown that miracles are possible, and surely they can be borne witness to. Surely they are credible when we have abundant and trustworthy evidence of their occurrence. They are credible just as any facts of history well authenticated are credible.

Miracles, it is said, are contrary to experience. Of course they are contrary to our experience, but that does not prove that they were contrary to the experience of those who witnessed them. We believe a thousand facts, both of history and of science, that are contrary to our experience, but we believe them on the ground of competent testimony.

An atheist or a pantheist must, as a matter of course, deny the possibility of miracles; but to one who believes in a personal God, who in his wisdom may see fit to interfere with the ordinary processes of nature, miracles are not impossible, nor are they incredible.
Author: Matthew G. Easton.


List of miracles recorded in the Bible (partial list):


Miracles, including list of biblical miracles (WebBible? Encyclopedia) - ChristianAnswers.Net
 
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rekon its always good to define something before you can discuss it, ty zone
and thankyou for listing the verses we are given to know what the Holyspirit
will do. This way we can test the spirits. :)
 
Aug 18, 2011
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we have misused the word miracles as it is used in the bible.
perhaps we do misuse the word miracles but that is not to say that the holy spirit is not doing Gods work today in the here and now which is I guess my point
 

zone

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perhaps we do misuse the word miracles but that is not to say that the holy spirit is not doing Gods work today in the here and now which is I guess my point
ok...what "manifestations" are you asking about?
 
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Is the holy spirit at work this very day?
Does he perform miracles in these modern times?
What do you believe?
a few Sunday's ago my husband's nana's preacher told us to pray for rain because we were having a drought and looking at the weather reports for this weekend it look like that prayer might be answered. What do you think?

My husband said to be careful what you pray for cuz God has a sense of humor and you might not get the answer you expect.

I told him, yeah but He always gives us what we need ;)
 
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define them please.
OK as I cannot give you precise examples with names etc. I will give you a story as I recall oh hang on a minute I remember go to you tube and type in raised from the dead you will see a man who is an airplane crash survivor who claims well........... go check it out for yourself the guy's face or half of it is still very damaged but he is being interviewed about his experience this is the "miracles" or manifestations I speak of
see for yourself
individual testamonies like these give me goose bumps
 
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i need a manifestation to understand this thread...or do i need an interpreter? :)
 
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The Holyspirit doesnt speak for Himself or do tricks for followers. Of coarse Hes at work, empowering and giving life to the saints and
the church. We walk by faith and not by sight. When God providentially guides history it doesnt look like a miracle to us. If He chooses
in His good pleasure to do a miracle then He will, for His own purpose. Is the Holyspirit running around doing miracles today? No!
Seeing miracles hinders faith and its impossible to please God without faith.
i see miracles in everything and I think it is a miracle that God loves us. I think birth is a miracle, the sunrise and everything beautiful and wonderful God has made and blessed us with are all miracles. people often say that is not enough and that it is not a true miracle. well people said that about manna in the desert too and complained then too so I don't see that much difference.

I don't think miracles hinder my faith in God. I have faith that no matter what God will love His children and guide them. I believe God answers prayers and sometimes He chooses to use miracles to do it. It is just sometimes people do not give GOD the GLORY and deny the miracle done for them. the miracles of healing are dismissed as false diagnosis by doctors. the miracles of prophecy and tongues have been perverted from their original purposes (to testify of Jesus and His lordship and to spread the gospel by speaking languages of peoples without prior study in a manner they can understand)

Faith is the assurance that even though at times we can not see God's hands in EVERYTHING we still trust in His promise and His love and His message He sent through His Son and Jesus sacrifice and resurrection.

I see zone posted a definition which I probably should have read before responding but I'm tired and have to finish laundry....
 
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YES!

Romans 8:14-16
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

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the miracles are the raising of men dead in sin to life in Jesus Christ.

if God chooses to part the red Sea again, He can do that or any other thing He desires.
Amen to that. Let God's will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. Lord forgive us our trespass and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. May Your Name be Glorified Jesus :)
 

damombomb

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Yes he is at work,hes never changed,wen there is a genuine repentence its da supernatural works of the holyspirit,n yes does perform mericals hez never changed,iv seen tonnes of mericals thru prayers thru holy spirit



Yes he is God and he does just whatever he pleases!
 
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Miracle
Thus we affirm the possibility of miracles, the possibility of a higher hand intervening to control or reverse nature's ordinary movements.


In the New Testament these four Greek words are principally used to designate miracles:
  1. Semeion, a “sign”, i.e., an evidence of a divine commission; an attestation of a divine message (Matt. 12:38,39; 16:1, 4; Mark 8:11; Luke 11:16; 23:8; John 2:11, 18, 23; Acts 6:8, etc.); a token of the presence and working of God; the seal of a higher power.
  2. Terata, “wonders;” wonder-causing events; portents; producing astonishment in the beholder (Acts 2:19).
  3. Dunameis, “might works;” works of superhuman power (Acts 2:22; Rom. 15:19; 2 Thess. 2:9); of a new and higher power.
  4. Erga, “works;” the works of Him who is “wonderful in working” (John 5:20, 36).
Miracles are seals of a divine mission. The sacred writers appealed to them as proofs that they were messengers of God. Our Lord also appealed to miracles as a conclusive proof of his divine mission (John 5:20, 36; 10:25, 38). Thus, being out of the common course of nature and beyond the power of man, they are fitted to convey the impression of the presence and power of God.

Where miracles are there certainly God is. The man, therefore, who works a miracle affords thereby clear proof that he comes with the authority of God; they are his credentials that he is God's messenger. The teacher points to these credentials, and they are a proof that he speaks with the authority of God. He boldly says, “God bears me witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles.”

Author: Matthew G. Easton.


List of miracles recorded in the Bible (partial list):


Miracles, including list of biblical miracles (WebBible? Encyclopedia) - ChristianAnswers.Net
true but he forgot the second half of the test: do they point to JESUS as Lord and Savior or do they direct people to a different God and a different Gospel beside the one where JESUS died on the cross for the remission of sins and rose again for the reconcilation with God?

Do not follow a dreamer of dreams that leads you to Hell even if their signs and wonders come true. that is what the Bible warns us of...

Deuteronomy 13

1 “If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods’—which you have not known—‘and let us serve them,’ 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the LORD your God is testing you to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.


isn't it nice God lets us take the test open book? all you have to do is OPEN the BOOK: the HOLY BIBLE. ;)