Is the law of Moses set aside?

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mailmandan

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The Law of Moses is still in effect for those who CHOOSE to live by that Law. And, God have mercy on those who do, for salvaiton is not possible for those who choose to live by the Law, for no man can keep ALL THE LAWS.

That is why the New Covenant was needed. Under the New Covenant, Grace, we have the Law of Faith!
Amen! Philippians 3:9 - and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith.
 

Duckybill

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That's great.

The law was spiritual written in words on stone, to obtain the spiritual worth [the rewards] the words had to be believed and obeyed.

We have received the Spirit ... the desired end of the law.
The 10 commandments were only a drop in the Law of Moses OCEAN than nobody here obeys. But many Law preachers love to pick the easy parts to preach.
 

Jesusfollower

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No Law of Moses preachers here obey the Law of Moses. Such HYPOCRISY!
i do my best to follow it, like an infant learning to walk I am making progress, when you love GOD , you want to follow the commandments. do i make mistakes YES! but i try my best practice makes perfect?

Christ son of GOD paid the priced for our transgressions. but He did not Abolish the law! he asks us to sin no more. I will do my nery best to do what he ask!

""For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. (1. John 5:3-4)"

Why would GOD give us the law and why would Jesus Christ son of GOD thought it in the temple if it was to be abolished?

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)

1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6 “You shall not murder.
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
8 “You shall not steal.
9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”


Blessings,

JF
 

Duckybill

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i do my best to follow it, like an infant learning to walk I am making progress, when you love GOD , you want to follow the commandments. do i make mistakes YES! but i try my best practice makes perfect?

Christ son of GOD paid the priced for our transgressions. but He did not Abolish the law! he asks us to sin no more. I will do my nery best to do what he ask!

""For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. (1. John 5:3-4)"

Why would GOD give us the law and why would Jesus Christ son of GOD thought it in the temple if it was to be abolished?

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)

1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6 “You shall not murder.
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
8 “You shall not steal.
9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”


Blessings,

JF
You forgot the parts that say to EXECUTE gays, adulterers, rebellious children and those who work on weekends. The Law cannot save you. Only Jesus of the NT can save you from the EVERLASTINGHell fire.
 

Jesusfollower

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You forgot the parts that say to EXECUTE gays, adulterers, rebellious children and those who work on weekends. The Law cannot save you. Only Jesus of the NT can save you from the EVERLASTINGHell fire.
you forgot the ones who eat shripm , slavery and other trivial things of today, the 600+ commands were for ancient time it made sense then but most of it does not today. for example pork then was infested with works and if not cooked properly was dangerous ect... clean and unclean. I am not a jew but try to follow the BIG 10. As for gays, personally Jesus commands us to love everyone!!


Blessings and i love you too.

JF
 

studentoftheword

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1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
Jesusfollower ------if your not a Jew then this commandment doesn't apply to you ----as you were never a slave in Egypt ----so because you can't keep this command cause it doesn't apply to you --you just broke all the 10 commandments according to scripture ---


James 2:10 NIV

10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

So what is your point ------if a person Loves ----Agape ------God ----then you will do everything to stay out of sin just because you Agape God and don't want to grieve the Holy Spirit -----the law was put in place to show that your a sinner -----and that when you break a law your in sin -----and your still in bondage ----and under the Curse of the law -----

Have you ever lied ----if you did then you broke all the commands -------have you ever went over the speed limit if you drive a car --if you did then your in sin ------where there is no law there is no sin -----

Romans 4:15-----
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For the Law results in [God’s] wrath [against sin], but where there is no law, there is no violation [of it either].
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God becomes angry when his Law is broken. But where there isn't a law, it cannot be broken.
DARBY
For law works wrath; but where no law is neither [is there] transgression.


Under Grace there is no works of wrath ------so better to be under Grace then trying to keep laws you can't keep and bring wrath upon yourself ----just saying -----
 

Aaron56

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So you have set yourself up as a judge of what you decide others think! Not based on scripture but on this miraculous clairvoyance you state you possess.
No, not myself.
 

Duckybill

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you forgot the ones who eat shripm , slavery and other trivial things of today, the 600+ commands were for ancient time it made sense then but most of it does not today. for example pork then was infested with works and if not cooked properly was dangerous ect... clean and unclean. I am not a jew but try to follow the BIG 10. As for gays, personally Jesus commands us to love everyone!!


Blessings and i love you too.

JF
IOW, the Law of Moses is "obsolete".

Hebrews 8:13 (NKJV)
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.
 

Jesusfollower

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IOW, the Law of Moses is "obsolete".

Hebrews 8:13 (NKJV)
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.
Well all i can say based on scriptures of my previous posts no 19 is that you contradict Jesus son of GOD himself. God gave us free will, what you chose to believe is your own affair. I do not judge you.

Blessings,

JF
 

Blik

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You forgot the parts that say to EXECUTE gays, adulterers, rebellious children and those who work on weekends. The Law cannot save you. Only Jesus of the NT can save you from the EVERLASTINGHell fire.
And the one who can save you through faith in all he says tells us to repent of sin, and we know sin through the law.

The law is of God, given to us by God. It is a wonder that people who say they are Christian are so against the law God tells us about! If we are willfully disobedient there is no salvation for us.

Hebrew 10:26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
 

Duckybill

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Well all i can say based on scriptures of my previous posts no 19 is that you contradict Jesus son of GOD himself. God gave us free will, what you chose to believe is your own affair. I do not judge you.

Blessings,

JF
No Scripture? Of course not.
 
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The law is of God, given to us by God. It is a wonder that people who say they are Christian are so against the law God tells us about!
Wow.
 

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The 10 commandments were only a drop in the Law of Moses OCEAN than nobody here obeys. But many Law preachers love to pick the easy parts to preach.
“forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭15:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Duckybill

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And the one who can save you through faith in all he says tells us to repent of sin, and we know sin through the law.

The law is of God, given to us by God. It is a wonder that people who say they are Christian are so against the law God tells us about! If we are willfully disobedient there is no salvation for us.

Hebrew 10:26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
Galatians 3:10 (NKJV)
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse;

And that AIN'T good!
 

Pilgrimshope

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Remember the words of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ Son of GOD ;
"Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the Law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven. But whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven". (Matthew 5:17-20)

and;
"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them. For this is the Law and the prophets. Enter ye in at the strait gate. For wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. "(Matthew 7:12-23)

""For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. (1. John 5:3-4)"gg


BLessings,

JF
“Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the Law, till all be fulfilled.

“And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. ( I am come to fulfil )

Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, and said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:44-47‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

that Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead,

and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭26:22-23‬ ‭

“But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

….Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: but that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

…and they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia: forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; that ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭15:5-6, 10-11, 19-20, 23-24, 28-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬