Is the mark of the beast going to be about the papacy changing the day of the Sabbath?

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According to the Lord, the abomination will be an idolatrous image that will be set up in the holy place within the temple. The mark on the other hand, will go either on the hand or forehead of the individual and without it no one will be able to buy or sell.

Cain never had the mark of the beast, as their no scripture to support this. God just put a mark upon him. The mark will be specifically for the last days. We already have the technology as the literal fulfillment of the coming mark as a means of buying and selling.



"Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666."

Once again, scripture would disagree with you in that, it is indeed a number as you can plainly see from the verse above.

You should be teaching these things, because they are false.
The number 666 is the number of Man.

Father Adam body was coupled on the 6th day.

6 before the fall
6 after the fall
6 return to glory.

It was again, not explained well. The mark of the beast is a mark given to witches and wizards, which enables them to astro world travels being able to see things where they are not physicay present, commonly known as the third eye.
 

Ahwatukee

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The number 666 is the number of Man.

Father Adam body was coupled on the 6th day.

6 before the fall
6 after the fall
6 return to glory.

It was again, not explained well. The mark of the beast is a mark given to witches and wizards, which enables them to astro world travels being able to see things where they are not physically present, commonly known as the third eye.
Please provide the scriptures that would suggest that the mark is given to witches and wizards. I can tell you, that you will find no scripture that supports this.

The mark of the beast will be a miniature device that will go either on the hand or forehead, just as scripture describes, and without it no one will be able to buy or sell, which today is electronic crediting and debiting. That device will replace card swiping and all other technology being used to electronically credit and debit ones bank account.

Regarding this, we already have people in Sweden being chipped and are using it to make their purchases. So the literal fulfillment is already taking place. However, that RFID chip will evolve into something smaller and more applicable in preparation for that coming antichrist/beast. At around the middle of that last seven years, all other forms of buying and selling will become obsolete and that mark will be the only valid means of performing any financial transactions to ones bank account.
 
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Please provide the scriptures that would suggest that the mark is given to witches and wizards. I can tell you, that you will find no scripture that supports this.

The mark of the beast will be a miniature device that will go either on the hand or forehead, just as scripture describes, and without it no one will be able to buy or sell, which today is electronic crediting and debiting. That device will replace card swiping and all other technology being used to electronically credit and debit ones bank account.

Regarding this, we already have people in Sweden being chipped and are using it to make their purchases. So the literal fulfillment is already taking place. However, that RFID chip will evolve into something smaller and more applicable in preparation for that coming antichrist/beast. At around the middle of that last seven years, all other forms of buying and selling will become obsolete and that mark will be the only valid means of performing any financial transactions to ones bank account.
Why do you think the mark is technology? Is not the Celestial body greater than any technology in this earth? What i have said is true. It is your choice whether you want to believe it, accept it reject it.

So how does one become a witch? How does one become a wizard? Do you know? Are you aware of the workings of your enemy? Are ignorant to the devices and strategies of satan or do you know how?
 

Ahwatukee

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Why do you think the mark is technology? Is not the Celestial body greater than any technology in this earth? What i have said is true. It is your choice whether you want to believe it, accept it reject it.
Because what the scripture states about the mark is literally taking place just as it is written. Why should I believe what you are saying when the literal is already happening?

I've been studying this for over 45 years and have watched every phase of the mark technology. To answer your question, it is technology because in these last days our buying and selling is electronic crediting and debiting. The mark is going to be a means of performing electronic crediting and debiting.

I recognized this when the first ATM's came out, then came the Universal Product Code (UPC), then the Point of Sale system (POS) and now the RFID chip under the skin of the hand. This will continue to evolve leading up to the eventual mark, which will allow people to electronically buy and sell. People are already using this technology and so it is a moot point.

So how does one become a witch? How does one become a wizard? Do you know? Are you aware of the workings of your enemy? Are ignorant to the devices and strategies of satan or do you know how?
The word 'pharmakeia' translated magic arts or witchcraft, is defined as the following:

Strong's Concordance
pharmakeia: the use of medicine, drugs or spells
Original Word: φαρμακεία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: pharmakeia
Phonetic Spelling: (far-mak-i'-ah)
Definition: the use of medicine, drugs or spells
Usage: magic, sorcery, enchantment.

HELPS Word-studies
5331
pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc.

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Therefore, anyone who is using drugs for recreational purposes, would be considered to be guilty of sorcery/magic arts.
 
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Because what the scripture states about the mark is literally taking place just as it is written. Why should I believe what you are saying when the literal is already happening?

I've been studying this for over 45 years and have watched every phase of the mark technology. To answer your question, it is technology because in these last days our buying and selling is electronic crediting and debiting. The mark is going to be a means of performing electronic crediting and debiting.

I recognized this when the first ATM's came out, then came the Universal Product Code (UPC), then the Point of Sale system (POS) and now the RFID chip under the skin of the hand. This will continue to evolve leading up to the eventual mark, which will allow people to electronically buy and sell. People are already using this technology and so it is a moot point.



The word 'pharmakeia' translated magic arts or witchcraft, is defined as the following:

Strong's Concordance
pharmakeia: the use of medicine, drugs or spells
Original Word: φαρμακεία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: pharmakeia
Phonetic Spelling: (far-mak-i'-ah)
Definition: the use of medicine, drugs or spells
Usage: magic, sorcery, enchantment.

HELPS Word-studies
5331
pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc.

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Therefore, anyone who is using drugs for recreational purposes, would be considered to be guilty of sorcery/magic arts.
You haven't answered my question.

First of all, no man may buy or sell save he that has the mark was not pointing towards every day economy. Its written in prophetic language and it was pointing to the world leaders who buy and sell visions to the people they aim to govern. It was to show that only those with the mark of the beast could attain political power.

It has nothing to do with technology, in fact, the earth is heading closer to her heavenly original as she advances further in techonology. The chip isn't the mark of the beast. Do you think the anti- christ has the mark? Do you know the anti-christ has been? Nimrod had the mark, cain attained it before he killed abel as he alone was defining the romans as he was the first Roam man, bannished by father Adam to roam the earth. This was coded but adumbrated what the romans would do to Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

The pharisees were also occultic. Those who planned crucify Jesus His Pre-Eminence were from the occult, had the mark of the beast, and are the enemies of the mankind race.

It has always been the occult that has an unholy alliance with fallen angels (tare angels) who they commune with via astral world travels - and that is baptism into satan.. That is the mark of the beast.

Clairevoyants, mediums, they also have it. And they commune with familiar spirits to do their "unholy divinations". Witches and wizards are also sent to do one thing or another. Witches and wizards also are preaching in churches and you wouldn't even know it.

I understand that you may not yet be ready to to know your enemy, and that is fine. But we were warned not to be ignorant of the devices of satan.
 

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The number 666 is the number of Man.

Father Adam body was coupled on the 6th day.

6 before the fall
6 after the fall
6 return to glory.
The number isn't three sixes - 6,6,6, but is 600 plus 60 plus 6.
 
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The number isn't three sixes - 6,6,6, but is 600 plus 60 plus 6.
What do you think the 600 is pointing too? Do you know Noah was exactly 600 when he entered into the ARK? The ARK was pointing to the celestial immortal body, later reffered to as "The Whole Armor of GOD".

And 60, is the age of the Blessed Virgin Mary when she departed this world, and it had to be so because she is defining the body of Christ. Thats why Isaiah 60 was saying: Arise, Shine, for light is come.

And 6, again is pointing to the 6th day of creation when the GOD coupled the body of father Adam.

All pointing to the body of Man.

The enemies have tried to fool the children of the kingdom into thinking 666 is an evil number. Just the same as the statue that nebuchadnezzar set up is a statue of man in his celestial body. Its a mocker act.
 

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What do you think the 600 is pointing too? Do you know Noah was exactly 600 when he entered into the ARK? The ARK was pointing to the celestial immortal body, later reffered to as "The Whole Armor of GOD".
It has nothing to do with Noah. In fact, when Greek has 3 numbers like that it represents a single number as they are meant to be added. 666 is the number, it shouldn't be broken down into those three numbers and shouldn't be applied to just any number match found in the bible anyways.

And 60, is the age of the Blessed Virgin Mary when she departed this world, and it had to be so because she is defining the body of Christ. Thats why Isaiah 60 was saying: Arise, Shine, for light is come.
The bible does not say how old she was when she died plus it has nothing at all to do with the number of the beast.



And 6, again is pointing to the 6th day of creation when the GOD coupled the body of father Adam.
This is just another meaningless comparison.


The enemies have tried to fool the children of the kingdom into thinking 666 is an evil number.
The number is evil because it is the numerical number of an evil person's name.
 
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It has nothing to do with Noah. In fact, when Greek has 3 numbers like that it represents a single number as they are meant to be added. 666 is the number, it shouldn't be broken down into those three numbers and shouldn't be applied to just any number match found in the bible anyways.



The bible does not say how old she was when she died plus it has nothing at all to do with the number of the beast.





This is just another meaningless comparison.




The number is evil because it is the numerical number of an evil person's name.
The number is not evil. The Logos, GOD's unalterable blue print of the plan of salvation is governed by two principles:
Similitudes and Adumbrations.

A similitude is where a person steps into the shoes of another to reveal things about that person that was not revealed before. Such as, the story of Samson. Samson is in the similtude of Adam His Eminence, and Delilah in the similitude of Mother Eve her Grace. That is why there are three states of Samson: His strength before his hair was shaven, his state after his hair was shaven, and his return to strength as his hair grows back.

An adumbration is a supernatural copy and paste of an event, so that it will replay later. An example of this is the events of Noah. Jesus His Pre-Eminence said: As it were in the days of noah, so too shall the coming of the Son of Man be. This is an adumbration.

Do you think numbers are not apart of it?

What about the fact that Joshua was given a code to bring down the walls of Jericho? And he had to walk around the walls 1x per day for 7 days, and on the 7th day, walk around 7x and shout and the walls came down. What about the fact that 7 repeats where Noah is concerned?


6 And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made: (40)

7 And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth.

8 Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground;

9 But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark.

10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; (7)

11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.

12 And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more. (7)

13 And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry.

What about Lamech, the father of Noah lived exactly 777 years.

And the 7th day was sanctified and made Holy, pointing not to sunday or saturday, but to the 7th dispensation.

Numbers are coded in the LOGOS and its true whether you choose to accept it or not.