Is the United States of America in Bible prophesy?

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nathan3

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so nathan - you believe we not only pre-existed as spirit beings (Elohim) in the First Earth Age....

but that America (and the Commonwealth i presume) are the real Israel.

right?

British-Israelism?

ships of chittim and all that?

(please don't rewrite my post without making it obvious, thx)


Isaiah 23:1
An oracle concerning Tyre: Wail, O ships of Tarshish! For Tyre is destroyed and left without house or harbor. From the land of Cyprus word has come to them.

the isles of Chittim - Cyprus
Josephus ("Ant." i. 6, 1)

One of the few passages of the Bible which give a more definite hint in regard to Chittim is Ezekiel 27:6, which agrees very well with Cyprus: "Of the oaks of Bashan do they make them oars; thy ships' benches do they make of ivory, encased with cedar from the isles of Chittim." The sense of this passage is, that the fleets coming from Tarshish (Tartessus) to Tyre, would, on their way, learn from the inhabitants of Cyprus the news of the downfall of Tyre.'


it's not about America, nathan.
You have your opinions. And I have mine. I'm glade God made America, so that I can believe as I want...

The dictatorship nation of Zone ; does not exist. thank God. :)
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Opinions are like <>, everyone has one. It's not what you think, it's what you can prove that matters.
 

zone

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You have your opinions. And I have mine. I'm glade God made America, so that I can believe as I want...

The dictatorship nation of Zone ; does not exist. thank God. :)
pffft....dictatorship nation of zone?
ya sure.

course you're free to believe what ya want. why not think for yourself instead of knocking back shots of Arnold Murray constantly?

what's that got to do with reality:rolleyes:?
 
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nathan3

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pffft....dictatorship nation of zone?
ya sure.

course you're free to believe what ya want. why not think for yourself instead of knocking back shots of Arnold Murray constantly?

what's that got to do with reality:rolleyes:?
I'm sure Murray did not write the Strong's Concordance, you be more correct if you said, why do i keep looking up words for, thats so last century right ? :/
 
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I believe that America shows us that the bible is correct, that God rules our world. It was founded mostly by people who worshipped God and tried to live as God asked them to. As long as that was so, America flourished. Now that isn't so, I think we should beware. In that way, America is living out what the bible tells us.

For instance, Plymouth flourished, Jamestown without God as a reason for developing it, died. The depression came just after the roaring 20's.
 

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zone

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I'm sure Murray did not write the Strong's Concordance, you be more correct if you said, why do i keep looking up words for, thats so last century right ? :/
nathan:)
i can open Strong's and can decide satan had sex with eve if i want to.
if that's what someone told me first.
i can also open it and see Adam had a ruddy complexion and decide that means the British Commonwealth is the Adamic race if i want to.
i can do all those things because my foundation (presupposition) would based on the extra-biblical beliefs of the Masoretes.

not to mention, though EW Bullinger did some amazingly detailed work, he was an hyper-dispensationalist.
look into it.
 
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The United States of America is never explicitly mentioned in the Bible. In regard to the end times, the only nation the Bible seems to be concerned with, specifically, is Israel. Revelation does not mention any countries or nations, other than Israel (Revelation 7:4 ; 21:12 ). It mentions Babylon (Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21), but beyond that, it does not name specific places. Bible scholars debate whether this refers to a literal city of Babylon or whether Babylon is being used symbolically. Again, Israel is the focus of end-times Bible prophecy.

Why is the United States of America never mentioned in Bible prophecy? This could be for several reasons: (1) Perhaps the United States does not play an important role in the end times. (2) Perhaps the United States does not exist any more once the end times begin. (3) Perhaps the United States is included with all the other nations that reject God in the end times (Revelation 10:11 ; 11:18; 12:5; 14:8; 15:4; 16:19; 17:15; 18:3,23; 19:15). Option (3) is the most likely answer. The United States of America is the biggest supporter of Israel in the world today. This might not always be the case.
If you consider that one third of the earth will be burned up and yet the entire Western Hemisphere is one third of the earth, then you may see with His help that USA will not be the only nation that will suffer that catclysmic event.

The clue being how the armies of the rest of the world that will rally at Armegeddon, some are hinted by symbolisms as all being of the Eastern Hemisphere, then you can see why God seperated the Western Hemisphere ahead of time for all of those prophesies to be fulfilled.
 
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nathan3

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nathan:)
i can open Strong's and can decide satan had sex with eve if i want to.
if that's what someone told me first.
i can also open it and see Adam had a ruddy complexion and decide that means the British Commonwealth is the Adamic race if i want to.
i can do all those things because my foundation (presupposition) would based on the extra-biblical beliefs of the Masoretes.

not to mention, though EW Bullinger did some amazingly detailed work, he was an hyper-dispensationalist.
look into it.

Sorry to break it to you Zone, But Christ & Moses did not carry around a English Bible. Plus, English is Not, what they spoke. Again the Hebrew and Greek & Aramaic , is not the same as English. So If The Strong's Concordance shows the correct reading from the originals; as Eve was seduced by Satan, then that is the correct reading. If you want to remain a child and think in those terms, have at it. its your choice. But the Manuscripts state the correct reading. Not the English. Adam means ruddy complected . That's what the word means "period". I will mature in God's word. but you, you stay where you are, you might hurt yourself with it.


Let's show you what Adam means in the manuscripts :

'adam
aw-dawm'


from ''adam' (119); ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.):--X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person.
Prim:

'adam
aw-dam'


to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy:--be (dyed, made) red (ruddy).


Grow up Zone.
 
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zone

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Sorry to break it to you Zone, But Christ & Moses did not carry around a English Bible. Plus, English is Not, what they spoke. Again the Hebrew and Greek & Aramaic , is not the same as English. So If The Strong's Concordance shows the correct reading from the originals; as Eve was seduced by Satan, then that is the correct reading.
nathan, did satan have sex with eve?
abel was of adam but cain was satan's seed?
or have you outgrown that teaching?

are the anglo-commonwealth nations true israel?
 
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nathan3

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nathan, did satan have sex with eve?
abel was of adam but cain was satan's seed?
or have you outgrown that teaching?

are the anglo-commonwealth nations true israel?
I have no clue what your talking about anglo-commonwhatever.

You answer my questions that I asked. then I will answer yours. Until then. That is for me to know. And you to stumble in the dark about. If that is what your so inclined to do.
 
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