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Hello Is. I followed up on the story in your link earlier this week, watched a few videos, such a sad situation, I am so sorry for that beautiful little girl and the loss her family suffered at the hands of he who stole her life from her while her mother went for a walk... sometimes the evil in this world seems too much to take, and especially only all the more so when it is so brutally visited upon the very young and those who have no natural defences. Still I do believe that if such a person or persons were to repent and believe in Jesus, they would be accepted into the kingdom. There is no sin too great or too small that Jesus' propitiatory sacrifice on our behalf cannot cover... and we have all fallen short. Only the sin of blasphemy is unforgivable: unbelief.
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How much does God know about us? My answer is everything. He knows of our intents/motives. He knows if we are repenting, or not. What stumbling blocks we cross, where when we did fall..did we rejoice in doing the sin, or did we tear off our clothes and throw ourselves to the ground in shame. Yet it is written that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, is unforgivable! This makes me want to stop, and think, to see if there is a connection between hurting a little one, and blasphemy!
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I have no idea of what you're talking about "her mother went for a walk". I have copies of her mother and her mother's boyfriends appeal trials in PDF, will send them to you so you will ahve a better idea of what you're talking about.
Jesus's words don't sound to me like He intends forgiveness since He says it would be better if they were drowned.
One of the trial vids, I am not sure if it was the dad's victim impact statement, or simply a reporting of trial procedures and testimony (I did watch three or four of the relative videos on youtube), said at one point that the mom left the house to go for a walk while her boyfriend went upstairs. It was believed she thought she would not be held responsible if she were not present while her boyfriend violated that helpless little girl... and as I said, I am very sorry this happened. I cannot imagine the pain of losing one so young, beautiful, and innocent, in such a heinous manner.
That is true, and if such a person as those had any conscience at all, I would wonder how they could live with themselves having committed such atrocities, or stood idly by and allowed them to happen. I lost three children, but under completely different circumstances. Before I came to belief I went through periods where I was in a state of mind where I just wanted to put a bullet through it to stop all the deprecatory thinking, the interminable self condemnations, and negative self assessments, feeling an utter failure in life and unworthy of being loved by anyone. I discovered that God loves unconditionally, despite all our faults and failings. There is no sin He does not forgive but that of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Scripture also says, there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. If our names are written in the Lamb's book of life, we are judged by our works on His behalf, not on what we did in the flesh, or before we repented and came to belief. I understand how difficult it is to forgive those who have harmed those we hold dear. I am truly sorry such horror and devastation was visited upon that little girl and all who held her sweet life in their heart of hearts.
That is true, and if such a person as those had any conscience at all, I would wonder how they could live with themselves having committed such atrocities, or stood idly by and allowed them to happen. I lost three children, but under completely different circumstances. Before I came to belief I went through periods where I was in a state of mind where I just wanted to put a bullet through it to stop all the deprecatory thinking, the interminable self condemnations, and negative self assessments, feeling an utter failure in life and unworthy of being loved by anyone. I discovered that God loves unconditionally, despite all our faults and failings. There is no sin He does not forgive but that of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Scripture also says, there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. If our names are written in the Lamb's book of life, we are judged by our works on His behalf, not on what we did in the flesh, or before we repented and came to belief. I understand how difficult it is to forgive those who have harmed those we hold dear. I am truly sorry such horror and devastation was visited upon that little girl and all who held her sweet life in their heart of hearts.
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:ty: for the love
that you've shared in this life
my brethren my brother
:smoke: certainly ....
:smoke: we hope so . ..
For
it is not up to us
8) to judge that
:hihihi: because
if one of these little ones which believe in
our lord jesus christ and to his works and his teachings of faith
could forgive those people who offended them
then we presumed they were luckiest corrupted by evil things
within this reality . . ..
for it is written
:read:
Matthew 6:14
“For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father shall also forgive you.
15 “But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither shall your Father forgive your trespasses.
* TH 1998 version
Matthew: 6. 14. For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15. But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
† KJV version
~:› REMEMBER THAT THIS WORDS ARE NOT OURS
BUT UNTO
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF
OUR LORD GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY
WHO IS GOOD AND DOESN'T LIE
THE MESSIAH
OUR LORD JESUS CHRISTWHO IS OUR SAVIOUR WHEN THE TIME COMES . ...
~:» And by doing this so
you will have all the time
in heaven with your loveones . ...
God bless us all always
that you've shared in this life
my brethren my brother
:smoke: certainly ....
:smoke: we hope so . ..
For
it is not up to us 8) to judge that
:hihihi: because
if one of these little ones which believe in
our lord jesus christ and to his works and his teachings of faith
could forgive those people who offended them
then we presumed they were luckiest corrupted by evil things
within this reality . . ..
for it is written
:read:
Matthew 6:14
“For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father shall also forgive you.
15 “But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither shall your Father forgive your trespasses.
* TH 1998 version
Matthew: 6. 14. For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15. But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
† KJV version
~:› REMEMBER THAT THIS WORDS ARE NOT OURS
BUT UNTO
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF
OUR LORD GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY
WHO IS GOOD AND DOESN'T LIE
THE MESSIAH
OUR LORD JESUS CHRISTWHO IS OUR SAVIOUR WHEN THE TIME COMES . ...
~:» And by doing this so
you will have all the time
in heaven with your loveones . ...
God bless us all always
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At the risk of being described as unfeeling let me point out that Jesus' words had nothing to do with murder. His concern was of those young ones who believed in Him being 'caused to stumble'. He was stressing the preciousness to God of the faith of the young, and how God watched over them. And His description was 'overkill'. He was warning us all about our need to be tender with the faith of the young, and not to put obstacles in their way.
Today thousands of children who believe in Him are dying of hunger EVERY DAY. Thousand are being slaughtered in the Middle East. All these WE are responsible for as we stand by and do nothing. If there is no forgiveness then where do we stand? As Jesus said, ALL THINGS can be forgiven men ---. Thank God.
Today thousands of children who believe in Him are dying of hunger EVERY DAY. Thousand are being slaughtered in the Middle East. All these WE are responsible for as we stand by and do nothing. If there is no forgiveness then where do we stand? As Jesus said, ALL THINGS can be forgiven men ---. Thank God.
T
I've been doing a bible study and we touched on this scripture. Actually, Matthew 18: 1-11 brought healing and encouragement to me. These scriptures speak to child victimization. In Matthew 18:6, it says that Christ avenges the abuse or victimization of children. He hates victimization. If we have been victimized in anyway, we can trust that God will take care of it. We don 't have to avenge ourselves. He saw everything that was done to us. He suffered with us and He desires to heal the brokenhearted.
He commands us to forgive our abusers and others, so that we can be set free. Choosing not to forgive keep us in bondage and harms us not the other person. I believe that God forgives an abuser who repents, but they will still have to suffer consequences for their sins. Yes, woe to them. Everyone reaps what they sow.
He commands us to forgive our abusers and others, so that we can be set free. Choosing not to forgive keep us in bondage and harms us not the other person. I believe that God forgives an abuser who repents, but they will still have to suffer consequences for their sins. Yes, woe to them. Everyone reaps what they sow.
Jesus DID say that, BUT don't forget about grace..... ya know, the subject that dozens have been arguing over lately?
BTW, about that blasphemy.....
Matthew 12:31-32 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. [SUP]32 [/SUP]And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
It's all in da Book.
BTW, about that blasphemy.....
Matthew 12:31-32 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. [SUP]32 [/SUP]And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
It's all in da Book.
Jesus DID say that, BUT don't forget about grace..... ya know, the subject that dozens have been arguing over lately?
BTW, about that blasphemy.....
Matthew 12:31-32 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. [SUP]32 [/SUP]And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
It's all in da Book.
BTW, about that blasphemy.....
Matthew 12:31-32 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. [SUP]32 [/SUP]And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
It's all in da Book.