Is There Grace in Having Hope?
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recieve Christs offer of salvation in faith.”
Is Christs offer of salvstion what he said it is ?
“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
Mark 1:14-15
“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
Luke 13:3
“I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
Luke 5:32 KJV
“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.”
Acts 17:30-31 KJV
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
John 12:48
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
When you all are talking about believing Christs offer of salvation are you saying you have to accept the offer Jesus made to save us ? Or saying “ just believe your saved by grace “?
when your saying saved by grace it means your saved by the gospel that teaches us to repent and live upright lives in this world
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
Titus 2:11-15
Gods grace teaches repentance , and righteousness and becoming zealous of good works it doesn’t erase all those things Jesus taught just as Paul taught that if we don’t repent and start living right we’re not going to inherit salvation in the kingdom
“For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.”
Ephesians 5:5 KJV
“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
Galatians 5:19-21
when your saying believe are you saying believe what’s actually there that’s going to bring us to repentance and right living ?
Is Christs offer of salvstion what he said it is ?
“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
Mark 1:14-15
“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
Luke 13:3
“I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
Luke 5:32 KJV
“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.”
Acts 17:30-31 KJV
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
John 12:48
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
When you all are talking about believing Christs offer of salvation are you saying you have to accept the offer Jesus made to save us ? Or saying “ just believe your saved by grace “?
when your saying saved by grace it means your saved by the gospel that teaches us to repent and live upright lives in this world
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
Titus 2:11-15
Gods grace teaches repentance , and righteousness and becoming zealous of good works it doesn’t erase all those things Jesus taught just as Paul taught that if we don’t repent and start living right we’re not going to inherit salvation in the kingdom
“For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.”
Ephesians 5:5 KJV
“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
Galatians 5:19-21
when your saying believe are you saying believe what’s actually there that’s going to bring us to repentance and right living ?
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“By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house;
by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.”
Hebrews 11:7
God told Noah “ the world is about to be flooded and destroyed build the ark and I’ll begin again with you and your family “
Noah believed what God said was going to happen even though he couldn’t see it happening he knew it was true because he heard Gods word and believed so his actions were the fruit of his belief he did what God said would save him because he believed
the evidence of Noah’s faith was him
Moving in fear as if he believed what God said and so he was saved by faith.
he heard this
“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
Romans 10:17 KJV
and believed that was his evidence of the unseen “ God said it it’s for sure even though I don’t see it “
This leaves Noah in a place where he knows if I do what God said I’ll be saved like he said. He acted on Gods word before the physical proof came of the flood that’s what faith is God tells us something and we believe it even though we have no human level of proof we believe things we can’t prove because we believe in Jesus who said it we believe his word is true beforehand and so we respond in faith
the evidence of the unseen is to hear what he said was going to happen and believe it the actions are just a by product of the belief . If Noah heard God earn him of the flood d ignored it , d didn’t build the ark as commanded , it would have proven he didn’t believe God
but he did believe and it saved him just taking Gods word as the evidence that mattered to him
if we can see the power of Gods word over everything and how it’s always came to pass like he said the fruit , the flood , the law ect it’s always happened just like he said it would beforehand then it happened
if we can take the gospel like that it’s salvation and all the evidence we need is to see how he’s always said wha to gonna happen d then it does later that’s evidence beforehand he’s always right if we could accept it there’s faith
by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.”
Hebrews 11:7
God told Noah “ the world is about to be flooded and destroyed build the ark and I’ll begin again with you and your family “
Noah believed what God said was going to happen even though he couldn’t see it happening he knew it was true because he heard Gods word and believed so his actions were the fruit of his belief he did what God said would save him because he believed
the evidence of Noah’s faith was him
Moving in fear as if he believed what God said and so he was saved by faith.
he heard this
“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
Romans 10:17 KJV
and believed that was his evidence of the unseen “ God said it it’s for sure even though I don’t see it “
This leaves Noah in a place where he knows if I do what God said I’ll be saved like he said. He acted on Gods word before the physical proof came of the flood that’s what faith is God tells us something and we believe it even though we have no human level of proof we believe things we can’t prove because we believe in Jesus who said it we believe his word is true beforehand and so we respond in faith
the evidence of the unseen is to hear what he said was going to happen and believe it the actions are just a by product of the belief . If Noah heard God earn him of the flood d ignored it , d didn’t build the ark as commanded , it would have proven he didn’t believe God
but he did believe and it saved him just taking Gods word as the evidence that mattered to him
if we can see the power of Gods word over everything and how it’s always came to pass like he said the fruit , the flood , the law ect it’s always happened just like he said it would beforehand then it happened
if we can take the gospel like that it’s salvation and all the evidence we need is to see how he’s always said wha to gonna happen d then it does later that’s evidence beforehand he’s always right if we could accept it there’s faith
then he comes under Human Faith which is no good for Salvation -----as Human Faith is believing in what you see --hear---feel ---taste and touch ------- Saving Faith is believing in the unseen trusting God's Word and believing it will produce what it says ----you don't see Jesus today ---so you either believe in the unseen Jesus and what He accomplished on the cross or you doubt that Jesus really
You are not to doubt in what God's word says about how to receive salvation -------if you doubt then like Thomas your have wavering Faith and you can't be in Doubt and in Belief at the same time ---
KJV Dictionary Definition: doubt
To waver or fluctuate in opinion; to hesitate; to be in suspense; to be in uncertainty; to be in suspense; to be in uncertainty, respecting the truth or fact; to be undetermined.
To question, or hold questionable; to withhold assent from; to hesitate to believe; as, I have heard the story, but I doubt the truth of it.
A fluctuation of mind respecting truth or propriety, arising from defect of knowledge or evidence; uncertainty of mind; suspense; unsettled state of opinion;
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Jesus said your either with me or against me ----there is no inbetween -----you either believe that you need the right faith to be saved or you Doubt it ------
You are not to doubt in what God's word says about how to receive salvation -------if you doubt then like Thomas your have wavering Faith and you can't be in Doubt and in Belief at the same time ---
KJV Dictionary Definition: doubt
To waver or fluctuate in opinion; to hesitate; to be in suspense; to be in uncertainty; to be in suspense; to be in uncertainty, respecting the truth or fact; to be undetermined.
To question, or hold questionable; to withhold assent from; to hesitate to believe; as, I have heard the story, but I doubt the truth of it.
A fluctuation of mind respecting truth or propriety, arising from defect of knowledge or evidence; uncertainty of mind; suspense; unsettled state of opinion;
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Jesus said your either with me or against me ----there is no inbetween -----you either believe that you need the right faith to be saved or you Doubt it ------
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every one of us have been reading the Bible and come to a portion where the miraculous took place and have had that little voice tell us, surely you aren't falling for this? doubt is normal. doubt is what helps our Faith grow stronger. but this man seems to have applied the entire Word of God to doubt. he found no Truth to it from cover to cover. that is a very sad place to be. in fact, that is where atheist exist at. but even worse than that, he had access to the Truth and still refused to accept it. Grace is for Believers.
in my life, i have the Bible and what it tells me. but more than that, i have a lifetime of personal experiences where i know it could only be God who intervened. once i Believed and was Saved, God began revealing Himself to me in so many ways i cannot doubt Him. this man clearly did not have that. clearly, he never believed in the first place.
in my life, i have the Bible and what it tells me. but more than that, i have a lifetime of personal experiences where i know it could only be God who intervened. once i Believed and was Saved, God began revealing Himself to me in so many ways i cannot doubt Him. this man clearly did not have that. clearly, he never believed in the first place.
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Re: Is There Grace in Having Hope?
The New Testament's hope is a calling.
• Eph 4:4 . .You were also called to the one hope
The Greek word translated "hope" is elpis (el pece') which means to
anticipate (usually with pleasure) and to expect with confidence. Note the
elements of anticipation, expectation, and confidence. In other words: elpis
hope is a know-so hope rather than cross-your-fingers wishful thinking.
• Rom 12:12 . . Rejoice in hope.
When people are praying for the best, while in the back of their mind
dreading the worst, they have absolutely no cause for rejoicing; but they do
have plenty of reason to fear the unknown.
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Re: Is There Grace in Having Hope?
The New Testament's hope is a calling.
• Eph 4:4 . .You were also called to the one hope
The Greek word translated "hope" is elpis (el pece') which means to
anticipate (usually with pleasure) and to expect with confidence. Note the
elements of anticipation, expectation, and confidence. In other words: elpis
hope is a know-so hope rather than cross-your-fingers wishful thinking.
• Rom 12:12 . . Rejoice in hope.
When people are praying for the best, while in the back of their mind
dreading the worst, they have absolutely no cause for rejoicing; but they do
have plenty of reason to fear the unknown.
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If a man dies will he live again? (Job 14:14)
Folks like Job are attuned to nature. He was a very successful rancher; a guy
who made his living working outdoors.
Every year Job watched things die in the Fall and come back in the Spring. If
only human life were like that; but alas, when people die they typically don't
regenerate like the new leaves on a dormant maple tree and/or new sprouts
of green grass from the roots.
• Rom 8:20-25 . . For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but
because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will
be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the
children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with
birth pangs together until now.
. . . Not only that, but we also who have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we
ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption-- the
redemption of our body. For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is
seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? But if we
hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.
The "hope" spoken of in that passage is translated from the Greek word elpis
(el-pece') which is very different than crossing one's fingers and praying for
the best. It's a know-so kind of hope that-- in this case --confidently
anticipates obtaining a fresh, brand new body. Folks lacking elpis hope really
don't know for sure what to expect down the road.
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If a man dies will he live again? (Job 14:14)
Folks like Job are attuned to nature. He was a very successful rancher; a guy
who made his living working outdoors.
Every year Job watched things die in the Fall and come back in the Spring. If
only human life were like that; but alas, when people die they typically don't
regenerate like the new leaves on a dormant maple tree and/or new sprouts
of green grass from the roots.
• Rom 8:20-25 . . For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but
because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will
be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the
children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with
birth pangs together until now.
. . . Not only that, but we also who have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we
ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption-- the
redemption of our body. For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is
seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? But if we
hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.
The "hope" spoken of in that passage is translated from the Greek word elpis
(el-pece') which is very different than crossing one's fingers and praying for
the best. It's a know-so kind of hope that-- in this case --confidently
anticipates obtaining a fresh, brand new body. Folks lacking elpis hope really
don't know for sure what to expect down the road.
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God's grace is available to everyone. Titus 2:11 says so.
However, from all you've posted, the man DIDN'T BELIEVE who Jesus was. "openly admitted that he did not believe what is written about Jesus". That nails it.
btw, why in the world didn't the pastor remove him from his church? A "church LEADER", you say. He had no right to be in any position of authority in any church.
For someone to say "they want to believe" is bogus. Believing is a trust issue. One either trusts or they don't. He has no excuse.
However, from all you've posted, the man DIDN'T BELIEVE who Jesus was. "openly admitted that he did not believe what is written about Jesus". That nails it.
btw, why in the world didn't the pastor remove him from his church? A "church LEADER", you say. He had no right to be in any position of authority in any church.
For someone to say "they want to believe" is bogus. Believing is a trust issue. One either trusts or they don't. He has no excuse.
English Standard Version
John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”
Why should we believe any different than this? Our own righteousness will not save us. No other scriptures will justify us.
John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”
Why should we believe any different than this? Our own righteousness will not save us. No other scriptures will justify us.
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The man wasn’t a radical, hateful atheist who’s desire was to crush the church; he loved the congregation and it’s members. He had a servant’s heart and an educational background that made him ideal to be on the property committee as well as helping with other tangibles.
Our pastor felt it was good for him to be involved. The more time he spent with church members the better chance of a seed taking root. Common sense, really.
Our pastor felt it was good for him to be involved. The more time he spent with church members the better chance of a seed taking root. Common sense, really.
Hope and faith are very close however, the word of God is clear that
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
Heb 11:6
Jesus is not the mean taskmaster. Trying to hold the proverbial carrots before the cart. Jesus said come to me in faith, and I will reveal myself to you. Jesus is not a lier. I have found those who say they have searched, prayed, hoped, and yearned for but then say they still doubted and have never had faith that saves. "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. "
I have faith Jesu died was buried and has risen again. My hope is he will return soon, but If I say that and then say I doubt it, that is not faith or hope.
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
Heb 11:6
Jesus is not the mean taskmaster. Trying to hold the proverbial carrots before the cart. Jesus said come to me in faith, and I will reveal myself to you. Jesus is not a lier. I have found those who say they have searched, prayed, hoped, and yearned for but then say they still doubted and have never had faith that saves. "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. "
I have faith Jesu died was buried and has risen again. My hope is he will return soon, but If I say that and then say I doubt it, that is not faith or hope.
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