ISRAEL RE-ESTABLISHED

journey41 · Oct 10, 2011

The more the 1000 year kingdom is refuted and passed off as lies, the more I will give proof from the holy scriptures.....

Where shall we begin?

Isaiah 60:13 The glory of Lebanon shall come onto thee, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together, to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious.

THE NATIONS WILL HONOUR ISRAEL
Isaiah 60:14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the Lord, The Zion of the Holy one of Israel.

Isaiah 60:15 Whereas thou has been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.

THE SAINTS WILL ALSO TEACH IN THE KINGDOM
Isaiah 60:16 Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty one of Jacob.

ALL THE PRECIOUS THINGS THE WORLD HAS ACQUIRED WILL BE GATHERED AND BROUGHT INTO THE KINGDOM
Isaiah 60:17 For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood brass, and for stones iron: I will also make thy officers peace, and thine exactors righteousness.

NO MORE WAR IN ISRAEL
Isaiah 60:18 Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls salvation, and thy gates Praise.

THIS NATION IS RE-BUILT FOR GODS GLORY (not mans)
Isaiah 60:21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.

THEY WILL MULTIPLY IN THE KINGDOM
Isaiah 60:22 A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the Lord will hasten it in his time.

THE LAND OF ISRAEL WILL BE CLEANED UP
Isaiah 61:4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.

WHATS THIS? OUTSIDERS COMING IN TO THE KINGDOM TO LABOUR FOR THEM
Isaiah 61:5 And strangers stall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.

THE ISRAELITES WHO ARE TAUGHT WILL PREACH TO THE NATIONS. THIS IS WHY KNOWLEDGE WILL INCREASE, ALL THE TEACHERS ARE IN THE KINGDOM SPREADING OUT THE TRUTH
Isaiah 61:6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the Lord: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.

THEY WERE PUNISHED BUT FOR THEIR SUFFERING THEY WILL BE BLESSED DOUBLE.
Isaiah 61:7 For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be on to them.

THE EVERLASTING COVENANT IS FINALY MADE WITH THEM
Isaiah 61:8 For I the Lord love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.

THEY WILL BE KNOWN AMONG THE GENTILES (OUTSIDERS)
Isaiah 61:9 And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the Lord has blessed.

Isaiah 61:11 For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden causes the things that are sown in it to spring forth; so the Lord God will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.

eternally-gratefull · Oct 10, 2011

good post. Some people will not see it though. They seem to want to take israels place. and reject the promises God made to his people. And his promise to return them after they have repented.

AnandaHya · Oct 10, 2011

new earth ONE tree/covenant not 2

revelations 21
24 And the nations of those who are saved[l] shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it.[m] 25 Its gates shall not be shut at all by day (there shall be no night there). 26 And they shall bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it.[n] 27 But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes[o] an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.

Jesus reigns Now with His saints.

damombomb · Oct 10, 2011

Rev22:3 For there shall be no more curse; but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him;4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle,niether
light of the sun, for theLord God giveth them light:and they shall reign with him forever.

If we are reining with him now,how come there is stiil a curse and how come the glory of God (light) is not replacing night? There shall be no more night there, or curse!
This will be on the new earth,not this old one,there shall be a new heaven and a new earth(where is the throne of God and the Lamb,do we see his face right now?
Rev21;1And I saw a new heave and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;AND THERE WAS NO MOR SEA

ada · Oct 10, 2011

Wishful thinking of judeo christianity letting Jesus out of their bill!
Judaism is antichrist! Has nothing to do with the Gospel.
On the contrary its the destroyer cause its father is the devil.
Fleshly israel is a counterfeit and is diametrical apposed to the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

journey41 · Oct 11, 2011

eternally-gratefull said:

[/QUOTE]Thankyou EG. Many must realise that these Jews are not all of Israel, but only a select number that God has chosen and reserved. When the 1000 year reign starts then all those chosen to live there will multiply and all of them - that whole house of Israel will be saved. That house only, in the kingdom. They will be taught by the lamb. They will know more than we do now. They wont have all these religions and doctrines, and confusion, but one truth only. The wicked Israelites will not be chosen to enter. Their sacrifices were not accepted.

Peter on this site says that we are giving them false hope and that is not so, It would be wrong to for one to say, I am a Jew and It is my right to live in the kingdom, I am a chosen one. It's only if God has chosen you and your sacrifices were accepted in the old times and you did not have the opportunity to know the Lamb.

If any Israelite is following Christ now then he will be a saint and be raised spirit instead of flesh.

So then the whole house of Israel will join as one. The flesh ones and the saints - all will be one under the same banner - Christ, the King. All will have the same Lord and same truth.

Thankyou EG.

journey41 · Oct 11, 2011

What is so Antichrist about the Word of the Lord? Maybe you missed these scriptures or somebody told you not to believe it and you trusted them? This is not religion, this is from the holy bible, straight from God. Most of the prophesies are in the Old Testament. Can't just read the new and forget about the old. Plenty of solid food in there. Please consider these scriptures;

EZEKIEL WAS TAKEN IN THE SPIRIT AND GIVEN A VISION. HE WAS TOLD TO PROPHESY
Ezekiel 37:1 The hand of the Lord was apon me, and carried me out in to the spirit of the Lord, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones.

Ezekiel 37:2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley, and, lo they were very dry.

Ezekiel 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of Man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord God thou knowest.

Ezekiel 37:4 Again he said unto me, prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the world of the Lord

THE LORD COMMANDS THAT HE WILL PUT THE BREATH OF LIFE BACK INTO THEM
Ezekiel 37:5 Thus saith the Lord God unto these bones; behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live

AND WILL PUT FLESH BACK UPON THEM, AND THEY SHALL LIVE
Ezekiel 37:6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live, and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

SO GOD PUTS THEIR BONES TOGETHER FIRST
Eekiel 37:7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and Behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.

NOW THE SINEWS, THE FLESH AND THE SKIN
Ezekiel 37:8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.

NOW THE BREATH OF LIFE
Ezekiel 37:10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

WHO ARE THESE PARTICULAR DEAD ONES
Ezekiel 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

WHAT, OPEN THEIR GRAVES, PUT FLESH, & SKIN ON THEM, & PUT THE BREATH OF LIFE IN THEM.....AND WHAT? ..... BRING THEM INTO THE LAND OF ISRAEL
Ezekiel 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

.....and bring you into the land of Israel.

The land of Israel, not heaven....these are dead dont forget. not alive, not about to be born, but lived and died. DEAD.

They will be raised and brought back into the kingdom of God, for the 1000 year reign, and will know the Lord. But they will be in the flesh, and the gentiles will be in the spirit. All living as one. One truth. One King.

Ezekiel 37:13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves O my people, and brought you up out of your graves.

READ AGAIN,... GOD REPEATS IN-CASE WE DOUBTED THE FIRST TIME

Ezekiel 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I am the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, said the Lord.

THIS IS ALL FOR GOD'S NAME SAKE AND HIS GLORY. THERE WILL BE NATION THAT WILL BE TAUGHT BY THE LAMB AND THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT OF ZION, AND THEY WILL BE AN EXAMPLE TO ALL THE NATIONS AROUND BUT THIS TIME, NOT UNDER THE LAW, BUT WITH THE LAMB LEADING, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Please consider carefully. I'm just trying to help.

AnandaHya · Oct 11, 2011

damombomb said:

mmm that happens AFTER Satan's little season. 1000 year reign passage happens BEFORE and maybe even during Satan's little season in HEAVEN.

could address the OT text used but no one is listening so why bother?

journey41 · Oct 11, 2011

damombomb said:

Rev22:3 For there shall be no more curse; but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him;4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle,niether
light of the sun, for theLord God giveth them light:and they shall reign with him forever.

If we are reining with him now,how come there is stiil a curse and how come the glory of God (light) is not replacing night? There shall be no more night there, or curse!
This will be on the new earth,not this old one,there shall be a new heaven and a new earth(where is the throne of God and the Lamb,do we see his face right now?
Rev21;1And I saw a new heave and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;AND THERE WAS NO MOR SEA

Yes exactly. Good point.

damombomb · Oct 11, 2011

Rev7:3-8 talks about the 144,ooo,
right after Rev7:9 is the innumerable mutitude around the throne
Rev15 Therfore they are they before the throne of God, these are those who came out of great tribulation,and were given white robes

Abiding · Oct 11, 2011

Its tough folks. If your premil...everything thing looks future. And some in millinium.

If your amil...everything looks fulfilled in Christ and parts in the eternal state.

Im not sure why contention ever arises. With me i try to find the truth. Some say they were
taught by the Holyspirit the truth on this matter. I say He taught us to study. And i have close friends
that have opposing views. Although debating is fun, if its respectful. And can help in learning
its not even profitable if it gets to where it causes divisive emotions. I recommend we pay each
other respect for each others labor in study and be open to see the other sides view. And
expect disagreement, that what discussions are for.

Grandpa · Oct 11, 2011

I love that part of Ezekiel, chapter 37. It is the old testament and is a type and a shadow of things to come. I believe Ezekiel is prophesying on how believers in Jesus Christ are born again. They are spiritually dead but when they are born again in Christ they recieve the "breath of Life". Their hearts of stone will be replaced with hearts of flesh. They become Spiritually Alive in Christ.

They will be brought into the land of Israel. Spiritual Israel. The Lord Jesus said that His Kingdom is not here but it is above. The people that are born again are being led to spiritual Israel where the Lords Kingdom is.

This great army what is it fighting? The Lord says that we battle not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities. Spiritual war.

Jesus Christ teaches us that it is the Spirit we must follow after. It is the Spirit in which we have victory. The Lord says the flesh is enmity against GOD.

I believe this prophesy is happening NOW, in the life of believers in Jesus Christ. Jesus says seek the Kingdom of God. This is a spiritual kingdom. The Lords word is spiritually discerned. Those with ears, let them hear.

God Bless You

Crossfire · Oct 11, 2011

Abiding said:

Any student of the Bible knows that History always repeats itself. What was past almost always points towards something in the future.

Regardless of what type of eschotology you subscribe to, scripture teaches that Jesus is going to return at the end of the Great Commission. It makes perfect sense to me that are there both Old Testament and New Testament prophesies that remain yet to be fulfilled (and there are several) which point toward the second coming Christ. This fact not one person on the board can truthfully deny.

journey41 · Oct 11, 2011

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[/QUOTE]Yes, but there is a difference in events. There is the promise to the gentiles who convert to Christ, and another to the nation called by his name - ISRAEL.

When the fullness of the gentiles come in, Israel will then come in last. This will not happen until Christ's second coming, as they have been stubborn the whole time by rejecting their Messiah and doing abominations. This is why they have been punished and then provoked to jealousy. But after God has punished them, and dealt with them, they will be reconciled to God and brought back in the flesh. Only the reserved. Not all Israelites.

The gentiles will be resurrected in spirit. The Israelites in the flesh. Big difference, but both will serve the Lord and the Lamb will feed them with the truth.

THIS IS TALKING ABOUT ISRAEL.
Isaiah 1:9 Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and should have been like unto Gomorrah

Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, said the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

ISRAEL STRAYED - BUT WILL BE REDEEMED
Isaiah 1:26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counselors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.

Isaiah 1:27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgement, and her converts with righteousness.

CONCERNING JUDAH AND JERUSALEM.....
Isaiah 2:1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning JUDAH and JERUSALEM.

THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED.
Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lords house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills, and all nations shall flow unto it.

Isaiah 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

WHEN THE LORD COMES THERE WILL BE NATIONS STILL EXISTING
Isaiah 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore

Jeremiah 31:1 At the same time, saith the Lord, will I be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be my people.

Jeremiah 31:2 Thus saith the Lord, The people which were left of the sword found grace int he wilderness; even Israel, when I went to cause him to rest.

GOD HAS LOVED ISRAEL WITH AN EVERLASTING LOVE
Jeremiah 31:3 The Lord has appeared of old unto me, saying Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with loving kindness have i drawn thee.

Jeremiah 31:4 Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel: thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, and shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry.

Jeremiah 31:5 Thou shalt yet plant vines upon the mountains of Samaria: the planters shall plant, and shall eat them as common things.

Jeremiah 31:6 For there shall be a day that the watchmen, upon the mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the Lord our God

Jeremiah 31:7 For thus said the Lord; Sing with gladness for Jacob, and shout among the chief of the nations: publish ye, praise ye, and say, O Lord, save thy people, the remnant of Israel.

Jeremiah 31:8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.

Jeremiah 31:9 They shall come with weeping and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborm.

Jeremiah 31:10 Hear the word of the Lord, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd does his flock.

Jeremiah 31:11 For the Lord has redeemed Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he.

Jeremiah 31:12 Therefore they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow together to the goodness of the Lord, for wheat, and for wine, and for oil, and for the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all.

Dont just trust what I say, look up these verses. These are prophesies. Not symbolic.

Grandpa · Oct 13, 2011

journey41 said:

Why is there a difference between resurrection of gentiles and resurrection of Israelites? Do you think the Old Testament does not pertain to gentiles?

Mark 12: 1-12 1And he began to speak unto them by parables. A certain man planted a vineyard, and set an hedge about it, and digged a place for the winefat, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country.

2And at the season he sent to the husbandmen a servant, that he might receive from the husbandmen of the fruit of the vineyard.
3And they caught him, and beat him, and sent him away empty.
4And again he sent unto them another servant; and at him they cast stones, and wounded him in the head, and sent him away shamefully handled.
5And again he sent another; and him they killed, and many others; beating some, and killing some.
6Having yet therefore one son, his wellbeloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son.
7But those husbandmen said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours.'
8And they took him, and killed him, and cast him out of the vineyard.
9What shall therefore the lord of the vineyard do? he will come and destroy the husbandmen, and will give the vineyard unto others.
10And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:
11This was the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 12And they sought to lay hold on him, but feared the people: for they knew that he had spoken the parable against them: and they left him, and went their way.

I believe the scriptures are for all of us right now. I don't believe there is a difference between Jew and Gentile in the New Covenant. I believe the Old Testament is types and shadows and points to the Lord Jesus Christ.

The parts of the old testament that you think have not happened and will happen down here on earth, I believe they have already happened just not down here.

John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

journey41 · Oct 13, 2011

Grandpa said:

Yes the old testament does pertain to gentiles as well, but we have to discern when he is talking to his people Israel, and making promises to them.

If this has happened already, but not down here, then where?

I've given scriptures, what more can I do? I can only guide to where it's written. I cant change anyones mind. The scriptures are here, one can take it or leave it.

Jeremiah 50:19 And I will bring Israel again to his habitation, and he shall feed on Carmel and Bashan, and his soul shall be satisfied upon mount Ephraim and Gilead.

Jeremiah 50:20 In those days, and in that time, saith the Lord, the iniquity of Israel shall be sought for, and there shall be none, and the sins of Judah, and they shall not be found: for I will pardon them whom I reserve.

Jeremiah 33:11 The voice of joy, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voie of the bride, the voice of them that shall say, Praise the Lord of hosts: for the Lord is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: and of them that shall bring the sacrifice of praise into the house of the Lord. For I will cause to return the captivity of the land, as at first, saith the Lord.

Jeremiah 33:12 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Again in this place, which is desolate without man and without beast, and in all the cities thereof, shall be a habitation of shepherds causing their flocks to lie down.
Israel will be destroyed during the great war before Christ's return. Then cleaned up on Christ's arrival. (2nd coming)

Jeremiah 33:13 In the cities of the mountains, in the cities of the vale, and in the cities of the south, and in the land of Benjamin, and in the places about Jerusalem, and in the cities of Judah, shall the flocks pass again under the hands of him that tells them, said the Lord.

Jeremiah 33:14 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.

Jeremiah 33:15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righeousness to grow up unto David, and he shall execute judgement and righteousness in the land.
Remember Jesus did not come to judge the first time he came, but to shed light to the world. He executes judgement at his 2nd coming.

Jeremiah 33:16 In those days, shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.
Has this ever happened? Jerusalem dwelling safely? They have always had war. Always.

.....Thy Kingdom Come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven....

Abiding · Oct 13, 2011

Crossfire said:

That is very true....im sitting right now out of the dispypretrib camp.
I think the repeat thing is a hoax(although i agree that some prophecies have double fulfillment)..I think ill end up amil.
Because im not sure this repeat is from God..although all things work out according to His own will and good pleasure.

I havnt had time to study my finals on this...and wont let it be a dividing issue.
I think i could publish a better pretrib/premil book than most here. But i got
bugged out last fall and had to reexamine things.....so....im still processing.

Yet when im finished and able to think i can take a stand and lets say im amil
unless i can find something vital and important or dangerious to a believers
walk ill probably still not divide over it.

My only concern is that most dispys seem to have little compassion to the carnage
in the wars we fight in the name of zionism. That makes me truly sad.

Grandpa · Oct 13, 2011

journey41 said:

I believe we are His people Israel. When people came in and said to Jesus "your brothers and mother are outside wanting to talk to you" what did Jesus say?

Mark 3:33-35 33And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

34And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 35For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

In the Kingdom of God.

Yes, I've done the same.

Jeremiah 33:15,16 15In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.
16In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.

That verse doesn't say the second time. It says at that time. The Lord has executed Judgement and Righteousness in the land. Jerusalem dwells safely now. Not the one you are thinking of. More like this one:

Psalm 23 4-6 4Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

The one that is spiritually discerned.

journey41 · Oct 14, 2011

Grandpa said:

John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

The first time Christ came he didn't judge. But Jeremiah said he's coming and will execute judgement, so this time frame is talking about his second coming, as it says "in those days, and "at that time"

then in those same days.....you quoted

It doesn't have to say the second time, we work it out. Christ came to save the first time, and the second time he comes to judge.

Jerusalem has never dwelt safely. They have always been on alert of an attack and they have always been attacked. Even after the 2nd gathering in 1948 they were attacked. They are completely surrounded by their enemies now. Jerusalem is not safe and if you follow the scriptures, you will notice that they will be attacked again and there is going to be such a great war there as has never happened before. Armegeddon is where the armies assemble. In Israel, outside of Jerusalem. The kings of the Medes will cross over the Euphrates river. There will be 200 million soldiers there in total all fighting each other. The people of Israel will be killed, captured, and scattered. The outside armies will cause total devestation to that whole land. So even though the war is outside Jerusalem, they get attacked first and the city trodden down. So the whole land of Israel will be a ruinous heap. Christ will come and stop the war, or no flesh will be saved and then he will establish his kingdom in Jerusalem.

Isaiah 62:2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

Isaiah 62:3 Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.

Isaiah 62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken, neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the Lord delighteth in the, and thy land shall be married.

Isaiah 62:5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridgegroom rejoices over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.

Isaiah 62:6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the Lord, keep not silence.

Isaiah 62:7 And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.

Yes I love these verses. It's just telling us to be strong, to follow him where ever he goes, through good and bad times, but he is leading us to to God kingdom despite when times seem dark. This verse is about faith. What I am talking about above is the actual physical events that will happen as they were prophesied.

Grandpa · Oct 14, 2011

John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

I see your point of view. However, I differ in that I think that the entire old testament was fulfilled when Jesus Christ died for our sins.

John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

I don't think those old testament verses are talking about physical land here. I think they are referring to the Lords Kingdom.

I think the old testament is shadows and types of what has already come.

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