It is night time.

ladylynn · Jul 17, 2016

Everything in life without Christ is major confusion. It all gets mushed up and mixed up into these off shoots of this idea and that idea., this cause and that cause. Without the love of God in Christ for each individual who can hear the good news, none of this other stuff matters. End times teachings and other Bible teaching without the LOVE of God as shown IN Jesus Christ is nothing. Just like 1 Cor.13 says. We can have allll kinds of doctrines and sacrifices and good works but without God's love in us and for us., it is nothing. I specifically like the way the Amplified Bible puts it. "having love for others growing out of God's love for me" wow! It's about personal love from Jesus., it's about a relationship with Him., a love relationship where He teaches us how.

If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not [SUP][a][/SUP]love [for others growing out of God’s love for me], then I have become only a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal [just an annoying distraction]. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And if I have the gift of prophecy [and speak a new message from God to the people], and understand all mysteries, and [possess] all knowledge; and if I have all [sufficient] faith so that I can remove mountains, but do not have love [reaching out to others], I am nothing. [SUP]3 [/SUP]If I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body [SUP][b][/SUP]to be burned, but do not have love, it does me no good at all.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Love endures with patience and serenity, love is kind and thoughtful, and is not jealous or envious; love does not brag and is not proud or arrogant. [SUP]5 [/SUP]It is not rude; it is not self-seeking, it is not provoked [nor overly sensitive and easily angered]; it does not take into account a wrong endured. [SUP]6 [/SUP]It does not rejoice at injustice, but rejoices with the truth [when right and truth prevail]. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Love bears all things [regardless of what comes], believes all things [looking for the best in each one], hopes all things [remaining steadfast during difficult times], endures all things [without weakening].
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Love never fails [it never fades nor ends]. But as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for the gift of special knowledge, it will pass away. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For we know in part, and we prophesy in part [for our knowledge is fragmentary and incomplete]. [SUP]10 [/SUP]But when that which is complete and perfect comes, that which is incomplete and partial will pass away. [SUP]11 [/SUP]When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For now [in this time of imperfection] we see in a mirror dimly [a blurred reflection, a riddle, an enigma], but then [when the time of perfection comes we will see reality] face to face. Now I know in part [just in fragments], but then I will know fully, just as I have been fully known [by God]. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And now there remain: faith [abiding trust in God and His promises], hope [confident expectation of eternal salvation], love [unselfish love for others growing out of God’s love for me], these three [the choicest graces]; but the greatest of these is love.

thepsalmist · Jul 17, 2016

Yet said:

If you were so enlightened by God and knew all things as your words here imply, then you would know that I don't sit in pulpits,

I really should have known better by now than to reply to a post from "pastor" Yet, I won't make the same mistake again.

You think work cannot be effective anymore because YOUR work has not been effective ... but there might be another reason why THAT is. Who picks figs from thorny bushes?

SteelToedKodiak · Jul 17, 2016

Yet said:

Isaiah 60:2 For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth and gross darkness the people. But the Lord shall rise upon you ( a remnant with oil in their lamps) and His glory shall be seen upon you, ( and disdained).

Daniel 12:4 But you, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end, many (christians) shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Yet never coming to the knowledge of the truth, 2Tim. 3:7

2Thess. 2 A falling away (apostasy) first? The greek: divorce!

and for this cause, receiving not the love of the truth, God will send them (the church) strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

I Thess. 5. He comes as a thief in the NIGHT...DARKNESS....DRUNK IN THE NIGHT....THEY THAT SLEEP, SLEEP IN THE NIGHT!

This is the DARKNESS of an apostate ekklesia that Isaiah 60 speaks to.

To 'fall away' you must be there first. It's the collective 'church' of born again believers that have 'fallen away' into apostasy.

A sleepy eyed look at christendom will prove to you that the one world church of the antichrist is in full throttle. Unity, unity, unity is all you hear anymore. The TRUTH be damned. What fellowship has light with darkness? 2Cor. 6:14. ZERO, NONE!

So if fellowship of all the diverse churches is working out quite well, it's because they all dwell in darkness, just what Isaiah prophesied.

The time has come and has been here for years that the true remnant, that have eyes and ears, and see this fallen ecclesia, can't turn the tide. The night is indeed here where 'no man can work', John 9:4. Work they may but with little results. God's strong delusion has a purpose. To seperate goats from sheep.

It is night time spiritually Yet. The stage is set, the players and portrayers know their parts for the final scene. What is it the Director says "ACTION!".

Th0mas · Jul 17, 2016

1 John 4:1

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Titus 1:16

They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.

Hebrews 13:16

And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.

Proverbs 12:18

The words of the reckless pierce like swords, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.

Proverbs 16:21

The wise in heart are called discerning, and gracious words promote instruction.

Matthew 5:11

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Proverbs 22:10

Drive out the mocker, and out goes strife; quarrels and insults are ended.

Yet · Jul 17, 2016

Matt.7:22-23 proves that the apostsy is not the world but the 'church'.

vic1980 · Jul 17, 2016

Yet said:

It's a Church with false teaching, it bears no fruit, it has it's pleasures in the things of the world and loves the world.

It's a counterfeit ,that twist the truth and Power that God has given His people, and misleads them since they enjoy walking in the flesh, convincing them no matter what you do , you will always be righteous.

This Worldly Church, preaches a different Doctrine, a different Christ.

There no accountability ,in this worldy church , there no power in this church , there no love in this church, there is no sound mind in this counterfeit church. They do not belong to Jesus Christ, they are of the world.

That is why the LORD himself says to them DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

They uphold men instead of holding to the truth that is in Christ.

The Apostle Paul warn of such men...

Shalom

oyster67 · Jul 17, 2016

I am surprised at how comfortable and cozy so many of you feel sitting in the pews of the modern churches these days. The physical church is supposed to be the place that sends missionaries out. From what I have seen, it appears that is a place that we now need to send missionaries into. You might dislike Yet as a person (?), but that does not mean that his message is not true.

You accuse Yet of not getting the message out? The message is one of warning the sheep, and He is doing a much better job than most.

Yet · Jul 17, 2016

Jude ...3 'you should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.'

Yet if one tries to do so today he is pounded on.

4 ' for there are certain men crept in unnoticed who were of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into debauchery, and denying (contradicting) the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.'

Acts 20. Paul warns about wolves birthing the cleric caste.

Jude 8. 'Likewise these dreamers (teaching an imaginary jesus and gospel) defile (dye with a different color to make acceptable) the flesh. Despise dominion (the domnion of the Holy Spirit), and speak evil (contrary to) )divine authority.), dignities: gr. Doxas: glorious heavenly things.

Again, they deny the One who bought them, or contradict the words of Christ for fun and profit.

Note: bought them? These are born again believers. Hello?

Also their hatred of the true remnant of God, the rejection of the same is due to their defiling of their flesh, their wresting of the scriptures.....again for self interests and personal prosperity.
A true servant need not even open his mouth within the vicinity of these reprobates. The Holy Spirit will convict that man and he'll immediatly disdain this true servant and strive to distance himself from him.

See Jeremiah 23 concerning these 'dreamers of dreams' that prophesy lies and destroy and scatter His true sheep. False pastors a plenty.

UnderGrace · Jul 17, 2016

Yet said:

The word apostasia does not occur in Matthew 7:22-23, nor is it used anywhere in this passage.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ [SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Jesus is very clear he never knew them and any works they were doing was not of God.

Blain · Jul 18, 2016

Yet have you no respect or regard for the scriptures? These prophetic words were not written for you to use to promote your church hate agenda and honestly I find this quite offensive.

blue_ladybug · Jul 18, 2016

Actually, it's only 10:24 am here in Vermont.

lol

Yet · Jul 18, 2016

He comes as a thief in the NIGHT. When its night time in one place its day time somewhere else. So this proves it is speaking of spiritual darkness, falsehood, and apostasy.

Query: why does the 'church' hold to the soon return of Jesus yet refuses to see the 'falling away' that must take place first, which only reinforces the very truth of the 'falling away', 2Thess.2:3, the apostate condition and strong delusional mantle that envelopes christendom?

So when you guys say the 'church' is right on the bulls eye, 'all is well in Zion', collectively chanting 'we are not apostate ', are you not contradicting what the NT has prophesied?

oyster67 · Jul 18, 2016

Yet said:

Amen. The Laodicean church.

(Rev 3:14 [KJV])
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

(Rev 3:15 [KJV])
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

(Rev 3:16 [KJV])
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

(Rev 3:17 [KJV])
Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

(Rev 3:18 [KJV])
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

(Rev 3:19 [KJV])
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(Rev 3:20 [KJV])
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

(Rev 3:21 [KJV])
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

HisHolly · Jul 18, 2016

All you do is post online bc you were " forced" to tithe. You're bitter and angry.. if you weren't your message would be different.. You Sir haven't a clue about meat bc you talk about low level things such as money... Turn them towards rewards in heaven and eternity with God.. all you do is bash and claim it's a warning... We aren't stupid.. Nobody else can tell if the pressure for tithe is a little too heavy? We all pay bills and call if they charge too much.. Do we not have the same ability to raise a brow where tithe is concerned?... So many more points in the falling away and you're stuck on money.. If God supplies and owns the world, shouldn't your faith be in that He will get it back to you?? Or do you not apply the teachings in Matthew that ALL say give to who asks?

UnderGrace · Jul 18, 2016

blue_ladybug said:

Same here!!

PennEd · Jul 18, 2016

PennEd said:

This post is a testament to the fact that sarcasm shouldn't be used in the written word because the writer's thoughts and intent is difficult to convey.

I want to be clear I'm not shouting at Yet that he is a hypocrite or apostate. I was merely trying to show that our own words and interpretations, mixed with Scripture, can be used to accuse and put people in boxes we devise.

This was an inartful, and unloving way to demonstrate this, and I apologize to Yet, and anyone else I offended.

May the Peace, Love and Grace of our Lord dwell in our hearts and minds.

HisHolly · Jul 18, 2016

Furthermore, none of deserve heaven.. If you had the things of God in mind you'd be pleading for their salvation not condemnation.. FACT..

oldethennew · Jul 18, 2016

as it is written:

MATT.24:4-5.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

the thing we must understand about these scriptures is that this IS 'JESUS SPEAKING' -
He is not saying that many will come in His name, 'claiming to be THE Christ', for this is just
a handful of nuts 'claiming that they are actually Him', this is called megalomania...people who
claim to be, (Elvis-Alexander the great-Houdini, etc.)

what Jesus is saying, is that many, many, will come into our world saying that Jesus is Lord,
which is a true statement, BUT, then, the 'false doctrine and lies will be inter-woven with the Truth'.

these 'devices' are what so many are un-aware of, it is one of the chief deceptions to take a
'handful' of major Truths, where the people will say, AMEN and AMEN, then the LIES are so cleverly
inter-woven and the masses are duped and seduced into believing they are serving God,
when in REALITY, they are serving the god of this world=satan...
11COR. 2:11.
Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices. = here is a scripture
that is not yet fully-fulfilled in 'modern-believers'...

as it is written:

11PETER 2:1.
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you
who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them,
and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Blain · Jul 18, 2016

oyster67 said:

The physical church was not built to send out missionaries no where in the bible does it say that, in the first church it acts they all gathered for communion and to learn and grow together in Christ as a family missionaries was not the main purpose of the church then and it isn't now either. And as for not liking yet I personally don't hold any dislike towards him as a person it's his bitterness that he refuses to let go that I dislike and causes worry for him and his message isn't true because his message in almost all of his threads is the corruptness and the money greedy pastors church and leadership in the church his message is never the gospel it's a message of his aching and hurt heart

oyster67 · Jul 19, 2016

The train is overdue. We are living on borrowed time.

(2Pet 3:9 [KJV])
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

It is night time.

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