IT'S 1948! IT'S A MIRACLE!

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This is the physical kingdom view. Jesus refuted it saying the Kingdom is spiritual and not of this world.
Yes,

but there is also a physical kingdom Where satan will be bound and Jesus will rule with a rod of iron.

if you think this is today, God must be weak
 
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Nations that come against Jerusalem ? Who makes the 7 yr peace agreement and with who ?
This is pure malarkey fabricated by Dispensationalism. They turn Jesus into Antichrist in an effort to concoct this false prophecy.
 

bojack

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This is pure malarkey fabricated by Dispensationalism. They turn Jesus into Antichrist in an effort to concoct this false prophecy.
When did this happen
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
 
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It's been here since the first century. The problem is, you look for the symbol to appear instead of what it represents. You could end up wearing it unknowingly thinking the symbol is it.
 
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Jesus isruling,the world is in peace and Saran is bound also :rolleyes:

the can’t answer you
 

bojack

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It's been here since the first century. The problem is, you look for the symbol to appear instead of what it represents. You could end up wearing it unknowingly thinking the symbol is it.
Can you buy and sell ? I can, but I won't buy what you're selling ..
 

Nehemiah6

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In 1948 our Heavenly Father kept His promise, given throughout the Holy Bible, and the country of Israel became a unified nation again.
I believe it would be more appropriate to say that God used the Zionist Movement to bring European and Russian Jews to Israel (followed later by Jews from all around the world). Zionism itself was secular, and actually rejected the concept of Messiah. And Orthodox Jews rejected Zionism, since they strictly hold to the belief that their true Messiah has yet to come. Both groups rejected the Lord Jesus Christ as their true Savior.

At the same time 1948 was a very significant year in that the nation of Israel was created, in spite of the fact the Christendom had generally assumed that God was finished with the Jews, and that all the promises to Israel were now given to the Church. Indeed anti-Semitism was the default attitude of Europeans and North Americians , and Jews were persecuted and placed in ghettos because of this. Then Nazism raised its ugly head, and the Holocaust saw millions of Jews killed simply because they were Jews. Thus Replacement Theology was predominant in most denominations (and still is is many churches).

There are many Jews being converted as we speak who are believing on Yeshuah ha Maschiach (Jesus the Christ). But the Tribulation is yet in the future, and this will be "the time of Jacob's trouble (such as has never been nor yet will be). That will be followed by the Second Coming of Christ, and it is only then that a very large number (one-third of all Jews worldwide) will believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved. The prophecy of Ezekiel is significant in this regard, and there will be a fourth temple in Jerusalem, which will be the true temple of God for eternity.

God has an eternal plan and purpose for redeemed and restored Israel on earth while at the same time He has an eternal plan and purpose for the Church (which is the Body, the Bride, and the Building of Christ). Those plans run parallel to each other, since the Abrahamic Covenant will be fulfilled in both plans.
 

Butterflyyy

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Why would God "bless" those who deny Christ?
Because He is faithful even when we are not; because He keeps His covenant. Because He is God and He can do whatever He wants, and He chose to use the literal nation and land of Israel for His purposes and He has not finished with them, scripture explains His plan.
He chose for the Saviour of the world to be Jewish, from Israel; this is not something we can just overlook and ignore. In 1948 prophecy was fulfilled; His plan is not finished; the land of Israel is God's time-piece, as we see what is happening regarding Israel, we know that much Bible prophecy is being fulfilled and the time is getting much shorter.
 

Butterflyyy

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It's been here since the first century. The problem is, you look for the symbol to appear instead of what it represents. You could end up wearing it unknowingly thinking the symbol is it.
WHO IS THIS JOKER???🤦🏼‍♀️
 

Journeyman

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Who said it did? I do not see that requirement in Lev 26!
The NT teaches us how the law leads us to Christ by showing us how sinful we are and in need of God's mercy. The NT also says Abraham's descendants are believers, not unbelievers, so if your view of Lev.26 doesn't include these truths, you're deceived.
 

Journeyman

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Jesus isruling,the world is in peace and Saran is bound also :rolleyes:

the can’t answer you
Scripture never says the whole world will live in peace. It does teach this,

Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. Jn.14:27

Jesus also taught that Satan could not harm a believer.
 
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I believe it would be more appropriate to say that God used the Zionist Movement to bring European and Russian Jews to Israel (followed later by Jews from all around the world). Zionism itself was secular, and actually rejected the concept of Messiah. And Orthodox Jews rejected Zionism, since they strictly hold to the belief that their true Messiah has yet to come. Both groups rejected the Lord Jesus Christ as their true Savior.

At the same time 1948 was a very significant year in that the nation of Israel was created, in spite of the fact the Christendom had generally assumed that God was finished with the Jews, and that all the promises to Israel were now given to the Church. Indeed anti-Semitism was the default attitude of Europeans and North Americians , and Jews were persecuted and placed in ghettos because of this. Then Nazism raised its ugly head, and the Holocaust saw millions of Jews killed simply because they were Jews. Thus Replacement Theology was predominant in most denominations (and still is is many churches).

There are many Jews being converted as we speak who are believing on Yeshuah ha Maschiach (Jesus the Christ). But the Tribulation is yet in the future, and this will be "the time of Jacob's trouble (such as has never been nor yet will be). That will be followed by the Second Coming of Christ, and it is only then that a very large number (one-third of all Jews worldwide) will believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved. The prophecy of Ezekiel is significant in this regard, and there will be a fourth temple in Jerusalem, which will be the true temple of God for eternity.

God has an eternal plan and purpose for redeemed and restored Israel on earth while at the same time He has an eternal plan and purpose for the Church (which is the Body, the Bride, and the Building of Christ). Those plans run parallel to each other, since the Abrahamic Covenant will be fulfilled in both plans.
When God changed the name Israel to represent the father of new united nations name Christian. . which defined means residents of the city of Christ, the bride of Christ.

I would not call that Replacement Theology but a name change .Just like it was changed from Jacob to Israel .There is usually a spiritual reason set aside for a change.. Jeremiah 30 is clearly about the time of reformation when things got turn right-side up . We can still see the effect of that reformation. A time like never before or ever again. One demonstration was all that promised to the world.
 

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This is the physical kingdom view. Jesus refuted it saying the Kingdom is spiritual and not of this world.
So revelation is dealing with spiritual Israel? Don't think so.

Are you referring to Jesus answering pilot?
 

Nehemiah6

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Are you referring to Jesus answering pilot [Pilate]?
Of course. He mistakenly believes that what was said to Pontius Pilate at that moment was meant to reject the literal Kingdom of God in earth. And that's what happens when people do not wish to believe the whole truth. They pick a verse and ignore whole chapters and books.
 

pottersclay

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Of course. He mistakenly believes that what was said to Pontius Pilate at that moment was meant to reject the literal Kingdom of God in earth. And that's what happens when people do not wish to believe the whole truth. They pick a verse and ignore whole chapters and books.
Hey thanks for correcting my spelling. Just fired my spell check☺️☺️
 
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So revelation is dealing with spiritual Israel? Don't think so.

Are you referring to Jesus answering pilot?
The Church is Israel which includes believing Israel. The unbelievers are not Israel.