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no friend I don't flip sides, I care for the whole body of Christ,
Most of all I care for people's well being and feeling.
The fact you are talking about flipping sides and still holding on to a philosophy that I spoke over 5 days ago, is also the fact your heart is not fully strengthened.
Your weakness is the enemy not me or your brothers in Christ.
If your mind and heart was fully mature in not letting a previous seed of bitterness dictate how you should respond over a past disagreement, you wouldn't even have replied how you have.
You've obviously found fault in me and residentalien, and the bottom line is where both contending for the truth and only discerning for it.
Your letting your heart take direct offense, which if you where seeking God on how you should, and waiting patiently for him to take away this seed of annoyance and possibly bitterness , you wouldn't still be holding on to contentment over a past disagreement.
The fact you have brought previous discussions of disagreement in to this post shows your stirring the pot, yet you fail to see this and continue to find fault further.
Most of all I care for people's well being and feeling.
The fact you are talking about flipping sides and still holding on to a philosophy that I spoke over 5 days ago, is also the fact your heart is not fully strengthened.
Your weakness is the enemy not me or your brothers in Christ.
If your mind and heart was fully mature in not letting a previous seed of bitterness dictate how you should respond over a past disagreement, you wouldn't even have replied how you have.
You've obviously found fault in me and residentalien, and the bottom line is where both contending for the truth and only discerning for it.
Your letting your heart take direct offense, which if you where seeking God on how you should, and waiting patiently for him to take away this seed of annoyance and possibly bitterness , you wouldn't still be holding on to contentment over a past disagreement.
The fact you have brought previous discussions of disagreement in to this post shows your stirring the pot, yet you fail to see this and continue to find fault further.
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I see I am blessed with the gift to write from my creativity. I certainly will be using it for published works. But I write so much, wanting to use the creativity and share it to others, it is seen in samples as well. I don't show any of it through this forum, but there are places with it online. And it leads me to write sharing attention to God who gives us our abilities. I have had help from others God blessed me with too.
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You probably don't realize it, but when you share a David Crowder video you're sharing a lot more than simply a song. Crowder's label is ultimately owned by Universal Music Group, the biggest music company around. They represent every worldly musician and group you can think of, pumping out the most worldly and satanic ideology there is.
Why would Crowder partner with such a company? There are only two reasons: money and fame. Someone might say well, certain compromises must be made for the sake of the good news. That's not what Jesus taught; He taught no one can serve two masters. Crowder has compromised himself and the gospel for money. If he quit turning a profit his label would drop him in nothing flat. He hasn't done anything for the gospel; he's actually compromised it and said to anyone listening it's okay to compromise.
I realize a lot of people don't know a lot of this, but they should. I have nothing against friends sharing a Christian song, but when the Contemporary Christian Music industry is involved, the music stops being Christian and becomes satanic.
Why would Crowder partner with such a company? There are only two reasons: money and fame. Someone might say well, certain compromises must be made for the sake of the good news. That's not what Jesus taught; He taught no one can serve two masters. Crowder has compromised himself and the gospel for money. If he quit turning a profit his label would drop him in nothing flat. He hasn't done anything for the gospel; he's actually compromised it and said to anyone listening it's okay to compromise.
I realize a lot of people don't know a lot of this, but they should. I have nothing against friends sharing a Christian song, but when the Contemporary Christian Music industry is involved, the music stops being Christian and becomes satanic.
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If you were a Christian author, and the Church of Satan told you they would publish one of your books, would you do it? My point is, this is precisely what contemporary Christian musicians have done; not just Crowder, but every single popular CC group and musician. There are only two or three giant music labels and these serve as umbrella companies for all the rest—CCM and the worldly artists as well. Universal Music Group doesn't have "Satan" as part of it's name but that's exactly who they are and what they do: they export the most worldly and Satanic music available.
We don't but what he is where our Lord wants him to be that he might be used mightily.
Jumping to judgement we know is not of God and leaves Him out of the equation.
Many times companies are owned by huge entities, Zondervan was one we heard of years ago , the Co. that owned them also owned a company that printed some garbage.
best wishes
Jumping to judgement we know is not of God and leaves Him out of the equation.
Many times companies are owned by huge entities, Zondervan was one we heard of years ago , the Co. that owned them also owned a company that printed some garbage.
best wishes
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I appreciate your concerns on this matter. Truly i was not going to respond to this in defending crowder. Im not. Just putting it out there.
I personally dont know crowder. I personally have not seen him speak of justifying compromise. His message seems to be pointing to JESUS, praising God, and edifing the saints. His lyrics seem in order with scripture. Now why would the enemy want that? I could be wrong, cant know everything.
The music industry has change since my day. I have no clue of the ins and outs of it.
Contemporary music has alway clashed with traditional hymns and organ playing.
If you can show me proof other than what is assumed to be a compromise Id greatly appreciate that.
Is there any 100 percent christian music industry out there? And if so are they making money.? Do they promote and endorse for free? Do the preformers work for free, tour for free.
I do watch and listen to what is said and sung, and have no trouble in rebuking that which is corrupt.
I have also seen things and people scandalized in appearance of being corrupt.
I personally dont know crowder. I personally have not seen him speak of justifying compromise. His message seems to be pointing to JESUS, praising God, and edifing the saints. His lyrics seem in order with scripture. Now why would the enemy want that? I could be wrong, cant know everything.
The music industry has change since my day. I have no clue of the ins and outs of it.
Contemporary music has alway clashed with traditional hymns and organ playing.
If you can show me proof other than what is assumed to be a compromise Id greatly appreciate that.
Is there any 100 percent christian music industry out there? And if so are they making money.? Do they promote and endorse for free? Do the preformers work for free, tour for free.
I do watch and listen to what is said and sung, and have no trouble in rebuking that which is corrupt.
I have also seen things and people scandalized in appearance of being corrupt.
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I've already shown proof; I'm not assuming anything. But for your sake I'll see if I can't make it perfectly clear. Look up any of Crowder's albums on Wikipedia. His label is Sparrow/Sixsteps. Sparrow is owned by Capitol CMG (Christian Music Group). Capitol CMG is owned by Universal Music Group. Here's a long list of UMG artists that are published under their umbrella: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Universal_Music_Group_artists.
I don't know Crowder personally either, but I don't need to. Let me ask the question I already asked: If you were a Christian author, and the Church of Satan offered to publish your books, would you do it? You may write the best Christian theology; you may say everything your audience would expect you to say. But should I think you're not compromised? Absolutely not. Anyone who would partner with the enemy is an enemy of Christ.
For whatever it's worth, I don't think Crowder's teaching or theology are sound; but if you don't see how he's compromised by partnering with UMG, going into his teaching would be a waste of time.
I don't know Crowder personally either, but I don't need to. Let me ask the question I already asked: If you were a Christian author, and the Church of Satan offered to publish your books, would you do it? You may write the best Christian theology; you may say everything your audience would expect you to say. But should I think you're not compromised? Absolutely not. Anyone who would partner with the enemy is an enemy of Christ.
For whatever it's worth, I don't think Crowder's teaching or theology are sound; but if you don't see how he's compromised by partnering with UMG, going into his teaching would be a waste of time.
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I get what you mean. We're not to partner with the world. We're not to be unequally yoked with the unbelievers.
2 Corinthians 6:14-18
14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16 What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
“I will live with them
and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they will be my people.”
17 Therefore,
“Come out from them
and be separate,
says the Lord.
Touch no unclean thing,
and I will receive you.”
18 And,
“I will be a Father to you,
and you will be my sons and daughters,
says the Lord Almighty.”
These verses tend to be overlooked, but if that's what God wants, then I'll do just that.
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I agree with you totally ☺
Lets start with the mortgage....only a christian lending institute.
Dont forget your car or truck .....only a christian bank or financial institution.
Oh groceries.....only a christian store or grow our own.
Taxes paid to a corrupt government.....no way....
Clothes....again we can make our own.
Utilities......firewood and candles for us.
Lets just trash this secularism.....big brother corrupt world...guess the amish had it right.
Let them just try to say we are not christian....for we do not deal with this world at all.....
For the sinners...well...we will see them by appointment only......at a distance.😎
Lets start with the mortgage....only a christian lending institute.
Dont forget your car or truck .....only a christian bank or financial institution.
Oh groceries.....only a christian store or grow our own.
Taxes paid to a corrupt government.....no way....
Clothes....again we can make our own.
Utilities......firewood and candles for us.
Lets just trash this secularism.....big brother corrupt world...guess the amish had it right.
Let them just try to say we are not christian....for we do not deal with this world at all.....
For the sinners...well...we will see them by appointment only......at a distance.😎
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Wow, just how ridiculous are your examples? Have you no discernment at all?
God is talking about not partnering with unbelievers like joint businesses and other things where you have to work closely together and may have to compromise your beliefs. That's what those verses are about.
Bible verses are presented to you and you just gloss over them without asking God what He means by that. Because if you did, it would show in a more intelligent response from you. Please be serious. I can't be bothered with all the crazy or lazy interpretations in this subforum anymore.....
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