I think you should listen to your own advice about pride and baby food. David is the one with the meat and he doesn't have to brag about how many years he's been at it. Pre-trib is a broken doctrine. Everyone who understands scripture at a decent level knows that. The bible only places the rapture after the Great Tribulation has ended. Nothing can change that.
It's time to wake Judaism up and get them Grafted back in.
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I think you should listen to your own advice about pride and baby food. David is the one with the meat and he doesn't have to brag about how many years he's been at it. Pre-trib is a broken doctrine. Everyone who understands scripture at a decent level knows that. The bible only places the rapture after the Great Tribulation has ended. Nothing can change that.
Yep but broken off branches aren't counted as part of Israel.
Rom 11:10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
This needs to be acknowledged. Paul is talking about some who shall be blinded forever. That's the really bad branches that were removed and won't be grafted back.
Rom 11:10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
This needs to be acknowledged. Paul is talking about some who shall be blinded forever. That's the really bad branches that were removed and won't be grafted back.
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You said : "The Rapture happens Pre Trib, when Jesus Returns he rings us WITH HIM, both those who were Resurrected and those of us who CHANGED from a flesh man to a Spirit man, then went to Heaven to gain our FINE WHITE LINEN Robes. I have been called unto this for over 35 years. I understand that which I speak of. "
You have been believing a lie and promoting it for 35 years - it's not too late to repent - but it will be soon.
satanism 101 - Garden tactics - reverse God's words, add to them and take away..........SIN
The LORD JESUS CHRIST says: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
satan says: "The Rapture happens Pre Trib, when Jesus Returns he brings us WITH HIM, both those who were Resurrected and those of us who CHANGED from a flesh man to a Spirit man" = this is a complete lie
JESUS says:
But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so
God will bring with Him those who died in Jesus. (no Resurrection here yet but soon)
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord,
that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who died.
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.
And the dead in Christ will rise first.
AFTER that we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.
You have been believing a lie and promoting it for 35 years - it's not too late to repent - but it will be soon.
satanism 101 - Garden tactics - reverse God's words, add to them and take away..........SIN
The LORD JESUS CHRIST says: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
satan says: "The Rapture happens Pre Trib, when Jesus Returns he brings us WITH HIM, both those who were Resurrected and those of us who CHANGED from a flesh man to a Spirit man" = this is a complete lie
JESUS says:
But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so
God will bring with Him those who died in Jesus. (no Resurrection here yet but soon)
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord,
that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who died.
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.
And the dead in Christ will rise first.
AFTER that we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.
What King matches to the King in Psalm 72?
Psa 72:3 The mountains shall bring peace to the people, and the little hills, by righteousness.
// GOD'S Kingdom (Mount Zion) is Peace
Psa 72:6 He shall come down like rain upon the mown grass: as showers that water the earth.
// JESUS Reigns now.
Psa 72:8 He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.
Psa 72:15 prayer also shall be made for him continually; and daily shall he be praised.
//What Jewish King asks for prayers continually besides the Ultimate King?
Psa 72:17 His name shall endure for ever: his name shall be continued as long as the sun: and men shall be blessed in him: all nations shall call him blessed.
Psa 72:3 The mountains shall bring peace to the people, and the little hills, by righteousness.
// GOD'S Kingdom (Mount Zion) is Peace
Psa 72:6 He shall come down like rain upon the mown grass: as showers that water the earth.
// JESUS Reigns now.
Psa 72:8 He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.
Psa 72:15 prayer also shall be made for him continually; and daily shall he be praised.
//What Jewish King asks for prayers continually besides the Ultimate King?
Psa 72:17 His name shall endure for ever: his name shall be continued as long as the sun: and men shall be blessed in him: all nations shall call him blessed.
If the Reborn are Kingdom Ambassadors, why are we waiting for a physical Kingdom like the Jews are? They are waiting for a Messianic age, are we also or is LORD JESUS CHRIST Reigning right now?
Check out “amillennial eschatology”. What do people think is going on when they become Reborn? i’ll tell you, He becomes our KING.
Jews still haven’t figured out that GOD’S Kingdom isn’t physical. You become Reborn to enter it. You become Reborn for a Relationship with GOD.
very short video:
Check out “amillennial eschatology”. What do people think is going on when they become Reborn? i’ll tell you, He becomes our KING.
Jews still haven’t figured out that GOD’S Kingdom isn’t physical. You become Reborn to enter it. You become Reborn for a Relationship with GOD.
very short video:
"Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed." - Romans 9:6-8 KJV
"And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham." - Matthew 3:9 KJV
"Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ." - Galatians 3:16 KJV
"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." - Galatians 3:28 KJV
Based on your description and based on the passages above, I am puzzled by what you mean by "physical descendant" unless you simply mean to say "those in Christ".
"And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham." - Matthew 3:9 KJV
"Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ." - Galatians 3:16 KJV
"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." - Galatians 3:28 KJV
Based on your description and based on the passages above, I am puzzled by what you mean by "physical descendant" unless you simply mean to say "those in Christ".
If there are "many" that will awake (Daniel 12:2) and "many" Saints awoke after JESUS'S Resurrection (Matthew 27:52-53), is it telling us the OT was fulfilled and the previous Jews before JESUS were grandfathered into the Messianic Age?
Daniel 12:2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Matthew 27:52-53
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Daniel 12:2
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Matthew 27:52-53
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
No no there are specific promises made to Abraham concerning his seed that are born from his loins, they are not promised heaven they are promised the ends of the earth as their inheritance. And before folks begin to quote the scripture about who will never be forgiven I would point out at pentecost Peter charged his hearers of having slain the Holy One of God and great multitudes repented and were saved.
Amillennialism is a blown theology, it taught that the church would spread throughout the whole world until Jesus is received as the rightful King. In fact it was blown from the get go for Jesus told us what the condition of the world would be prior to His return ... a world in rebellion against God and in turmoil,
The Jews expect an earthly kingdom because they are promised an earthly kingdom and since God never lies they shall have it.
Ours is a heavenly kingdom.
The Jews expect an earthly kingdom because they are promised an earthly kingdom and since God never lies they shall have it.
Ours is a heavenly kingdom.
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Are you aware the land for the Temple is with islam? satan himself couldn't smooth talk them into giving it to their enemy. i'm pretty sure GOD did this on purpose.
We already worship the image of the beast when we are not on GOD'S Plan of SALVATION. the mystery babylon is satan handing us his plan from the tree of knowledge. when we choose our own plan for life we are choosing satan's plan. self-idolatry
if there isn't an obvious mark of the beast in your life, consider what else you are going to be Judged on instead.
We already worship the image of the beast when we are not on GOD'S Plan of SALVATION. the mystery babylon is satan handing us his plan from the tree of knowledge. when we choose our own plan for life we are choosing satan's plan. self-idolatry
if there isn't an obvious mark of the beast in your life, consider what else you are going to be Judged on instead.
Even the in Peter's Pentecost sermon in Acts 2, he repeats the same sentiment that those in Christ will inherit the promise, including to the 3000 from house of Israel that became Christian in Acts 2.
"38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." - Acts 2:38-39 KJV
The specific promises to Abraham and his seed are explicitly addressed in the New Testament. Christ and those in Christ are the inheritors of the promise. These children of the promise (Christians) will include those that will eventually be called to God. In every generation there may be those called to God from various places.
"they are not promised heaven they are promised the ends of the earth as their inheritance"
If we interpret the promise to be about physical territory on earth (which isn't a necessary interpretation), scripture tells us that through the promise, this too would belong to Christians. NonChristians have no stake in the benefits of the promise unless they turn to Christ. To disagree with that statement is to disagree with scripture. A nation not in Christ might occupy a territory under other terms, but not by right of Abraham's promise.
"38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." - Acts 2:38-39 KJV
The specific promises to Abraham and his seed are explicitly addressed in the New Testament. Christ and those in Christ are the inheritors of the promise. These children of the promise (Christians) will include those that will eventually be called to God. In every generation there may be those called to God from various places.
"they are not promised heaven they are promised the ends of the earth as their inheritance"
If we interpret the promise to be about physical territory on earth (which isn't a necessary interpretation), scripture tells us that through the promise, this too would belong to Christians. NonChristians have no stake in the benefits of the promise unless they turn to Christ. To disagree with that statement is to disagree with scripture. A nation not in Christ might occupy a territory under other terms, but not by right of Abraham's promise.
Those Jews were no more cut off than other nonChristians of the time but NonChristian Jews are no different than any other NonChristian. Some might be called to God and others might not. The Door is there.
Even Paul started off as an antiChristian and eventually found salvation in Christ. Someone that appears cruel today may be a changed man tomorrow. We can't say with certainty who is a goat and who is a sheep, but God will know the difference.
Even Paul started off as an antiChristian and eventually found salvation in Christ. Someone that appears cruel today may be a changed man tomorrow. We can't say with certainty who is a goat and who is a sheep, but God will know the difference.