Jesus and Paul -two different gospels?

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We were not there for the full discussion between God and Abraham. We do not know the full details, but what we know is that Paul said that the Gospel was given to Abraham. It's time to put this to rest. Please.
Yes, the gospel was given to Abraham, which if you are willing to read the bible literally, without reading INTO the bible, can be found in Genesis 15:5, Genesis 12:1-3 etc.
 

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Yes, the gospel was given to Abraham, which if you are willing to read the bible literally, without reading INTO the bible, can be found in Genesis 15:5, Genesis 12:1-3, etc.
Okie Doke.
 

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This ' good news ' is not the same as the good news we preach today.
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25¶And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26¶He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?

27¶And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

28¶And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
 

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Out of curiosity, are you correcting him, or supporting him with your reply, especially with the way you bold some of the words in Galatians 2?
Supporting/agreeing with him.............................................
 
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Supporting/agreeing with him.............................................
If you agree with him that "There is only one Gospel.. Paul and Jesus both preached it..", what would you regard as the main points of that "one gospel"?

More specifically, how does one get saved by that gospel? What must he believe about Christ there?
 
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Through various discussions on the board here. It seems there is a view that there are two gospels.


Basically it says that Jesus taught a different gospel than that of Paul. Are there two gospels? One that Jesus taught then a different one that Paul taught?
I haven't read the other responses on this thread, but, no, there are not two gospels.

Jesus and Paul preached the same things.
 

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I haven't read the other responses on this thread, but, no, there are not two gospels.

Jesus and Paul preached the same things.
That might be a hasty response . Yes of course Paul wasn't preaching islam .
 
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That might be a hasty response . Yes of course Paul wasn't preaching islam .
Hi, throughfaith.

Seeing how I've read the Bible a multitude of times over the last 32 years, including literally reading some of Paul's epistles 100 times or more, I can assure you that it wasn't a hasty response.

When it comes to Paul's gospel, it was not only the same as Jesus', but also the same gospel that God preached to Abraham (Gal. 3:10), and the same gospel that Moses preached to the children of Israel (Deut. 30:11-14, Rom. 10:6-10).
 

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Hi, throughfaith.

Seeing how I've read the Bible a multitude of times over the last 32 years, including literally reading some of Paul's epistles 100 times or more, I can assure you that it wasn't a hasty response.

When it comes to Paul's gospel, it was not only the same as Jesus', but also the same gospel that God preached to Abraham (Gal. 3:10), and the same gospel that Moses preached to the children of Israel (Deut. 30:11-14, Rom. 10:6-10).
It depends on what you believe Pauls gospel is ?
 

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This is what they believe quite shocking really and unbiblical.




We understand that Christ designated Paul to be our Apostle today. It is in “Paul’s writings alone that we find the doctrine, position, walk, and destiny of the church” which is his body.

For those with ears to hear, we confidently teach mid-Acts Pauline dispensational right division of a King James Bible.
 
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This is what they believe quite shocking really and unbiblical.




We understand that Christ designated Paul to be our Apostle today. It is in “Paul’s writings alone that we find the doctrine, position, walk, and destiny of the church” which is his body.

For those with ears to hear, we confidently teach mid-Acts Pauline dispensational right division of a King James Bible.
Do you find what Paul said in Romans 16:25 to be quite shocking too?

Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

How arrogant of Paul to call the gospel "my gospel", he totally disregarded Peter and the others.
 

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Do you find what Paul said in Romans 16:25 to be quite shocking too?

Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

How arrogant of Paul to call the gospel "my gospel", he totally disregarded Peter and the others.


No I just find what the Hyper dispensationalists and the like say is shocking and unbiblical, as follows below:-


We understand that Christ designated Paul to be our Apostle today. It is in “Paul’s writings alone that we find the doctrine, position, walk, and destiny of the church” which is his body.

For those with ears to hear, we confidently teach mid-Acts Pauline dispensational right division of a King James Bible.
 
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Hi, throughfaith.

Seeing how I've read the Bible a multitude of times over the last 32 years, including literally reading some of Paul's epistles 100 times or more, I can assure you that it wasn't a hasty response.

When it comes to Paul's gospel, it was not only the same as Jesus', but also the same gospel that God preached to Abraham (Gal. 3:10), and the same gospel that Moses preached to the children of Israel (Deut. 30:11-14, Rom. 10:6-10).
Amen. As Paul said in romans 4. Abraham believed.
Salvation has always been by grace through faith period
 
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That might be a hasty response . Yes of course Paul wasn't preaching islam .
You paulines say Jesus preached a different gospel than paul.

Paul said if anyone preached a different gospel than his " LET HIM BE ACCURSED"
THEN PAUL REPEATS THAT CURSE.

NO wonder you guys hate the gospels and minimize Jesus.

You see Jesus as a heretic
 
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Do you find what Paul said in Romans 16:25 to be quite shocking too?

Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

How arrogant of Paul to call the gospel "my gospel", he totally disregarded Peter and the others.
Ummm....no.

Far from disregarding Peter and the others, this is what Paul actually did:

Galatians chapter 2

[1] Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.
[2] And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.
[3] But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
[4] And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
[5] To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
[6] But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:
[7] But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
[8] (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles)
[9] And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

Paul actually communicated the gospel that he was preaching to James, Peter/Cephas, and John lest by any means he had been running in vain, so you might want to retract your erroneous statement.
 
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Ummm....no.

Far from disregarding Peter and the others, this is what Paul actually did:

Galatians chapter 2

[1] Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.
[2] And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.
[3] But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
[4] And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
[5] To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
[6] But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:
[7] But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
[8] (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles)
[9] And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

Paul actually communicated the gospel that he was preaching to James, Peter/Cephas, and John lest by any means he had been running in vain, so you might want to retract your erroneous statement.
My question was, "If he was preaching the same gospel all along, why would he call it my gospel, when Peter and the others never made the same claim"?

The scripture you quoted did not address that.