Jesus Came To Fulfill Not To Destroy

[Duckybill]

I know some very sinful people who obey Jesus more than "Christians".

 

[justbyfaith]

Right...

How many times have I explained it to you?

That's not the only place Paul explains this idea to you.

Galatians 3:2-3
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

(Or "Do you still think the law can give you righteousness???)

2 Corinthians 3:5-6
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Galatians 3:21-22
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.



You can't take 1 scripture and try to twist it to mean the opposite of what Paul was trying to convey. He says the same things in different ways in different epistles.


Apparently you didn't understand any of them. Or you have Paul arguing with his own self.

We are made perfect by the Spirit as the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).

The promise by faith in Christ Jesus is told to us in 1 John 3:9.

 

[justbyfaith]

If you knew you were justified by Christ then there would be no need for you to go back to the 10 commandments.

And you STILL conflate the Law of Liberty with the 10 commandments. You are so wrong.

YOU have James contradicting Paul. You know you MUST be in error, right?

You have James saying continue in the Law vs Paul saying don't go back to the Law.

You REALLY think the apostles contradict each other? REALLY?

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.



Our wisdom??? Call back when you find some.

The fact of the matter is, I am obedient to the ten commandments because the love of the Lord has been shed abroad in my heart (Romans 5:5); whether I look to them or not (Romans 13:8-10, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6).

However, I think that a little tidbit of wisdom given unto us by Solomon is pertinent here.

If anyone turns his ear away from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be an abomination (Proverbs 28:9).

 

[walknlight]

Men who do not surrender their vices to the Lord may find themselves judged as workers / doers of iniquity on that day (Matthew 7:23, Matthew 25:41; Matthew 13:41-42).

uh huh....

 

[justbyfaith]

I don't know of anyone who obeys the Law of Moses, especially the Law preachers!

The letter of the law cannot be obeyed by anyone (Galatians 6:13).

The spirit of the law is a different story (Romans 7:6).

If we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4)

I know some very sinful people who obey Jesus more than "Christians".

That is an indictment on the church, isn't it?

It ought not to be that way.

But the devil has brought in false doctrines into the church and Christians have fallen for it; and their lives are the fruit of that doctrine.

An example is your first statement in this post, above.

 

[justbyfaith]

uh huh....

Today if you will hear His voice, harden not your heart as in the day of provocation...

Hebrews 3:7-8, Hebrews 3:15, Hebrews 4:7.

 

[Duckybill]

The Law preachers love to preach it. But they don't keep it! Utter hypocrisy!

 

[Charlie24]

Paul PLAINLY is not saying that we gain righteousness by the Law.

That's funny how you twist scripture thinking you understand but try to make it say the opposite of what it is actually conveying.

Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

See? its all part of this thought. The Law CAN'T give you righteousness.

Grandpa, you have not understood anything I have said! You assume you have and label me a keeper of the Law.

But that's OK, it really doesn't matter to me what you think! Once again,

Paul told us the Law is holy and good! He told us the Law is not made void through faith, we establish the Law!

He told us that because the "flesh is weak" man can't keep this "holy and good" Law.

So Jesus came to keep the Law for us, He became the second Adam, undoing what Adam had done by sinning.

What you will not accept it that there is righteousness in the Law, BUT man cannot receive that righteousness from God by keeping the Law himself. Are you reading this? Do you understand this?

Perfect obedience had to be rendered by man to obtain this righteousness, again, fallen man cannot deep this Law and obtain the righteousness!

But, by the fact that Christ did keep the Law perfectly and defeated the of sin and death, through faith in Him, the Law is fulfilled in us through our sanctification process by the Holy Spirit. This is how the Law is fulfilled in us.

It is all based on faith in the One who kept the Law perfectly, without faith in Him the Law cannot be fulfilled in us.

But still, fallen man that believes in Christ, and the Law is being fulfilled in him by faith, cannot keep the Law! We will fail in areas as man is not yet perfect.

This means that man still cannot achieve the righteousness in the Law, the righteousness he has received for justification came from God as a free gift for believing in His Son.

 

[justbyfaith]

The Law preachers love to preach it. But they don't keep it! Utter hypocrisy!

The letter of the law cannot be kept (Galatians 6:13).

The spirit of what is written (Exodus 34:27) is a different story (Romans 7:6).

If we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).

That means that we don't only keep it outwardly; we keep it inwardly.

 

[Jackson123]

The letter of the law cannot be kept (Galatians 6:13).

The spirit of what is written (Exodus 34:27) is a different story (Romans 7:6).

If we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).

That means that we don't only keep it outwardly; we keep it inwardly.

Yep, real law is love.
The law say do not kill
Not kill not always love, I may not kill mr smith but I hate mr smith

 

[Pilgrimshope]

The question that needs to be asked, I think, is, what has the Lord set us free from, in Galatians 5:1?

Has He set us free from sin, or from righteousness?

We’ve been set free from sins dominion over us by the new word given

you are equating righteousness with Moses law that’s not what it contains it gives the understanding of sin and death being the result of sin . The righteousness in the law is not the righteousness of God

“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested,

being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Gods righteousness is not found in Moses law. It is revealed clearly in Christ and the gospel apart from the law of Moses without Moses law completely

“Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭2:16-

The law can’t justify anyone

“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it has no power to justify or make anyone righteous. Contrary to popular belief many people in scripture kept the law of Moses but of those people it saved or redeemed no one paul
Actually compares keeping the law and being righteous by its works to “ dung “ and rubble

the thing is God was hidden behind the law and wasn’t actually revealed to mankind until Christ came forth. That’s our God and his word the things Christ said and did .

Moses and his law was just what set everything in motion it’s the first part of Gods plan to redeem
Mankind from sin . Before you can save sinners and teach them to repent you have to make sin known to them or they could never repent of sin and you have to show them why they need to repent that’s what the law is for to show mankind what sin is and what sin results in for us

sin and death . To have all the knowledge in the world of sin and death will not save any Christian it will always curse the free man who takes a yoke of slavery upon his own self

we’ve been set free from the law , because by the law sin has overcome
Mankind and we can be renewed and redeemed through the gospel and be given freedom from sins dominion and rule over us but as long as one is beholden to Moses law they can never be free of sin it will always be giving them knowledge of sin and death

the gospel always gives knowledge of righteousness and life

we’re set free for sins dominion over us so we don’t have to serve it anymore and die according to Moses law

 

[Grandpa]

The fact of the matter is, I am obedient to the ten commandments because the love of the Lord has been shed abroad in my heart (Romans 5:5); whether I look to them or not (Romans 13:8-10, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6).

However, I think that a little tidbit of wisdom given unto us by Solomon is pertinent here.

If anyone turns his ear away from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be an abomination (Proverbs 28:9).

I don't think Pharisees have to worry too much about that.

This is what they should be worried about;

Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

 

[Grandpa]

Grandpa, you have not understood anything I have said! You assume you have and label me a keeper of the Law.

But that's OK, it really doesn't matter to me what you think! Once again,

Paul told us the Law is holy and good! He told us the Law is not made void through faith, we establish the Law!

He told us that because the "flesh is weak" man can't keep this "holy and good" Law.

So Jesus came to keep the Law for us, He became the second Adam, undoing what Adam had done by sinning.

What you will not accept it that there is righteousness in the Law, BUT man cannot receive that righteousness from God by keeping the Law himself. Are you reading this? Do you understand this?

Perfect obedience had to be rendered by man to obtain this righteousness, again, fallen man cannot deep this Law and obtain the righteousness!

But, by the fact that Christ did keep the Law perfectly and defeated the of sin and death, through faith in Him, the Law is fulfilled in us through our sanctification process by the Holy Spirit. This is how the Law is fulfilled in us.

It is all based on faith in the One who kept the Law perfectly, without faith in Him the Law cannot be fulfilled in us.

But still, fallen man that believes in Christ, and the Law is being fulfilled in him by faith, cannot keep the Law! We will fail in areas as man is not yet perfect.

This means that man still cannot achieve the righteousness in the Law, the righteousness he has received for justification came from God as a free gift for believing in His Son.

The Law is only a description of righteousness.

It doesn't give you anything. Except condemnation and death.

The Lord Jesus gives us rest from this yoke of bondage.


Its a pretty good deal for us when you think about it. Not sure why people keep wanting to go back to the law. Probably because its a carnal thing they can understand. And its easy to explain to others.

 

[SophieT]

That would make Paul a liar in Rom. 8:3-4!

Of course you will never accept that Paul said it, even though its plain as day!

But I do agree the Law brings forth death but only because man can't keep it.

how do you see Paul being made a liar here if a person states the law is not given for righteousness/salvation?

perhaps you do not understand what Paul is saying even though you are quoting it?

8 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. 3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Romans 8

there is no condemnation to those in Christ BECAUSE He kept the requirements of the law BECAUSE He never sinned

the law given to Israel was never meant to save anyone. it set up sin as the impediment between mankind and God who is holy

read v.3...GOD has created our way of salvation and not by the law which puts a magnifying glass on what? FLESH

flesh cannot keep the law and therefore is condemned by the law

SO God sent His own Son in the likeness of this sinful flesh so that sin was condemned in flesh BUT Jesus never sinned, SO the requirements of the law were FULFILLED

we are now walking after the Holy Spirit, not bound to keep the law and fulfill its requirements for sin

the law has not changed and God has not changed, so what has changed then?

our ability to go before our Creator without condemnation, not because of the law which was NEVER meant to save anyone, but because of God's plan for his wilful children through His Son in whom we are made whole, sinless before God and forgiven of our sins

WHY? because the life is in the blood as God declared in the OT....not the blood of animals with no moral compass or laws to obey, but through the blood of Christ

we are told often, NT, that it is through the blood of Christ that we are perfected (in Christ) and no longer condemned

this is all in scripture

I don't believe in luck, but good luck if you think the law declares righteousness to anyone

 

[Grandpa]

how do you see Paul being made a liar here if a person states the law is not given for righteousness/salvation?

perhaps you do not understand what Paul is saying even though you are quoting it?

8 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. 3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Romans 8

there is no condemnation to those in Christ BECAUSE He kept the requirements of the law BECAUSE He never sinned

the law given to Israel was never meant to save anyone. it set up sin as the impediment between mankind and God who is holy

read v.3...GOD has created our way of salvation and not by the law which puts a magnifying glass on what? FLESH

flesh cannot keep the law and therefore is condemned by the law

SO God sent His own Son in the likeness of this sinful flesh so that sin was condemned in flesh BUT Jesus never sinned, SO the requirements of the law were FULFILLED

we are now walking after the Holy Spirit, not bound to keep the law and fulfill its requirements for sin

the law has not changed and God has not changed, so what has changed then?

our ability to go before our Creator without condemnation, not because of the law which was NEVER meant to save anyone, but because of God's plan for his wilful children through His Son in whom we are made whole, sinless before God and forgiven of our sins

WHY? because the life is in the blood as God declared in the OT....not the blood of animals with no moral compass or laws to obey, but through the blood of Christ

we are told often, NT, that it is through the blood of Christ that we are perfected (in Christ) and no longer condemned

this is all in scripture

I don't believe in luck, but good luck if you think the law declares righteousness to anyone

Its pretty easy to see what the error of people who attempt to place Christians under Law is.

Although, apparently, they can't see it themselves due to their ignorance of what scripture is ACTUALLY saying. I would call it a willful, purposeful ignorance. Even presented with Truth they reject it. Even presented with the logic of scripture they reject that too.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Its pretty easy to see what the error of people who attempt to place Christians under Law is.

Although, apparently, they can't see it themselves due to their ignorance of what scripture is ACTUALLY saying. I would call it a willful, purposeful ignorance. Even presented with Truth they reject it. Even presented with the logic of scripture they reject that too.

“And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ.

But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart.

Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:13-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Some read Moses law and never hear what Moses and the prophets really said

“And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

…Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:38-40, 45-47‬ ‭KJV‬‬

When we look at the ot law the wrong way it can blind us to the gospel

 

[DavidTree]

In (Matthew 5:17), Jesus made the statement Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. He came not to destroy the law, or the prophets, but to fulfill. Based on that statement many ministers have taught their congregation that the arrival of Jesus did away with the Old Testament along with its laws, statutes and Judgements. They even make the statement, to their congregation, that they are no longer under the Old Testament, but now operate under the New. So you have people believing that the Old Testament is no longer relevant today. One needs only to further examine the scriptures to find out, how incorrect that position is.

In (Matthew 5:18), Jesus Himself states For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Now you will find in a concordance that jot and tittle mean letter. Here Jesus clearly states that not one letter of the law will be changed as long as heaven and earth exist. We know that the law came from the Old Testament so based solely on (Matthew 5:18), it nor the Old Testament can not be done away with.

There is clearly a discrepancy between what is being taught and what the scriptures say. The fact, that Jesus came to fulfill is known, because that is what is stated in (Matthew 5:17). But one needs to find out what He was to fulfill, since that is the condition put forth in (Matthew 5:18), when He said no letter would pass from the law until all is fulfilled. You will see the information needed to answer this will be found in the Old Testament. This itself serves as further proof as to how erroneous the position of doing away with the Old Testament is. Let's focus on what Jesus was referring to when He said He came not to destroy the law, but to fulfill and His position on the commandments.

The Gospel of Luke, will reveal what Jesus meant when He said in (Matthew 5:17 & 18), that He came to fulfill and no letter would pass from the law until all is fulfilled. Looking at Luke chapter 24:14-44, you will find that , this is when Jesus had been crucified and Peter and others were at the grave site and they were contemplating the events that had occurred. Verse 16, tells you that Jesus had come among them but they did not know Him. In verse 17, Jesus asks them what were they discussing,

(17) And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?

In verse 19 and 20, they explained to Jesus what had taken place, still not recognizing Him. Verse 21, tells why they were sad, they had expected Jesus to restore Israel. (Israel as a nation , had a history of being conquered by other nations. They had been split into two kingdoms and the northern kingdom had already been taken into captivity prior to this time. All that remained was Judah, and now it had been taken over by Rome.) Now this was the 3rd day since Jesus crucifixion and they were in question because to them nothing had changed. Israel still remained in its same state. Note what Jesus says to them in verse 25:

(25) Then he said unto them, O fool, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

Now the prophets had spoke of many things that Jesus was to do when He came. However they were just focused on the redemption of Israel. That is why Jesus told them in verse 25 that they were not bringing into remembrance all the things that were spoken of Him by the prophets. He reminded them in verse 26 that He had to suffer first and then enter into glory. He then in verse 27 went over all that the scriptures had to say concerning Himself. Following is verse 27,

(27) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself.

The following verse explains what Jesus meant in (Matthew 5:17) where He said He came not to destroy the law but to fulfill. Jesus says in (Luke 24:44) And He said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Here Jesus makes it clear that all things written about Him in the Old Testament must be fulfilled. Knowing that all things must be fulfilled by Jesus, as long as heaven and earth is still here, tells us that the law (Commandments) are still here as well and must be kept.

The Law is still in effect for unbelieving Jews and the lawless.

Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives? 2For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. 3So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man.

Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ,
that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.
But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

Let it go, for it is the instrument of death. Grace Peace and Mercy only found in Christ Jesus our LORD - Amen

 

[DavidTree]

The letter of the law cannot be kept (Galatians 6:13).

The spirit of what is written (Exodus 34:27) is a different story (Romans 7:6).

If we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).

That means that we don't only keep it outwardly; we keep it inwardly.

i see what your trying to fuse together, but it won't work.

The only way we keep the spirit of the Law is by the Holy Spirit, who will not lead us back to the Law, but forward in Christ.

What HE writes on our hearts to obey is from Him and not from the Law, even though their will be elements of the Law that we obey.
That obedience is not to the Law but to Christ.

 

[Phoneman-777]

In (Matthew 5:17), Jesus made the statement Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. He came not to destroy the law, or the prophets, but to fulfill. Based on that statement many ministers have taught their congregation that the arrival of Jesus did away with the Old Testament along with its laws, statutes and Judgements. They even make the statement, to their congregation, that they are no longer under the Old Testament, but now operate under the New. So you have people believing that the Old Testament is no longer relevant today. One needs only to further examine the scriptures to find out, how incorrect that position is.

In (Matthew 5:18), Jesus Himself states For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Now you will find in a concordance that jot and tittle mean letter. Here Jesus clearly states that not one letter of the law will be changed as long as heaven and earth exist. We know that the law came from the Old Testament so based solely on (Matthew 5:18), it nor the Old Testament can not be done away with.

There is clearly a discrepancy between what is being taught and what the scriptures say. The fact, that Jesus came to fulfill is known, because that is what is stated in (Matthew 5:17). But one needs to find out what He was to fulfill, since that is the condition put forth in (Matthew 5:18), when He said no letter would pass from the law until all is fulfilled. You will see the information needed to answer this will be found in the Old Testament. This itself serves as further proof as to how erroneous the position of doing away with the Old Testament is. Let's focus on what Jesus was referring to when He said He came not to destroy the law, but to fulfill and His position on the commandments.

The Gospel of Luke, will reveal what Jesus meant when He said in (Matthew 5:17 & 18), that He came to fulfill and no letter would pass from the law until all is fulfilled. Looking at Luke chapter 24:14-44, you will find that , this is when Jesus had been crucified and Peter and others were at the grave site and they were contemplating the events that had occurred. Verse 16, tells you that Jesus had come among them but they did not know Him. In verse 17, Jesus asks them what were they discussing,

(17) And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?

In verse 19 and 20, they explained to Jesus what had taken place, still not recognizing Him. Verse 21, tells why they were sad, they had expected Jesus to restore Israel. (Israel as a nation , had a history of being conquered by other nations. They had been split into two kingdoms and the northern kingdom had already been taken into captivity prior to this time. All that remained was Judah, and now it had been taken over by Rome.) Now this was the 3rd day since Jesus crucifixion and they were in question because to them nothing had changed. Israel still remained in its same state. Note what Jesus says to them in verse 25:

(25) Then he said unto them, O fool, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

Now the prophets had spoke of many things that Jesus was to do when He came. However they were just focused on the redemption of Israel. That is why Jesus told them in verse 25 that they were not bringing into remembrance all the things that were spoken of Him by the prophets. He reminded them in verse 26 that He had to suffer first and then enter into glory. He then in verse 27 went over all that the scriptures had to say concerning Himself. Following is verse 27,

(27) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself.

The following verse explains what Jesus meant in (Matthew 5:17) where He said He came not to destroy the law but to fulfill. Jesus says in (Luke 24:44) And He said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Here Jesus makes it clear that all things written about Him in the Old Testament must be fulfilled. Knowing that all things must be fulfilled by Jesus, as long as heaven and earth is still here, tells us that the law (Commandments) are still here as well and must be kept.

Hi, many antinomianists insist the Old Covenant and God's Ten Commandment Moral Law are one in the same...so I always ask them to go to Romans 3:31 KJV and replace "law" with "Old Covenant" and then read it like that:

"Do we then make void the (Old Covenant) through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the (OLD COVENANT)."

Obviously, no sane New Covenant Christian will claim that the Old Covenant is established by Christians, yet these same antinomianists will continue to insist the Law and the Old Covenant are one one in the same, because in order to maintain their false belief, uncomfortable truth must take a back seat to comforting error.

 

[BroTan]

Hi, many antinomianists insist the Old Covenant and God's Ten Commandment Moral Law are one in the same...so I always ask them to go to Romans 3:31 KJV and replace "law" with "Old Covenant" and then read it like that:

"Do we then make void the (Old Covenant) through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the (OLD COVENANT)."

Obviously, no sane New Covenant Christian will claim that the Old Covenant is established by Christians, yet these same antinomianists will continue to insist the Law and the Old Covenant are one one in the same, because in order to maintain their false belief, uncomfortable truth must take a back seat to comforting error.

Yes I agree and this is why the Lord had the prophets Isaiah say in 8: 16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. 17And I will wait upon the LORD, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. 18 Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion. 20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

So one must understand that you have to both books New & Old Testament to deal with this word of God.