Jesus Christ which are the seven Spirits of God

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i'm not sure exactly of the time, but it's in the first 20 minutes --
the man says that orthodox Jews lie when they say they believe in Torah, and part of his justification for his statement is that he attacks the Jew's lament that they cannot serve God per the Torah by offering sacrifices, because they do not have a temple.
the man says, and it is true, that scripture doesn't record God ever directly commanding that a temple be built. he cites 2 Samuel 7, where David rues the fact that he lives in a grand palace while the ark of God is in just a tent ((the tabernacle)). Nathan tells David, do whatever is in your heart to do about this, because the LORD is with you - but then God speaks to Nathan that night, and reminds him ((& David through Nathan)) that God never asked for anything more than the tabernacle through all the years He was with them in the wilderness, that how can God dwell in a house built by human hands?
then -- and this is an important point -- the LORD goes on to say that David's son, Solomon, will build a temple "for the name of the LORD"


the man in the video gives the argument that the Jews are lying when they say they cannot sacrifice anywhere except the temple.
this is error, explicitly contrary to scripture, and here's why:


the LORD told the people that when they enter the land, He will choose a place for His name ((Deuteronomy 12)) and in many places in giving the ordinances for sacrifices and feasts ((for ex. Deuteronomy 16)) He says that when He has chosen this place "for His name" they must not offer sacrifices anywhere other than that place that He chooses for His name ((see Deuteronomy 12))

this is in fact a very strong proof that the book of mormon is a forgery -- which, for pointing out, i got kicked out of the mormon church's study group that their missionaries had asked me to attend. lol. in the first few chapters of the BOM, the tale is told of a supposed holy man who flees Jerusalem with copies of the Torah. this would be in the time period of Jeremiah, just before the Babylonian captivity - first this supposed man of God prophesies in contradiction to Jeremiah, telling the people in Jerusalem that if they repent, they will not be taken into captivity, though if you actually read Jeremiah, it is clear that God is not going to relent - but then the man determines that they aren't going to repent, steals the Torah from the priests, and runs off into the desert, 'preserving it' and eventually bringing it to the native Americans. here's the problem: this is supposed to be a righteous man in every way, and he not only knows the Torah, but has with him the Torah inscribed on golden plates, and later supposedly teaches it to tens of thousands of people. but guess what he does on his journey? builds altars and offers sacrifices everywhere he goes. NO. this is explicitly forbidden in Deuteronomy 12. and this is all in the first 5 or so chapters of the BOM.

so -- there's another error in video 1: the Torah explicitly tells the Jews not to sacrifice anywhere other than the temple, which is the place God chose for His name, but the man in the video acts like it doesn't & they are free to make sacrifices anywhere they please.
plus, as a bonus, you ((whoever reads my drivel)) have now learned something to talk to the mormon missionary kids who show up at your door and who have probably never read Jeremiah or Deuteronomy before. you can teach them, and maybe be used to lead them to the truth :)
I do not read your analysis of what you believe or even your opinions. I haven't read not one of them.
I count anything you have to say as if the devil is talking to me.

So unless you are doing it for the others you are wasting your time with me.
The reason I told you this is so it is on you and not me.
 

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I do not read your analysis of of what you believe. I haven't read not one of them.
I count anything you have to say as if the devil is talking to me.

So unless you are doing it for the others you are wasting yur time with me.
even though you ask for things and then reject them when they are given to you, this is a public discussion board, and other people reading this thread may be interested in the details of the lies the man in your video tells.

it is not your prerogative to tell me what i can and cannot post or where i can and cannot post. all members are free to post as they may.




i'll listen to your preacher's other video later & give whatever criticism i feel is necessary, regardless of whether you choose to plug your ears and harden your heart or not.
i did in fact have better things to do during my commute home -- i listened to an actual sermon ((you know, one that talks about Jesus?)) from someone else. :)
 
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even though you ask for things and then reject them when they are given to you, this is a public discussion board, and other people reading this thread may be interested in the details of the lies the man in your video tells.

it is not your prerogative to tell me what i can and cannot post or where i can and cannot post. all members are free to post as they may.




i'll listen to your preacher's other video later & give whatever criticism i feel is necessary, regardless of whether you choose to plug your ears and harden your heart or not.
i did in fact have better things to do during my commute home -- i listed to an actual sermon ((you know, one that talks about Jesus?)) from someone else. :)
I will post it again for you so you may get it.

I do not read your analysis of of what you believe. I haven't read a one of them.
I count anything you have to say as if the devil is talking to me.

So unless you are doing it for the others you are wasting your time with me.
 

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I will post it again for you so you may get it.

I do not read your analysis of of what you believe. I haven't read a one of them.
I count anything you have to say as if the devil is talking to me.

So unless you are doing it for the others you are wasting yur time with me.
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
(Galatians 4:16)
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Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
(Galatians 4:16)
___________________________________:unsure:
Even the devil can tell the truth.
Your attempt to justify your motive(and condemn me with a crafty move at the same time)with a verse from the bible
just fell to the ground.
 

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So do you believe it as it is written
or do you believe it as someone
interprets for you?

And hope that they are right?

That is the real question.
I think many of us encounter a verse that we don’t understand and somehow believe that maybe another’s confident interpretation can be implanted into them....Sorry but I don’t think it is that easy or supposed to be.

Like in high school, asking a friend for the answers to a pop quiz, without studying themself. 🙂

As I continually read the Bible, I recognize verses that don’t sit well CURRENTLY....I chalk this up to it just not being the right time for its full meaning to be revealed from above.
 

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Tell us what you learned from his explanation.
This prophesy, yet to be fulfilled : -

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; (Isa 11:1-2 KJV)
 

kaylagrl

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When something is fulfilled it is done away with it.

I fulfilled my obligation.

How many times are you going to be wrong before you are right?

So it's ok if I murder you? Again Christ fulfilled it. You have no obligation here except stop spreading false doctrine, try that.
 

kaylagrl

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If you are seeking the truth
you must seek it where you can find it
if you want to find it.
~ unknown2you
The Truth is in the Bible. We can find it for ourselves. No one needs your false doctrines.
 

kaylagrl

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If what you are seeking is not where you are seeking
then you will not find what you are seeking.
~ unknown2you

This is one method of knowing the motive of anyone who post anything to me.

What are they seeking?
Why do you ask for things that you don't actually want, and reject when you receive them?

You are weird.
Annoying little monkey ain't he? rofl
 

kaylagrl

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I do not read your analysis of what you believe or even your opinions. I haven't read not one of them.
I count anything you have to say as if the devil is talking to me.

So unless you are doing it for the others you are wasting your time with me.
The reason I told you this is so it is on you and not me.


Are you calling him the devil?? Or influenced by the devil?! Because that is reportable. Our brother is well thought of here, and you are maligning his character. I don't think I'm the only one here that finds that offensive and believes you owe him an apology. But you're too arrogant to give it.
 
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Are you calling him the devil?? Or influenced by the devil?! Because that is reportable. Our brother is well thought of here, and you are maligning his character. I don't think I'm the only one here that finds that offensive and believes you owe him an apology. But you're too arrogant to give it.
When you say anything to me
I consider it as if a person possessed with many evil spirits has said it to me.

Is that plain enough for you?
 
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I think many of us encounter a verse that we don’t understand and somehow believe that maybe another’s confident interpretation can be implanted into them....Sorry but I don’t think it is that easy or supposed to be.

Like in high school, asking a friend for the answers to a pop quiz, without studying themself. 🙂

As I continually read the Bible, I recognize verses that don’t sit well CURRENTLY....I chalk this up to it just not being the right time for its full meaning to be revealed from above.
What does this verse in the bible mean to you?
Matthew 13:11
He answered and said unto them,
Because it is given unto you
to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven,
but to them it is not given.
 
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This prophesy, yet to be fulfilled : -

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; (Isa 11:1-2 KJV)
Every child of God has all those traits.
Those are all inherited from God at birth.
 
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The children of God are born with the traits and instincts of God.
They inherit them from God for He is their Father
and He passes it on to them.
 
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Are you calling him the devil?? Or influenced by the devil?! Because that is reportable. Our brother is well thought of here, and you are maligning his character. I don't think I'm the only one here that finds that offensive and believes you owe him an apology. But you're too arrogant to give it.
I have already accomplished
that to which the Seven Spirits of God sent me to do here on this forum.

So your threats are falling upon deaf ears.
 

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Every child of God has all those traits.
Those are all inherited from God at birth.
The prophesy in (Isa 11:1-2) is about the Messiah!

These are the seven Spirits of God that are being discussed in this thread.

And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

And you dismiss the Almighty by saying "Every child of God has all those traits."

May God preserve us. You need to be banned.