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Blackpowderduelist

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Calling the martyred saints pagan is however mocking.
 
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I am looking at church history, Which in the end, Was formed and maintained by the catholic church.
If I was to include the RCC I no doubt would see such corruption which ironically leads to the choosing of the 66 Books of our own Canon. But I am discussing Disciples of Apostles and their Disciples. Many which are not remotely connected to the RCC.
 
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I was raised a baptist. And one thing I have learned is that when we get outside of scripture. We are risking being followers of men and not followers of God.

When the reformation happened. Many of the pagan beliefs were disavowed. Sadly. Many of the other false doctrines came with them.

When we try to use history to prove those doctrines are right. Instead of using the word of God, we risk believing in a false theology.

Now if you want o risk that, thats fine. But to tell me because I chose to do what the word of God says, to study to shew myself approved, and to test all spirits.. Well forgive me, I was stuck in my denomination, until I actually started to study. I praise God I did this, or I would still be stuck in some issues which are not from God.
Here is my specific Arguments for Church fathers vs not.

When i make a stand for Church Fathers it's related to topics like, John told his Disciples Matthew wrote his Gospel in early 40 A.D. in the Hebrew Language before it later was copied and best interpreted into Greek.
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That has no bearing on Scripture itself.
But it is a historical fact within Church History.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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I asked a legitimate question which you refused to acknowledge and instead chose
to falsely accuse me. Now you play the victim card and think you are justified.
FYI? Falsely accusing people of things they did not do is not kindness.
Yet you repeatedly do it while crying about lack of kindness.
Sorry, but your attitude is such that you'll be added to my block list. What a shame.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I stopped talking to you but you kept engaging me. Disagreement isn't mocking.
You did not just disagree, you stated history proved me wrong, I asked you to use inspired proof.
 

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If this is true, You know NO ONE WHO IS SAVED (this must include yourself)

Your the one who said it. If you made a mistake please confess and rephrase. But it is your claim. Own up to it.
When did I ever say that I am not saved? You said those words . . . not myself.

Please . . . I respected you. Let's stop this "way" with each other, for it does not reflect the Mind of Christ.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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If I was to include the RCC I no doubt would see such corruption which ironically leads to the choosing of the 66 Books of our own Canon. But I am discussing Disciples of Apostles and their Disciples. Many which are not remotely connected to the RCC.
so you put there words above scripture?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Are you Trinity or Oneness?
The Creeds are all Triune.
I do not follow creeds, I follow the word of God

if the word agrees with a certain creed, well that does not mean I follow a creed.

I stopped following men when I left denominational church,
 

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The Gospel of Christ is SIMPLICITY itself.
That's amazing, considering that I've been in the church for all 53 years of my life, and no one has ever told me what the Gospel is.

And you now going to attempt to tell me that my experiences are wrong? I hope not.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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When did I ever say that I am not saved? You said those words . . . not myself.

Please . . . I respected you. Let's stop this "way" with each other, for it does not reflect the Mind of Christ.
You said you know no one who k own the gospel truth

ypu can’t be saved by a false gospel, and according to Paul anyone who teaches a different gospel is damned

maybe try to reread what you wrote and rephrase it
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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I never called the martyred apostles pagan

get your facts straight dude
I didn't say Apostles that's more dishonesty from you. I said saints. And the saints that I referenced were martyred and you did call them pagan.