jesus saves corrupt sinners.

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Reborn

Reborn

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Jeff_56 said:
yes, so you say. but you don't post like someone who's been saved. you and reborn keep attacking those who post scripture, when GOD'S WORD isn't to your liking.
and others, too, have pointed out the
confusion and the fighting that is here for the last ten years (go read old posts since you haven't been here that long. i've only been here a short time, and read enough of the old posts,
and
there's been a lot of comments about the confusion here. )


i didn't come to challenge your salvation. i'd rather prove you are saved. but you keep attacking those who post the truth, the scripture.... if you are saved, you should not act that way.
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Thanks RR.
I didn't see this, until l read your post.

I don't read his posts. It usually is just vomit, and his wording is just as sloppy as his post content.

I owe you nothing Jeff, what you feel or think about me matters zero.
When are you going to get that through your head?
 
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Jeff_56

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Rosesrock said:
Im trying to follow since i think you're talking to me and someone at the same time...i dont need to read past posts, im trying to figure out why it's your job to prove to anyone that they are saved since the relationship with God is individual
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there are the unsaved, as well as the saved. is that so hard to see? the unsaved wolves tear the saved flock apart as much as they can.

if someone is a corrupt sinner, Jesus can save them. this forum, their church, a 'formula' , etc (all the devices and schemes men and satan use) cannot save them, or anyone.

Jesus saves corrupt sinners. for someone passing through or already here, that is the GOOD NEWS.

that GOOD NEWS is swallowed up / almost invisible (on the internet) in the plethora of posts daily by unbelievers,
and by the attacks of the wolves on everyone.

i.e. few helpful , many not helpful, to saving souls. too much arguing.
 
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Sirk

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Reborn said:
Thanks RR.
I didn't see this, until l read your post.

I don't read his posts. It usually is just vomit, and his wording is just as sloppy as his post content.

I owe you nothing Jeff, what you feel or think about me matters zero.
When are you going to get that through your head?
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He matters to me....like a crazy uncle. They are pretty fun ya know...if you can just keep the right perspective.
 
crossnote

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Jeff_56 said:
jesus still saves corrupt sinners. you two might want to ask him for his help. he might save you.
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"corrupt sinners" isn't that being redundant? What sinners aren't corrupt?
 
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Sirk

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Jeff_56 said:
there are the unsaved, as well as the saved. is that so hard to see? the unsaved wolves tear the saved flock apart as much as they can.

if someone is a corrupt sinner, Jesus can save them. this forum, their church, a 'formula' , etc (all the devices and schemes men and satan use) cannot save them, or anyone.

Jesus saves corrupt sinners. for someone passing through or already here, that is the GOOD NEWS.

that GOOD NEWS is swallowed up / almost invisible (on the internet) in the plethora of posts daily by unbelievers,
and by the attacks of the wolves on everyone.

i.e. few helpful , many not helpful, to saving souls. too much arguing.
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Ya...it's tough being Jeff...we get it....when you have all the answers and truth and nobody wants to listen it's just heartbreaking.
 
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Sirk said:
How many times have you called me satan Jeff? You imply in nearly every post that myself and others are going to hell. I'd rather you say it to me than someone who is in a precarious emotional position.....so I challenge you...and you don't like it..and thats fine.... but it doesn't mean I'll stop.
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you acted like, and posted like, the enemy, many times, before i ever knew and everyone could see who you were serving.

even those in "precarious emotional positions" you still lie right in front of them. then if or when it is pointed out , you deny it , very much like the rcc heresy denies that it is heresy.

stick to scripture, and you'll find yourself in agreement with me. not because i figured it out,
but
because i stick to scripture, and you could have the good shepherd Jesus guide you and teach you if you were willing. not if you are not willing. see?
 
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Sirk

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Jeff_56 said:
you acted like, and posted like, the enemy, many times, before i ever knew and everyone could see who you were serving.

even those in "precarious emotional positions" you still lie right in front of them. then if or when it is pointed out , you deny it , very much like the rcc heresy denies that it is heresy.

stick to scripture, and you'll find yourself in agreement with me. not because i figured it out,
but
because i stick to scripture, and you could have the good shepherd Jesus guide you and teach you if you were willing. not if you are not willing. see?
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Everything in the bible is true Jeff....but not everything that is true is in the bible.
 
JesusLives

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Blond has an exercise for everyone........Walk up to this and take a GOOD LOOK......full length no less......What do you see?



You have now seen a corrupt sinner.....yep that's right we all need a Savior and forgiveness from sins.......
 
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a lot of sinners think they are 'clean' sinners, or 'okay' sinners, not too bad.


as corrie ten boom pointed out decades ago, as it is in Scripture,

the only ones Jesus can't help are the ones who think they are good. i.e. not so bad, not corrupt.

mentally admitting to themselves that they are a sinner, but not realizing they are totally corrupt, has led to (or been caused by) a lot of deception by the enemy.

when someone is detestable in God's Sight, and then gets saved, all the angels in heaven rejoice over that one,
and that one is so grateful and thankful and full of praise for God and seeks in every way to honor God who saved them by the blood of Jesus.

some who never thought of themselves as corrupt and detestable, thing God owes them a favor or that God is so lucky to get them on His Side. !!

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"corrupt sinners" isn't that being redundant? What sinners aren't corrupt?
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Reborn

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JesusLives said:
Blond has an exercise for everyone........Walk up to this and take a GOOD LOOK......full length no less......What do you see?



You have now seen a corrupt sinner.....yep that's right we all need a Savior and forgiveness from sins.......
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I admit l sin.


Jeff does not.
He's a troll. They are better at making cookies than handing out advice.
 
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Rosesrock

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Jeff_56 said:
there are the unsaved, as well as the saved. is that so hard to see? the unsaved wolves tear the saved flock apart as much as they can.

if someone is a corrupt sinner, Jesus can save them. this forum, their church, a 'formula' , etc (all the devices and schemes men and satan use) cannot save them, or anyone.

Jesus saves corrupt sinners. for someone passing through or already here, that is the GOOD NEWS.

that GOOD NEWS is swallowed up / almost invisible (on the internet) in the plethora of posts daily by unbelievers,
and by the attacks of the wolves on everyone.

i.e. few helpful , many not helpful, to saving souls. too much arguing.
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I appreciate your time, jeff but you didnt answer my question
 
JesusLives

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My question I guess would be....... Why does it sound like you assume we are all not saved?

How can anyone know for absolutely positive a person is not saved when this is an individual work between God and the sinner?

Maybe this thread would be better on a non-Christian site to prompt them for a need of salvation rather than accusing people of not being saved when we really don't know each other except for our posting?????

Blond is just wondering that's all.....
 
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JesusLives said:
Blond has an exercise for everyone........Walk up to this and take a GOOD LOOK......full length no less......What do you see?

You have now seen a corrupt sinner.....yep that's right we all need a Savior and forgiveness from sins.......
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thank you. that's kind of the point of this thread - the true message of GOOD NEWS that JESUS can save someone (visiting/passing through/staying a while)

even that HE DESIRES TO SAVE THEM. but like Jerusalem at the time when He spoke over her in the Gospel, many are not willing.... NOT WILLING TO BE SAVED!

well,
this is GOOD NEWS FOR THOSE WHO KNOW THEY ARE CORRUPT SINNERS, and want to be saved.

as everyone can see, the wolves don't like the GOOD NEWS and are trying to keep others from being saved.

don't let the wolves win. keep seeking Jesus, and calling on JESUS, to get HIS HELP ....
 
crossnote

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Jeff_56 said:
a lot of sinners think they are 'clean' sinners, or 'okay' sinners, not too bad.


as corrie ten boom pointed out decades ago, as it is in Scripture,

the only ones Jesus can't help are the ones who think they are good. i.e. not so bad, not corrupt.

mentally admitting to themselves that they are a sinner, but not realizing they are totally corrupt, has led to (or been caused by) a lot of deception by the enemy.

when someone is detestable in God's Sight, and then gets saved, all the angels in heaven rejoice over that one,
and that one is so grateful and thankful and full of praise for God and seeks in every way to honor God who saved them by the blood of Jesus.

some who never thought of themselves as corrupt and detestable, thing God owes them a favor or that God is so lucky to get them on His Side. !!
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My bible says 'Jesus saves sinners' it makes no man made distinction.
 
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crossnote said:
My bible says 'Jesus saves sinners' it makes no man made distinction.
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Maybe it's easier if we can just classify sinners like makes of cars....Ford pinto....amc eagle....Ferrari....chevy citation etc. Then at least we can know what the biggest pieces of crap are.
 
achildofGod

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Rose, Jeff won't answer. Him and Jason and a few
others fell off the same boat.
 
crossnote

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JesusLives said:
My question I guess would be....... Why does it sound like you assume we are all not saved?

How can anyone know for absolutely positive a person is not saved when this is an individual work between God and the sinner?

Maybe this thread would be better on a non-Christian site to prompt them for a need of salvation rather than accusing people of not being saved when we really don't know each other except for our posting?????

Blond is just wondering that's all.....
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Blond wonders too deeply (for blonds), some day she'll wander off :p
 
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