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yeah and they are ludicrous -- here is a quote from one publisher:
The Silent Voices Bible is the Holy Christian Bible with the gender of each character swapped — including God. Male roles are played by women, and female roles are played by men, even in gender-specific circumstances (like reproduction). There will be some dissonance as you read about men giving birth and women "spilling their seed". I have also left all the character names the same with a few exceptions: King David is Queen Davina, and the prophet Samuel is now Samantha.
The Silent Voices Bible is the Holy Christian Bible with the gender of each character swapped — including God. Male roles are played by women, and female roles are played by men, even in gender-specific circumstances (like reproduction). There will be some dissonance as you read about men giving birth and women "spilling their seed". I have also left all the character names the same with a few exceptions: King David is Queen Davina, and the prophet Samuel is now Samantha.
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Here's what the SVB, the Silent Voices Bible (the feminist bible) declares:
"for God is not a God of confusion, but of peace. As in all the assemblies of the saints, let your husbands keep silent in the assemblies, for it has not been permitted for them to speak; but let them be in subjection, as the law also says. If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own wives at home, for it is shameful for man to chatter in the assembly. What? Was it from you that the word of God went out? Or did it come to you alone? If any woman thinks herself to be a prophetess, or spiritual, let her recognize the things which I write to you that they are the commandment of the Domina. But if anyone is ignorant, let her be ignorant." 1 Corinthians 14:33-38 SVB
"Let a man learn in quietness with all subjection. But I don't permit a man to teach nor to exercise authority over a woman, but to be in quietness. For Ada was formed first formed, then Evan. Ada wasn't deceived, but the man, being deceived, has fallen into disobedience." 1 Timothy 2:11-14 SVB
Now here's the real kicker:
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and women, the woman Christ Jesus, who gave herself as a ransom for all; the testimony in its own times; to which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth in Christ; not lying) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth." 1 Timothy 2:5-7 SVB (emphasis mine added)
Really, Paula was is not lying here? And yes, the "bible translator" here renamed all the male figures as feminine.
How about the most popular and well known verse in the Bible?
"For God so loved the world, that she gave her one and only Daughter, that whoever believes in her should not perish, but have eternal life." John 3:16 SVB
I am afraid for the OP, that her unhealthy interest in "Christian feminism" would lead her to recieve such a blasphemous "Bible" translation. This is exactly why those here who are opposed to the idea of religious feminism are speaking against it! And I am definitely afraid for the person(s) that rewrote the Bible in this way. I hope that they aren't actually blaspheming the Holy Spirit as it is the only unforgivable sin. If anything is for sure, they are adding and taking away from Revelation which says:
"I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophey of this book, if anyone adds to them, may God add to her the plagues which are written in this book. If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, may God take away her part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18-19 SVB
The entire book of Revelation has been altered. This is why feminism in Christianity doesn't belong. It subverts the word of God to such a level it is beyond ignorance and arrogance! And now here's a good verse to quote (using their "Bible"):
"But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you any "good news" other than that which we preached to you, let her be cursed. As we have said before, so I now say again: if any woman preaches to you any "good news" other than that which you received, ler her be cursed." Galatians 1:8 SVB
And you know how in Matthew 23 Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and said that no one should be called "Father" other than our heavenly Father?
"While she was yet speaking to the multitudes, behold, her father and her sisters stood outside, seeking to speak to her. One said to her, "Behold, your and your sisters stand outside, seeking to speak to you. But she answered her who spoke to her, "Who is my father? Who are my sisters?" She stretched out her hand towards her disciples, and said, "Behold, my father and my sisters! For whoever does the will of my Mother who is in heaven, she is my sister, and brother, and father."
Blaspheming the Father in heaven are we? And in looking at this next verse notice how female was put before male, rather than how our normal Bible reads
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free woman, there is neither female nor male, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28 SVB (emphasis mine added)
It is blatantly obvious that that this "Christian" feminist puts women before men, that they are superior to man. If these bias women didn't think they were masters of humanity and all men everywhere they wouldn't have rewritten the Bible in this mannor:
"For woman is not from man, but man from woman; for neither was woman created for the man, but man for the woman." 1 Corinthians 11:8-9 SVB
To reiterate, I am very scared for people like the OP because they may stumble into a mess such as this and profane what is holy. This is nothing more than a doctrine of demons taught by seducing spirits. Such apostasy! This SVB translation is obviously not a joke but is serious to the con artist who wrote such blasphemy. There is no place for Christian feminism in our faith. May God have mercy.
"for God is not a God of confusion, but of peace. As in all the assemblies of the saints, let your husbands keep silent in the assemblies, for it has not been permitted for them to speak; but let them be in subjection, as the law also says. If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own wives at home, for it is shameful for man to chatter in the assembly. What? Was it from you that the word of God went out? Or did it come to you alone? If any woman thinks herself to be a prophetess, or spiritual, let her recognize the things which I write to you that they are the commandment of the Domina. But if anyone is ignorant, let her be ignorant." 1 Corinthians 14:33-38 SVB
"Let a man learn in quietness with all subjection. But I don't permit a man to teach nor to exercise authority over a woman, but to be in quietness. For Ada was formed first formed, then Evan. Ada wasn't deceived, but the man, being deceived, has fallen into disobedience." 1 Timothy 2:11-14 SVB
Now here's the real kicker:
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and women, the woman Christ Jesus, who gave herself as a ransom for all; the testimony in its own times; to which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth in Christ; not lying) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth." 1 Timothy 2:5-7 SVB (emphasis mine added)
Really, Paula was is not lying here? And yes, the "bible translator" here renamed all the male figures as feminine.
How about the most popular and well known verse in the Bible?
"For God so loved the world, that she gave her one and only Daughter, that whoever believes in her should not perish, but have eternal life." John 3:16 SVB
I am afraid for the OP, that her unhealthy interest in "Christian feminism" would lead her to recieve such a blasphemous "Bible" translation. This is exactly why those here who are opposed to the idea of religious feminism are speaking against it! And I am definitely afraid for the person(s) that rewrote the Bible in this way. I hope that they aren't actually blaspheming the Holy Spirit as it is the only unforgivable sin. If anything is for sure, they are adding and taking away from Revelation which says:
"I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophey of this book, if anyone adds to them, may God add to her the plagues which are written in this book. If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, may God take away her part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18-19 SVB
The entire book of Revelation has been altered. This is why feminism in Christianity doesn't belong. It subverts the word of God to such a level it is beyond ignorance and arrogance! And now here's a good verse to quote (using their "Bible"):
"But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you any "good news" other than that which we preached to you, let her be cursed. As we have said before, so I now say again: if any woman preaches to you any "good news" other than that which you received, ler her be cursed." Galatians 1:8 SVB
And you know how in Matthew 23 Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and said that no one should be called "Father" other than our heavenly Father?
"While she was yet speaking to the multitudes, behold, her father and her sisters stood outside, seeking to speak to her. One said to her, "Behold, your and your sisters stand outside, seeking to speak to you. But she answered her who spoke to her, "Who is my father? Who are my sisters?" She stretched out her hand towards her disciples, and said, "Behold, my father and my sisters! For whoever does the will of my Mother who is in heaven, she is my sister, and brother, and father."
Blaspheming the Father in heaven are we? And in looking at this next verse notice how female was put before male, rather than how our normal Bible reads
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free woman, there is neither female nor male, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28 SVB (emphasis mine added)
It is blatantly obvious that that this "Christian" feminist puts women before men, that they are superior to man. If these bias women didn't think they were masters of humanity and all men everywhere they wouldn't have rewritten the Bible in this mannor:
"For woman is not from man, but man from woman; for neither was woman created for the man, but man for the woman." 1 Corinthians 11:8-9 SVB
To reiterate, I am very scared for people like the OP because they may stumble into a mess such as this and profane what is holy. This is nothing more than a doctrine of demons taught by seducing spirits. Such apostasy! This SVB translation is obviously not a joke but is serious to the con artist who wrote such blasphemy. There is no place for Christian feminism in our faith. May God have mercy.
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We've had threads on this. If you define 'feminist' as someone who wants to stick up for women, a lot of patriarchal men are feminists. But when we hear 'feminist' these days, many of us think of radical feminists.
Did Jesus believe that there was an evil patriarchy who were keeping women down, and that it was evil for men to be in charge? Well, He affirmed the Torah, so that doesn't fit with a theory that He was a radical feminist.
You aren't being too nice to poor marry Magdalene. There is no reason to think she was a slut. In some sermon in the middle ages, one man suggested she might be the woman who washed Jesus' feet with her hair. But there is no reason to think that's her. And who has ever proposed that she was the woman caught in adultery?
She could have been a really nice lady who lived a pious life before she met Christ, and here you are calling her a slut.
Jesus Father gave Moses' laws that were patriarchal. Husbands could cancel his wife's vow. Land inheritance passed through the male line. Jesus sent Paul who told wives to submit to their own husbands.
Did Jesus believe that there was an evil patriarchy who were keeping women down, and that it was evil for men to be in charge? Well, He affirmed the Torah, so that doesn't fit with a theory that He was a radical feminist.
You aren't being too nice to poor marry Magdalene. There is no reason to think she was a slut. In some sermon in the middle ages, one man suggested she might be the woman who washed Jesus' feet with her hair. But there is no reason to think that's her. And who has ever proposed that she was the woman caught in adultery?
She could have been a really nice lady who lived a pious life before she met Christ, and here you are calling her a slut.
Jesus Father gave Moses' laws that were patriarchal. Husbands could cancel his wife's vow. Land inheritance passed through the male line. Jesus sent Paul who told wives to submit to their own husbands.
I think you may be brainwashed by feminism in the media as far as the western world is concerned. Objectification? Maybe if you mean more sexy photos of women all over the place and objectification in porn. But salary discrimination? Probably not when you control for a number of variables like hazardous work conditions, exposure to the elements, time out of the workforce and working over 40 hours a week. Some research exists suggesting women are paid better than men (in the US) when you control for these things. Women also gravitate toward some lower paying professions like social work and being school teachers.
But then there are minority scholarships for women to go to college, and more girls in college than boys, nowadays. Men are portrayed as idiots in the media, especially fathers. And now there a lot of girl power cartoons with a powerful heroine and a weak or goofy male characters. Look at Disney movies like Brave or cartoons like Kim Possible.
Women tend to be physically weaker, and so the violence issue is a concern. Feminism doesn't seem to be a good solution to it. The type of philosophy that feminism promotes makes it less likely that responsible males will escort women home safely at night. Some of the radical feminists are all into women being sexually empowered and goes hand in hand with a pro-fornication philosophy.
One of my concerns about so-called Christian feminism is that it is often the case of human beings coming up with their own concepts of 'justice' and assuming God backs them up.
Is having a society where women primarily work in the home, where the husband is the head of household unjust? If passing land through male heirs were unjust, God would not have given the law. If men being able to cancel their wives' vows was unjust, God wouldn't have given the law. The New Testament says that the Law is holy, just, and good.
The idea of gender-sameness that this movement promotes had to have some kind of hand in the rise of the gay rights movement where people are given special legal protection because of perverted sexual preferences. The LGBT rights movement is another extreme example of people coming up with their own idea of justice. And some people expect God to back up their concept of justice which is contrary to what He has revealed through the Bible and through nature.
But then there are minority scholarships for women to go to college, and more girls in college than boys, nowadays. Men are portrayed as idiots in the media, especially fathers. And now there a lot of girl power cartoons with a powerful heroine and a weak or goofy male characters. Look at Disney movies like Brave or cartoons like Kim Possible.
Women tend to be physically weaker, and so the violence issue is a concern. Feminism doesn't seem to be a good solution to it. The type of philosophy that feminism promotes makes it less likely that responsible males will escort women home safely at night. Some of the radical feminists are all into women being sexually empowered and goes hand in hand with a pro-fornication philosophy.
One of my concerns about so-called Christian feminism is that it is often the case of human beings coming up with their own concepts of 'justice' and assuming God backs them up.
Is having a society where women primarily work in the home, where the husband is the head of household unjust? If passing land through male heirs were unjust, God would not have given the law. If men being able to cancel their wives' vows was unjust, God wouldn't have given the law. The New Testament says that the Law is holy, just, and good.
The idea of gender-sameness that this movement promotes had to have some kind of hand in the rise of the gay rights movement where people are given special legal protection because of perverted sexual preferences. The LGBT rights movement is another extreme example of people coming up with their own idea of justice. And some people expect God to back up their concept of justice which is contrary to what He has revealed through the Bible and through nature.
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I've got an idea. How about all of us boycott this thread since the OP seems to have vanished from this thread, anyway? Also, yes, she appears to be a troll. All of us have our own views on feminism based on which region we are from, and from what we have experienced personally.
Christianfeminist, people here have stood up for you (not standing up for your post, but for you), and asked other people not to be mean. But, from what I see, you are personally attacking people through PMs and yes, commenting things like "eww this is so gross" on other people's threads (Godly woman, for instance). That is wrong. And, terribly sad.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and to what they believe in. Also, we all seem to be quite strong-minded people
What do you all say? Who's up for boycotting this thread?
Christianfeminist, people here have stood up for you (not standing up for your post, but for you), and asked other people not to be mean. But, from what I see, you are personally attacking people through PMs and yes, commenting things like "eww this is so gross" on other people's threads (Godly woman, for instance). That is wrong. And, terribly sad.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and to what they believe in. Also, we all seem to be quite strong-minded people
What do you all say? Who's up for boycotting this thread?
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Oh wow... if ever I need a dose of drama... now I know where to come... lol *grabs a bag of popcorn and tunes into the bible discussion forum*
But on a more serious note, I believe in equality between sexes and I know that submission doesn't render a woman unequal to men or beneath them... we are all equal in the body of Christ. I believe that when Christ defended woman, He did not do so based on their gender. He reached out to the lost... so it does not matter if you are man or woman, God still loves you and will defend you... Gender has nothing to do with His unconditional love!
But on a more serious note, I believe in equality between sexes and I know that submission doesn't render a woman unequal to men or beneath them... we are all equal in the body of Christ. I believe that when Christ defended woman, He did not do so based on their gender. He reached out to the lost... so it does not matter if you are man or woman, God still loves you and will defend you... Gender has nothing to do with His unconditional love!