Jesus's Replacement Theology

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Give me the Book and Chapter and the verse where it is written that the Word,
Jesus the Christ said exactly what you said to me.
Then we will compare it with the Word, Jesus the Christ.
that I have already posted.
Oh, are you a 'red letter' christian?
Why don't you get to your point on 'Replacement', so there can be a conversation?
 
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Oh, are you a 'red letter' christian?
Why don't you get to your point on 'Replacement', so there can be a conversation?
You and I have been conversing.
I find the words of Jesus the Christ to be the most truthful,
of all other words.

I feel very Wise.
 
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There was a certain householder,
which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about,
and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower,
and let it out to husbandmen,
and went into a far country:

And when the time of the fruit drew near,
he sent his servants to the husbandmen,
that they might receive the fruits of it.

And the husbandmen took his servants,
and beat one, and killed another,
and stoned another.

Again, he sent other servants more than the first:
and they did unto them likewise.

But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying,
They will reverence my son.

But when the husbandmen saw the son,
they said among themselves, This is the heir; come,
let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.

And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard,
and slew him.

When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh,
what will he do unto those husbandmen?

They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men,
and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen,
which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

Jesus saith unto them,
Did ye never read in the scriptures,
The stone which the builders rejected,
the same is become the head of the corner:
this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Therefore say I unto you,
The kingdom of God shall be taken from you,
and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken:
but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables,
they perceived that he spake of them.

But when they sought to lay hands on him,
they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.
The Lord God,
redeemed Him a people,
out of slavery, and sent a man
named Moses, which by the hand of God,
brought them up out of Egypt and give them
a land of milk and honey.


And in the process of time,
God sent his prophets to the children of Israel,
that they might know His word and become a peculiar people
great and holy to God, above all other people on earth.


And the children of Israel, took his prophets,
and beat one, and killed another,
and stoned another.


Again, God sent other prophets more than the first:
and the children of Israel, did unto them as they had done to
the other prophets.


But last of all God sent unto the children of Israel,
Jesus the Christ, His only begotten son, saying,
They will reverence my salvation to them, their Messiah.


But when the children of Israel, saw Jesus the Christ, God's
only begotten son, they said among themselves,
This man hath a devil, and the things
He does and says are of the devil. Come let us kill Him.


And the Children of Israel, tried and convicted,
Jesus the Christ,
God's only begotten Son of blasphemy.
And they delivered Him up to the heathens to be put to death.


When the Lord God therefore of the heavens
and the heaven and the earth, executes judgement,
what will He do unto these children of Israel?


They replied unto him, the Lord God will take His name and blessing
from this wicked nation, and give it unto other nation,
which shall render God, a peculiar people, great and holy to God,
above all other people on earth.


Jesus saith unto them,
Did ye never read in the scriptures,
The God which the children of Israel, rejected,
the same shall become King of a peculiar people,
great and holy to God, above all other people on earth:
this is the Lord's God doing, and it is marvelous in
the eyes of the children of God.


Therefore say I unto you,
The name and blessing of God shall be taken from you,
and given to a nation bringing forth a peculiar people
great and holy to God, above all other people on earth.



And whosoever shall rise up against this nation, shall be defeated:
but on whomsoever this nation shall come against, it will defeat.


And when the children of Israel, had heard His prophecy,
they knew that He spake this word, upon them and their nation.


But when they sought to lay hands on him,
they could not for it was not given to them from heaven,
to do so at that time.
 

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Joel 2:25-32 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.
And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.
And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
 
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Joel 2:25-32 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.
And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.
And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
We shall see who words come to pass. I am taking the words of Jesus Christ.
 
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#48
All of Scripture is GOD'S WORD.
Do you believe that everything written in the bible is scripture? If you say, yes,
tell me in your own words , why you believe everything written in the bible, is scripture?
 

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#49
Do you believe that everything written in the bible is scripture? If you say, yes,
tell me in your own words , why you believe everything written in the bible, is scripture?

do you not believe that?
which part of the Bible do you reject? why?
 
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#50

do you not believe that?
which part of the Bible do you reject? why?
After he and I finish discussing the conversation he and I are having,
I will address what you have said to me.


I am waiting for his answer, first.
 

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#51
We shall see who words come to pass. I am taking the words of Jesus Christ.
i believe Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, and that Joel is a prophet of this very God, and i know that every word that God speaks cannot fail to accomplish the purpose He spoke it for.
:)
 

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well the simple answer is with a Christian nation which at one time, about a thousand years ago, at first glance, would appear the entire Western group of nations, but if you take a good look at Christianity as it was then encountered, it would appear to resemble the current Muslim extremists. The real answer is God will replace Israel and the Jeues with people who He has remade into the spiritual image of Jesus, although we will be Christians first. Today the closest "nation" to fit the bill, would be our good ol' USA, even if we do have a Muslim president, a communist cabinet, and an athiest (non-believing) Senate.

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with knowledge on loan from God
 
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i believe Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, and that Joel is a prophet of this very God, and i know that every word that God speaks cannot fail to accomplish the purpose He spoke it for.
:)
And how would any of us know if this you have told us concerning you, is actually the truth?
 

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And how would any of us know if this you have told us concerning you, is actually the truth?
whose is it to know?
it's the glory of a King to search out a matter.

i read, and heard, and believed. i know because a Spirit in me testifies to me of Truth.
 
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whose is it to know?
it's the glory of a King to search out a matter.

i read, and heard, and believed. i know because a Spirit in me testifies to me of Truth.
You did not answer the question I asked you. You gave me a spin, for an answer.

You tried to ambush me, but it did not work for you.
 
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#56
Do you believe that everything written in the bible is scripture? If you say, yes,
tell me in your own words , why you believe everything written in the bible, is scripture?
Why in my own words.?
There is a higher Authority than me that says it is so.
 
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Why in my own words.?
There is a higher Authority than me that says it is so.
So if I prove, undeniable, that not everything written in the bible is scripture, as you have just said,

"There is a higher Authority than me that says it is so."

Will you admit to us, you are of the devil?

Yes or no?
 

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You did not answer the question I asked you. You gave me a spin, for an answer.
because it's not for me to cause you to know.
even if i show you math, if you do not take my axioms by faith, it's not proof to you.

i can tell you that i know, but you may find that insufficient. i can tell you what the scripture says, but because my question isn't answered (post #49-50), will you accept what the prophets and the psalms say?
 
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because it's not for me to cause you to know.
even if i show you math, if you do not take my axioms by faith, it's not proof to you.

i can tell you that i know, but you may find that insufficient. i can tell you what the scripture says, but because my question isn't answered (post #49-50), will you accept what the prophets and the psalms say?
I do not accept you. You have already contradicted yourself.
Besides you tried to sneak up on me and bushwhack me.

And you duck and dodge direct questions I ask you.

Now if I have said wrong, then prove it.

Go back and answer the direct questions I asked you.
 
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I do not accept you.
that's cool; you don't have to accept me.
do you accept the Word spoken through Isaiah?

So is My word that goeth out of My mouth,
It turneth not back unto Me empty,
But hath done that which I desired,
And prosperously effected that for which I sent it.

(Isaiah 55:11)

you can know that God's word does not fail to accomplish His purpose if you believe that.
hope it answers your question better than i could :)