Joyce Meyer said what!?!
- Thread starter Stephen63
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
oh, we were talking about 'the best grunge band.'
your profile says you are 38; i'm 39. i don't lie on my profile.
i listen to a lot of things
i have one of those USB things in my car stereo - about 10GB of music on it right now i shuffle through, with all kinds of genres, and ages -- the oldest thing on it is a collection of liturgical sonatas from the late 17th century; there are also 3 albums of gospel folk/blues songs from the 1920's and as things as new as hymns of worship, verbatim scripture set to unblack metal, and hip-hop teaching & expounding about the gospel from 2016, the newest being less than 2 weeks old ((just got a new Rivers & Robots album)).
but as far as grunge goes - a sub-genre of 'alt-rock' music that appeared in the mid-late 80's and lasted to the latter part of the 90's, mostly out of the Seattle area - it's difficult to 'rank' bands and always a subjective mess open to argument. but i stand by my statement about Sonic Youth being the 'granddaddy' of both Nirvana & AIC, and that commercial success aside, they were (and still are - they've been on 'hiatus' for a while AFAIK tho i don't really keep up with any secular artists anymore) musically more profound, accomplished and technically innovative. EVOL never sold that many copies, but it inspired a whole slew of people who became the 'pillars of grunge music' to form their garage bands and start playing music that had this kind of sludgy, melodic rock sound in the first place.
.. & if i had to pick between Nirvana and AIC, i'd have to side with bushido on that one. they were just all-around more groovy, with less 'fluff' and dead-end tracks.
Last edited:
As far as the million dollar lifestyles go, living large off of grandmas back, did anyone see this memorial day tribute to the fallen over the weekend? I cant think of the guys name and his wife. A minister, so called. I got a red light in my spirit so i googled the guy. He lives on donations for his ministry, so called. He's having a 4 million dollar lakeside home built. ( gee, i guess he works another job on the side).
His salary is a million and a half dollars a year. Poor slob. How does he ever survive.
Then we collectively cuss the government for untold billions of dollars of waste every year.
His salary is a million and a half dollars a year. Poor slob. How does he ever survive.
Then we collectively cuss the government for untold billions of dollars of waste every year.
I liked Nevermind. I think I was a teen ager or very early 20's when I heard teen spirit.
I suppose their music just wasn't heavy enough for me to say they were the best grunge band. Neither lyrically nor musically. But that was just my personal taste.
I don't listen to anything like that anymore. If it doesn't come on K-LOVE or isn't reminding me of what Christ has done for me and all mankind, it just seems like mostly a curse to me. Although I can sometimes see how Christ still was able to penetrate all the plans of the enemy, even through the curse I was listening to and chanting along to, when I sometimes hear that music.
It kind of makes me sad that I was so blind and stupid. Does listening to old music make anyone else feel that way? Ashamed at the old rebellion?
I suppose their music just wasn't heavy enough for me to say they were the best grunge band. Neither lyrically nor musically. But that was just my personal taste.
I don't listen to anything like that anymore. If it doesn't come on K-LOVE or isn't reminding me of what Christ has done for me and all mankind, it just seems like mostly a curse to me. Although I can sometimes see how Christ still was able to penetrate all the plans of the enemy, even through the curse I was listening to and chanting along to, when I sometimes hear that music.
It kind of makes me sad that I was so blind and stupid. Does listening to old music make anyone else feel that way? Ashamed at the old rebellion?
P
I tend to get a little suspicious when no matter what you say, quote, show, use videos of their own words, etc., no matta what, it's wrong.
I'm tending to believe if I find hard evidence from the Bible, that would be wrong, too.
Maybe I got it wrong..... maybe there's a couple of people on here that post, & when they do, they're always right, no matta what.
I'm tending to believe if I find hard evidence from the Bible, that would be wrong, too.
Maybe I got it wrong..... maybe there's a couple of people on here that post, & when they do, they're always right, no matta what.
J
I tend to get a little suspicious when no matter what you say, quote, show, use videos of their own words, etc., no matta what, it's wrong.
I'm tending to believe if I find hard evidence from the Bible, that would be wrong, too.
Maybe I got it wrong..... maybe there's a couple of people on here that post, & when they do, they're always right, no matta what.
I'm tending to believe if I find hard evidence from the Bible, that would be wrong, too.
Maybe I got it wrong..... maybe there's a couple of people on here that post, & when they do, they're always right, no matta what.
No man can serve [SUP][b][/SUP]two masters: for either he shall hate the one, and love the other, or else he shall lean to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and [SUP][c][/SUP]riches.
Jesus said it plain enough for me
P
I just stumbled across that site yesterday! It's pretty neat--lots of free info and resources. They really go into detail on their doctrinal statement--even including a "We Reject..." section after their "We Believe..." section. Doctrinal Statement
So many Christian "groups" have some slight (sometimes significant) differences/disagreements and they ALL claim to be the ONE or the TRUE church. I wonder, since it's MAN who is writing these 'doctrinal statements', maybe--just maybe MAN is sometimes wrong. Why do we so often lean on our own understanding, rather than just simply stating: I don't know for certain (as only God does), but this is what I believe...
I'm just thinking "out loud" here.. Hope I didn't derail anyone's conversation.
Love & Peace,
PW
So many Christian "groups" have some slight (sometimes significant) differences/disagreements and they ALL claim to be the ONE or the TRUE church. I wonder, since it's MAN who is writing these 'doctrinal statements', maybe--just maybe MAN is sometimes wrong. Why do we so often lean on our own understanding, rather than just simply stating: I don't know for certain (as only God does), but this is what I believe...
I'm just thinking "out loud" here.. Hope I didn't derail anyone's conversation.
Love & Peace,
PW