Key OT Teachings

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Cruising right along after Moses led the Exodus, he received the Ten Commandments from God, which for our purposes we will consider as one key teaching, but y'all may want to comment on some of them individually.

EX 20:1-17. God requires moral perfection (cf. DT 5:6-21). Of course each of the Ten Commandments is important, and Jesus affirmed many of them in the “Sermon on the Mount (MT 5:21-48). The key point is that all commandments teach us to cooperate with the Lawgiver, whose moral will was not ended by the Gospel or rescinded by the death of Messiah.

There are additional moral precepts, such as those found in EX 21, 22 & LV 18-20, but most of the other Mosaic commands are either part of the sacrificial system or instructions for treating various health problems.

Jesus taught that God’s standard is perfection (cf. LV 19:1), and he clarified that the Sabbath was made for the sake of humankind (MT 12:7f.), perhaps so they would have a day to rest and worship God. However, Paul indicated (in CL 2:16f., cf. 1CR 10:23&31) that we should serve God every day or continually, and both he and Jesus explained how the perfect “rest” is attained (Paul in 2THS 5:16-22 & PHP 3:7-9, cf. HB 4:9, and Jesus in MT 11:28).
Jesus affirmed all of the Ten Commandments, not "some" Mat 5:17-30 Rev 14:12 Rev 12:17 Rev 22:14 and a warning for those who break and teach others we can break the least of them. Jesus kept all of the commandments John 15:10 and if we abide in Him we will as well 1 John 2:6 John 15:4-5

The Sabbath was made for man because man was made first, in the image of God to be followers of God Gen 1:26 then the Sabbath was created Gen 2:1-3 to bless Isa 56:2 and sanctify man Eze 20:12 because we cannot sanctify ourselves Isa 66:17, we need God for everything. Paul never countermanded God Col 2:16 has more context that was left out as seen in v14 that isn't even about the Sabbath commandment, but about the annual sabbaths ordinances handwritten by Moses placed in the book that was outside the ark which held God's moral laws written personally by God of the universe Exo 31:18 hence why Paul and the apostles faithfully taught and kept on God's commandments including the Sabbath decades after the cross because that's what a Christian does, they are followers of Christ.

We should worship God daily, but that doesn't delete our moral obligation to keep God's commandments including the one everyone forgot that God said to Remember.
 
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Jesus affirmed all of the Ten Commandments, not "some" Mat 5:17-30 Rev 14:12 Rev 12:17 Rev 22:14 and a warning for those who break and teach others we can break the least of them. Jesus kept all of the commandments John 15:10 and if we abide in Him we will as well 1 John 2:6 John 15:4-5

The Sabbath was made for man because man was made first, in the image of God to be followers of God Gen 1:26 then the Sabbath was created Gen 2:1-3 to bless Isa 56:2 and sanctify man Eze 20:12 because we cannot sanctify ourselves Isa 66:17, we need God for everything. Paul never countermanded God Col 2:16 has more context that was left out as seen in v14 that isn't even about the Sabbath commandment, but about the annual sabbaths ordinances handwritten by Moses placed in the book that was outside the ark which held God's moral laws written personally by God of the universe Exo 31:18 hence why Paul and the apostles faithfully taught and kept on God's commandments including the Sabbath decades after the cross because that's what a Christian does, they are followers of Christ.

We should worship God daily, but that doesn't delete our moral obligation to keep God's commandments including the one everyone forgot that God said to Remember.
No, the NT does not affirm the Sabbath Law as it did the moral commands in the Ten Commandments, so one needs to discern the correct doctrine for Christians by considering the following Scriptures:

1. God rested from His work and rested on the seventh day and made it holy per GN 2:2-3.

2. Moses promulgated the Sabbath law as the 4th of the Ten Commandments in EX 20:8-11, cf. LV 19:3&30, DT 5:12-15.

3. Solomon builds a temple for burnt offerings on the Sabbath in 2CHR 2:4.

4. Isaiah said those are blessed who keep the Sabbath in IS 56:2-6.

5. Jeremiah commands keeping the Sabbath holy in JR 17:21-27.

6. Ezekiel referred to the Sabbaths in 20:12

7. Jesus declared he is Lord of the Sabbath and it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath in MT 12:1-12.

8. Jesus healed a crippled woman on the Sabbath in LK 13:10-16.

If Jesus thought keeping the Sabbath was an important law, he would have specifically affirmed it on these two occasions, but he did not specifically nullify it either, which jibes/harmonizes perfectly with Paul.

9. Paul taught that a person may rest on the Sabbath or not in CL 2:16, GL 4:9-11 & RM 14:5.

10. HB encourages Christians to enter God’s Sabbath rest by persevering faith in 3:7-4:11.

The primary sin per the NT is transgression of GRFS (GL 3:1-14), and secondary sins are transgression of Christ’s law (JN 13:34), which summarizes the OT moral laws (MT 22:37-40) affirmed by the NT (MT 5:17-48) and calls them the fruit of the Spirit (GL 5:22-23), which does NOT include all 613 laws of Moses, such as those pertaining to mildew and infectious disease in LV 14.

Jesus fulfilled/accomplished the 613 Mosaic laws (MT 5:17-19) and taught that righteousness must surpass/supersede that of the Pharisees (MT 5:20) including Paul (ACTS 22:3-5), to whom Jesus appeared, saying “Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a witness of what you have seen of me and what I will show you… I am sending you to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.”

Paul did just that when he preached to the folks (both Jews and Gentiles per ACTS 14:1-5) in Galatia (ACTS 13:49), encouraging them to remain true to the faith (ACTS 14:22), which he reiterated in his epistle, beginning “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel, which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ… But if anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” (GL 1:3-9)

Paul stated the true gospel thusly, “I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ [the HS] lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved he and gave himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness [holiness] could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Paul may also have written Hebrews, which warns against not entering God’s Sabbath rest by not holding firmly until the end the confidence/faith in Christ (HB 3:14, 4:2). HB 7:11-10:1 begins as follows: “If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood, why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also… The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless, for the law made nothing perfect, and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. Such a high priest truly meets our need… the Son, who has been made perfect forever, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven… The ministry Jesus has received is superior to the old one [of Moses], since the NC is established on better promises… God said, ‘The days are coming when I will make a new covenant’ [JR 31:31-34]. It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts… By calling this covenant ‘new’, he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.”

Need GW say more? (Probably, for SB :^)
 
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No, the NT does not affirm the Sabbath Law as it did the moral commands in the Ten Commandments, so one needs to discern the correct doctrine for Christians by considering the following Scriptures:

1. God rested from His work and rested on the seventh day and made it holy per GN 2:2-3.

2. Moses promulgated the Sabbath law as the 4th of the Ten Commandments in EX 20:8-11, cf. LV 19:3&30, DT 5:12-15.

3. Solomon builds a temple for burnt offerings on the Sabbath in 2CHR 2:4.

4. Isaiah said those are blessed who keep the Sabbath in IS 56:2-6.

5. Jeremiah commands keeping the Sabbath holy in JR 17:21-27.

6. Ezekiel referred to the Sabbaths in 20:12

7. Jesus declared he is Lord of the Sabbath and it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath in MT 12:1-12.

8. Jesus healed a crippled woman on the Sabbath in LK 13:10-16.

If Jesus thought keeping the Sabbath was an important law, he would have specifically affirmed it on these two occasions, but he did not specifically nullify it either, which jibes/harmonizes perfectly with Paul.

9. Paul taught that a person may rest on the Sabbath or not in CL 2:16, GL 4:9-11 & RM 14:5.

10. HB encourages Christians to enter God’s Sabbath rest by persevering faith in 3:7-4:11.

The primary sin per the NT is transgression of GRFS (GL 3:1-14), and secondary sins are transgression of Christ’s law (JN 13:34), which summarizes the OT moral laws (MT 22:37-40) affirmed by the NT (MT 5:17-48) and calls them the fruit of the Spirit (GL 5:22-23), which does NOT include all 613 laws of Moses, such as those pertaining to mildew and infectious disease in LV 14.

Jesus fulfilled/accomplished the 613 Mosaic laws (MT 5:17-19) and taught that righteousness must surpass/supersede that of the Pharisees (MT 5:20) including Paul (ACTS 22:3-5), to whom Jesus appeared, saying “Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a witness of what you have seen of me and what I will show you… I am sending you to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.”

Paul did just that when he preached to the folks (both Jews and Gentiles per ACTS 14:1-5) in Galatia (ACTS 13:49), encouraging them to remain true to the faith (ACTS 14:22), which he reiterated in his epistle, beginning “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel, which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ… But if anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” (GL 1:3-9)

Paul stated the true gospel thusly, “I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ [the HS] lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved he and gave himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness [holiness] could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Paul may also have written Hebrews, which warns against not entering God’s Sabbath rest by not holding firmly until the end the confidence/faith in Christ (HB 3:14, 4:2). HB 7:11-10:1 begins as follows: “If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood, why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also… The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless, for the law made nothing perfect, and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. Such a high priest truly meets our need… the Son, who has been made perfect forever, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven… The ministry Jesus has received is superior to the old one [of Moses], since the NC is established on better promises… God said, ‘The days are coming when I will make a new covenant’ [JR 31:31-34]. It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts… By calling this covenant ‘new’, he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.”

Need GW say more? (Probably, for SB :^)
Oh my so many things out of context, where do I even begin.

First Jesus kept all of the commandments including the Sabbath Luke 4:16 and if we abide in Him, we will also keep His commandments and follow in His footsteps 1 John 2:6 why Jesus taught not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments first quoting right from the Ten Commandments Mat 5:17-30 so we should be mindful of what we are teaching because it came with a pretty serious warning that sadly many gloss over, but Jesus can't lie.

There is no scripture that says the Sabbath commandment was abrogated written by God, spoken by God, His will that we should delight to do Psa 40:8 why God wrote His law in our hearts and minds Heb 8:10 instead of deleting His will for mankind that they do not sin 1 John 1:1 which is breaking His law 1 John 3:4 His version James 2:10-12 Rom 7:7 not want man changed contrary to what Jesus taught not a jot or tittle will pass. Who is above God to change His times and laws Dan 7:25 not someone I would want to follow, but we are given free will.

I have already addressed Col 2:14-17 too many times to count. The weekly Sabbath could never be a shadow of anything because it points back to Creation God said: Remember the Sabbath day right in the Sabbath commandment, because it started at Creation when there were no shadows only the substance which is God. God made everything according to His perfect plan which included the weekly Sabbath Gen 2:1-3 Exo 20:11- Jesus said the Sabbath was made for mankind Mark 2:27 so your teachings is in contradiction to what Jesus taught and how Jesus lived who faithfully kept every Sabbath and told us if we love Him to keep His commandments and follow His example.

Hebrews 4 is a continuation of Hebrews 3 which I would suggest your prayerfully read....

Because those who are disobedient to God do not enter into His rest

Heb 3:12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but [b]exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Sin is breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 God's version what God spoke and what God wrote and claimed in His own Words as His Exo 20:6, there is no greater Authority than God.

Hebrews 4 confirms the Sabbath commandment and is a warning to everyone to not be disobedient to God following the same path of disobedience as the Israelites who did not enter into their rest into Canaan, just like we won't through disobedience to God and His commandments

Heb 4:4 For He (God) has spoken in a certain place (Mt Sinai Exo 20:1) of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;

To enter into Christ rest we must follow Christ because we are made in His image and rest on the seventh day just as God did.

Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest(Christ rest) has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His. on the seventh day Heb 4:4 Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3

How many times does God have to repeat Himself for us to believe?

Why the Sabbath rest remains for God's people Heb 4:9

The rest in this verse literally translates into Sabbath-keeping because God's people keep God's commandments- His version, not mans.

sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

I would highly recommend watching this video on Hebrews 4 and on Hebrews 7 and Hebrews 8.

We are only sanctified by the Truth in God's word John 17:17 all of God's commandments of Truth- God makes no mistakes He spoke He wrote it is His will for mankind, He wrote it on stone, then placed it in our hearts, if we rebel what God placed in our hearts He has no where to go. Why He calls on us Today- to not harden our hearts in rebellion Heb 3:7-8

 
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Oh my so many things out of context, where do I even begin.

First Jesus kept all of the commandments including the Sabbath Luke 4:16 and if we abide in Him, we will also keep His commandments and follow in His footsteps 1 John 2:6 why Jesus taught not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments first quoting right from the Ten Commandments Mat 5:17-30 so we should be mindful of what we are teaching because it came with a pretty serious warning that sadly many gloss over, but Jesus can't lie.

There is no scripture that says the Sabbath commandment was abrogated written by God, spoken by God, His will that we should delight to do Psa 40:8 why God wrote His law in our hearts and minds Heb 8:10 instead of deleting His will for mankind that they do not sin 1 John 1:1 which is breaking His law 1 John 3:4 His version James 2:10-12 Rom 7:7 not want man changed contrary to what Jesus taught not a jot or tittle will pass. Who is above God to change His times and laws Dan 7:25 not someone I would want to follow, but we are given free will.

I have already addressed Col 2:14-17 too many times to count. The weekly Sabbath could never be a shadow of anything because it points back to Creation God said: Remember the Sabbath day right in the Sabbath commandment, because it started at Creation when there were no shadows only the substance which is God. God made everything according to His perfect plan which included the weekly Sabbath Gen 2:1-3 Exo 20:11- Jesus said the Sabbath was made for mankind Mark 2:27 so your teachings is in contradiction to what Jesus taught and how Jesus lived who faithfully kept every Sabbath and told us if we love Him to keep His commandments and follow His example.

Hebrews 4 is a continuation of Hebrews 3 which I would suggest your prayerfully read....

Because those who are disobedient to God do not enter into His rest

Heb 3:12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but [b]exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Sin is breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 God's version what God spoke and what God wrote and claimed in His own Words as His Exo 20:6, there is no greater Authority than God.

Hebrews 4 confirms the Sabbath commandment and is a warning to everyone to not be disobedient to God following the same path of disobedience as the Israelites who did not enter into their rest into Canaan, just like we won't through disobedience to God and His commandments

Heb 4:4 For He (God) has spoken in a certain place (Mt Sinai Exo 20:1) of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;

To enter into Christ rest we must follow Christ because we are made in His image and rest on the seventh day just as God did.

Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest(Christ rest) has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His. on the seventh day Heb 4:4 Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3

How many times does God have to repeat Himself for us to believe?

Why the Sabbath rest remains for God's people Heb 4:9

The rest in this verse literally translates into Sabbath-keeping because God's people keep God's commandments- His version, not mans.

sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

I would highly recommend watching this video on Hebrews 4 and on Hebrews 7 and Hebrews 8.

We are only sanctified by the Truth in God's word John 17:17 all of God's commandments of Truth- God makes no mistakes He spoke He wrote it is His will for mankind, He wrote it on stone, then placed it in our hearts, if we rebel what God placed in our hearts He has no where to go. Why He calls on us Today- to not harden our hearts in rebellion Heb 3:7-8

Lastly there is no dichotomy in Christ law and God's law. If there was one would automatically disqualify themselves because this is the fruit of a saved person:
Rev 14: 12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. No coincidence v15 is quoting directly from the Ten Commandments breaking one we break them all James 2:10-12 and those who says they know Him but keep not His commandments there is no truth in them 1 John 2:4

Why John had a revelation from Jesus Christ about His heavenly Temple which the earthy one was patterned after and inside God's heavenly Temple is the ark of the covenant that holds the Ten Commandments Rev 11:19 what all man will be Judged by Ecc 12:13-14 Rev 22:14-15 Mat 5:19-30 James 2:10-12 regardless if we embrace them or not, but I wouldn't want to remove anything that is under Christ's mercy seat that He covers when we repent, which means a change in our heart and direction. That why God never left it up to man to write His holy and eternal law- He wrote, He spoke, there is no greater Authority than God.
 
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Oh my so many things out of context, where do I even begin.

First Jesus kept all of the commandments including the Sabbath Luke 4:16 and if we abide in Him, we will also keep His commandments and follow in His footsteps 1 John 2:6 why Jesus taught not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments first quoting right from the Ten Commandments Mat 5:17-30 so we should be mindful of what we are teaching because it came with a pretty serious warning that sadly many gloss over, but Jesus can't lie.

There is no scripture that says the Sabbath commandment was abrogated written by God, spoken by God, His will that we should delight to do Psa 40:8 why God wrote His law in our hearts and minds Heb 8:10 instead of deleting His will for mankind that they do not sin 1 John 1:1 which is breaking His law 1 John 3:4 His version James 2:10-12 Rom 7:7 not want man changed contrary to what Jesus taught not a jot or tittle will pass. Who is above God to change His times and laws Dan 7:25 not someone I would want to follow, but we are given free will.

I have already addressed Col 2:14-17 too many times to count. The weekly Sabbath could never be a shadow of anything because it points back to Creation God said: Remember the Sabbath day right in the Sabbath commandment, because it started at Creation when there were no shadows only the substance which is God. God made everything according to His perfect plan which included the weekly Sabbath Gen 2:1-3 Exo 20:11- Jesus said the Sabbath was made for mankind Mark 2:27 so your teachings is in contradiction to what Jesus taught and how Jesus lived who faithfully kept every Sabbath and told us if we love Him to keep His commandments and follow His example.

Hebrews 4 is a continuation of Hebrews 3 which I would suggest your prayerfully read....

Because those who are disobedient to God do not enter into His rest

Heb 3:12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but [b]exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Sin is breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 God's version what God spoke and what God wrote and claimed in His own Words as His Exo 20:6, there is no greater Authority than God.

Hebrews 4 confirms the Sabbath commandment and is a warning to everyone to not be disobedient to God following the same path of disobedience as the Israelites who did not enter into their rest into Canaan, just like we won't through disobedience to God and His commandments

Heb 4:4 For He (God) has spoken in a certain place (Mt Sinai Exo 20:1) of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;

To enter into Christ rest we must follow Christ because we are made in His image and rest on the seventh day just as God did.

Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest(Christ rest) has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His. on the seventh day Heb 4:4 Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3

How many times does God have to repeat Himself for us to believe?

Why the Sabbath rest remains for God's people Heb 4:9

The rest in this verse literally translates into Sabbath-keeping because God's people keep God's commandments- His version, not mans.

sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

I would highly recommend watching this video on Hebrews 4 and on Hebrews 7 and Hebrews 8.

We are only sanctified by the Truth in God's word John 17:17 all of God's commandments of Truth- God makes no mistakes He spoke He wrote it is His will for mankind, He wrote it on stone, then placed it in our hearts, if we rebel what God placed in our hearts He has no where to go. Why He calls on us Today- to not harden our hearts in rebellion Heb 3:7-8

Re "Oh my so many things out of context, where do I even begin?... I have already addressed Col 2:14-17 too many times to count.": We can begin by realizing that I developed what I posted as a result of discussing this issue with you (thanks :^), so I already knew your opinions and now you know mine.

Happy trails!
 
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Re "Oh my so many things out of context, where do I even begin?... I have already addressed Col 2:14-17 too many times to count.": We can begin by realizing that I developed what I posted as a result of discussing this issue with you (thanks :^), so I already knew your opinions and now you know mine.

Happy trails!
I guess we will see how it all works out.

Thanks for engaging and I do wish you well. :)
 
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JSH 24:15. We must choose whom we will serve. As a song by Bob Dylan phrased it: “You may serve the devil or you may serve the Lord, but you gotta serve somebody.” This teaching correlates with DT 30:19 and contradicts Calvinism's view that God determines whom one may serve, although He does limit the essential spiritual choices to either Him/Christ = Lord or anti-Him/Christ = the devil/Satan. We "gotta" serve the One or the other one, and we gotta do it God's Way, NOT our way or as a song says, "My Way".
JDG 2:10. It is important to teach the next generation about God by word and deed. Indeed, all knowledge must be transmitted from one generation to the next, which is why progress is tenuous and may be a mirage.

RUTH 1:16. “Where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay. Your people will be my people and your God my God.” This verse illustrates the meaning of friendship. Such loyalty is applicable to marital vows.
 
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1SM 15:22. To obey the Lord is better than sacrifice. Jesus clarified that this verse speaks of obeying the Lord’s law of love as better than observance of regulations that have nothing to do with moral character and right relationships. (See MT 9:13, where He quoted HOS 6:6, which echoes IS 1:11-17.)

1SM 15:10&34. The Lord was grieved that he had made Saul king of Israel. Jesus grieved over the obstinance of Jerusalem (in MT 23:37), and Paul also indicated (in EPH 4:30) that God is grieved by the sins of humanity. Perhaps this should not be surprising, since we who are created in the image of God experience both grief and joy.

2SM 7:12-16. The offspring of David will establish an eternal kingdom. The NT teaches that this refers to Jesus (in ACTS 2:30, 4:25, cf. 1:6, JN 18:36 & 1CR 15:24), and that it is equivalent to the church (MT 16:18-19).

2SM 22:2-4. The Lord God will save us from all of our enemies including death, which was cited as an enemy by Paul in 1CR 15:26.
 

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The scientific “big bang” theory regarding the origin of the universe is quite compatible with the biblical story, theorizing that just before the beginning all matter in the universe was compressed to a “singularity”.
no that would be after the beginning.
'big bang' is not and never has been an origin theory; it is not concerned with creation itself but what the cosmos appears to have looked like in the earliest moments after creation.
 
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no that would be after the beginning.
'big bang' is not and never has been an origin theory; it is not concerned with creation itself but what the cosmos appears to have looked like in the earliest moments after creation.
Okay, the amended version: The scientific “big bang” theory regarding the origin of the universe/cosmos is quite compatible with the biblical story, theorizing that just before things banged bigly all matter was compressed to a “singularity” of light/energy.
 

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The scientific “big bang” theory regarding the origin of the universe/cosmos
um, my point was that big bang has nothing to do with creation/origin. something had to exist before something went boom; He created the heavens before He stretched them out like a tent.

minor semantics
 
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um, my point was that big bang has nothing to do with creation/origin. something had to exist before something went boom; He created the heavens before He stretched them out like a tent.

minor semantics
Okay, so the amended statement should be satisfactory, because it views the BB as following the creation of the "something" or singularity. I have corrected it on my website. Thanks for the catch!