King James authorized bible vs the rest of other bibles

[Jason0047]

The king James is the most accurate is it a home run , no it is not. Then we must learn the Hebrew and the Greek until then we do not know the word of God. Because the word of God is hidden in these languages. The English translations have nothing. they are trash and refuge. In order to be a true christian we must know Hebrew and Aramaic and Greek. If you do not know these languages then you are damned to hell fire, with no hope and your knowledge is key.

Lie that that is, no matter is you speak Swahili or Spanish, or Arabic. The cross is the same and Hallelujah is the same in any language. Praise God.

Yeah, see. This is what I am talking about. The poor person, the simple farmer, and the fisherman are all doomed because they have not joined the elite religious group who teach this false concept at Bible seminaries. Yet what was Jesus opinion of the scribes? What was his opinion of the poor or the simple man?

 

[Kerry]

That's why the King James was written and translated to every known Language. It was a move of the Holt Spirit and many men died for the King James as the Catholic Churches killed those who translated or made copies. How many were killed the NIV?

 

[Jason0047]

That's why the King James was written and translated to every known Language. It was a move of the Holt Spirit and many men died for the King James as the Catholic Churches killed those who translated or made copies. How many were killed the NIV?

Reminds me of this video:

[video=youtube;j3lwsOPEpMw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3lwsOPEpMw[/video]

 

[Kerry]

Jason

it is the only translation that people died for, which means that it is important and the true word of God, Doe's that mean it's perfect of course not, is any man perfect. But the KJV was overseen by the Holy Spirit and it's fruit is evidence.

 

[Jason0047]

Jason

it is the only translation that people died for, which means that it is important and the true word of God, Doe's that mean it's perfect of course not, is any man perfect. But the KJV was overseen by the Holy Spirit and it's fruit is evidence.

Let's understand something here. If one word was in suspect of not being true in God's Word, then the entire package is in question. For the moment the seed of doubt creeps in, it doesn't stop. Yea, hath God said...? (Genesis 3:1 KJV). I would be willing to die for the King James in being the perfect Word of God. In other words, it is having faith in those passsages that talk about how God's Word is perfect and how it would be preserved forever for all generations. For heaven and earth shall pass away, but his words shall not pass away. Meaning, if God's Word only perfectly existed in the Hebrew and Greek they would be powerless words that a body of believers could come to an agreement upon. Not all Greek or Hebrew scholars agree with each other. Yes, people do not agree on their interpretation of Scripture in the English, but there is less room for wiggle room because people know English and that there is a standard in how it operates. It is the world language for our day. Just as Greek was the world language for it's day.

 

[Jason0047]

Does anyone's spirit jump for joy (whereby you fill chills in a good way) when you watch the video above?

I imagine many who have died for the King James in the past, believed it was the perfect Word of God. For why would you die for something that was flawed, or imperfect? That doesn't make sense. You believe all of God's Word or you don't believe it. It's an all or nothing deal.

 

[Jason0047]

For example: When I found out that there was an error in the KJV, it almost crushed my faith whereby I thought God's Word might have failed. But years of study have shown me otherwise, though. There is no error in God's preserved Word for our day. For faith comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God (Romans 10:17). So when you attack my Bible as not being perfect, you are attacking my faith (Which is a different faith than the ones preached in Modern Translations); And I would be willing to die for my KJV. Are you willing to die for some unread Hebrew and Greek translation of the Scriptures that you could not understand without a Lexicon? I know what words I am dying for. There is no dispute about what the words say. I know English. There is not a kaleidoscope of definitions for me to choose from with a Lexicon or another Modern Translation. I have one nailed down Word of God and I know exactly what I would be dying for. I would be dying for Jesus and His teachings as described in His preserved Word for our day (i.e. the KJV).

 

[Jason0047]

In other words, an article pointed out a supposed contradiction to me in the KJV back when I first got saved. Can you imagine if I was led away from not believing God's Word anymore if I believed that article?

 

[Matt1626]

I prefer the douay rhiems the 1st modern English bible

 

[Jason0047]

I prefer the douay rhiems the 1st modern English bible

The Modern Translations support Catholicism. For the Catholics like the 1610 Douay-Rheims Bible and the NIV Bible for good reasons.

[video=youtube;OQFtvmVHBb4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQFtvmVHBb4[/video]

In fact, the Catholics highly endorse the Douay Rheims Bible because it is supports the doctrines of the Catholic church. Certain Catholics who are aware of this Bible believe in it by faith, just as they trust in their church by faith.

For it is no secret that the Douay Rheims is favored by Catholics:

The REAL Rheims New Testament
Catholic Bible: Douay-Rheims Bible Online, Verses Search.

However, any believer with any spiritual sense knows that Catholicism is highly un-Biblical, though. For it is obvious they are false because they break the commandment on worshiping idols or bowing down to statues.

 

[Agricola]

For example: When I found out that there was an error in the KJV, it almost crushed my faith whereby I thought God's Word might have failed. But years of study have shown me otherwise, though. There is no error in God's preserved Word for our day. For faith comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God (Romans 10:17). So when you attack my Bible as not being perfect, you are attacking my faith (Which is a different faith than the ones preached in Modern Translations); And I would be willing to die for my KJV. Are you willing to die for some unread Hebrew and Greek translation of the Scriptures that you could not understand without a Lexicon? I know what words I am dying for. There is no dispute about what the words say. I know English. There is not a kaleidoscope of definitions for me to choose from with a Lexicon or another Modern Translation. I have one nailed down Word of God and I know exactly what I would be dying for. I would be dying for Jesus and His teachings as described in His preserved Word for our day (i.e. the KJV).

If you needed any more evidence that Jason is part of a cult then here it is exposed, give people enough time and enough rope they hang themselves.

Willing to die for the King James Version and challenging us are we ready to die over Greek translations SERIOUSLY?

So when you attack my Bible as not being perfect, you are attacking my faith (Which is a different faith than the ones preached in Modern Translations);

Please also note yet again how this cult continues with its mantra that only genuine mature Christians accept the King James Bible as Gods Perfect preserved version, that Christians who read other versions are not of the same faith and can not possibly be mature enough or even genuine Christians to start with, a constant message and response given time and time again, which we also read here. This is another indication marker of what defines a cult.

There is no dispute about what the words say. I know English. There is not a kaleidoscope of definitions for me to choose from with a Lexicon or another Modern Translation.

Anyone who has been following the rantings of the King James Only Cult, will see the contridictions made in the statement above. NUmerous times Jason has mentioned how language evolves, but I asked numerous times if that applied to the King James Bible as well, which remained unanswered. it is also quite ironic that the original Greek and Hebrew words often have numerous meanings depending on context and use with other words, some words do not even have an English equivalent, something which is acknowledged with other translations, language evolves, we are not all stuck in the 17th century still. We have done that a death as well.

Anyway, if you were swaying in your opinions, then I hope this post by Jason will show you the true colours of this cult, avoid these people at all cost, they just bring about bondage and misery.


THe King James Bible is an excellent Bible, but at the end of the day its just another translation and nothing more,

 

[Agricola]

Jason

it is the only translation that people died for, which means that it is important and the true word of God, Doe's that mean it's perfect of course not, is any man perfect. But the KJV was overseen by the Holy Spirit and it's fruit is evidence.

No its not, people were being killed and dying hundreds of years prior to 1611 for translating the Bible. You have heard of Tyndale havn't you?

 

[Dan_473]

And what do the following verses say?

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.*For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake*as they were*moved by the Holy Ghost.

In other words, how can you have private interpretation of Scripture if there is no sure Word of prophecy written down for us to know?

or maybe you're asking how to have the proper interpretation? the things of the spirit are spiritually discerned... 1cor2... now, the prophecy came when holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost, so, to get the interpretation, be led by the spirit as you read...

 

[newbirth]

Pffff...those KJV-OccultistsDon't let them get to you. Let them worship their version while the rest of the world reads and compares all the other versions to each other.

why condemn ...faith comes by hearing....the first words I heard about Christ came from the KJV....does this mean those who had only the KJV available to them and believed the Lord are not saved?

 

[newbirth]

Let's understand something here. If one word was in suspect of not being true in God's Word, then the entire package is in question. For the moment the seed of doubt creeps in, it doesn't stop. Yea, hath God said...? (Genesis 3:1 KJV). I would be willing to die for the King James in being the perfect Word of God. In other words, it is having faith in those passsages that talk about how God's Word is perfect and how it would be preserved forever for all generations. For heaven and earth shall pass away, but his words shall not pass away. Meaning, if God's Word only perfectly existed in the Hebrew and Greek they would be powerless words that a body of believers could come to an agreement upon. Not all Greek or Hebrew scholars agree with each other. Yes, people do not agree on their interpretation of Scripture in the English, but there is less room for wiggle room because people know English and that there is a standard in how it operates. It is the world language for our day. Just as Greek was the world language for it's day.

Jesus had twelve and lost one...are you questioning him? Men rely more on the written word than the living word God has written on their hearts...from faith to faith ...from the written word to the living word....that is why he gave us a clear conscience from sin He prepared us for the living word to dwell in us....

 

[Dan_473]

Scripture disagrees with you. Proverbs 30:5 says every word of God is pure and then in verse 6 (Proverbs 30:6) we are told not to add to God's Word. This is obviously in context to the written Word on Earth because how can you add to God's Word in Heaven or how can you add to God's Word that is spoken by someone and then forgotten or fudged by imperfect human minds decades later?

well, that there exists a commandment not to add to God's word here on earth says to me that it's possible...so, another good reason not to say God's word is settled here on earth... humans can add to it...

 

[Nick01]

Still waiting for a response to my earlier post.

These (tired) arguments about people dying for the KJV (Tyndale et al didn't die for the KJV, they died before it) or of proponents of modern translations 'requiring' people to know Greek or Hebrew (we believe no such thing, as I have stated before; conversely, the KJV has a higher reading level than modern translations, and was deliberately kept loftier and more archaic even then the standard level at 1611) are not going anywhere.

 

[Jason0047]

It's gonna be a while. The Lord is directing me to write a small compilation of posts that all tie in together.

 

[Agricola]

why condemn ...faith comes by hearing....the first words I heard about Christ came from the KJV....does this mean those who had only the KJV available to them and believed the Lord are not saved?

No you miss the point, we have nothign against the KIng James, its a great translation, but thats all it is, we are against the King James Only cult.

 

[Agricola]

It's gonna be a while. The Lord is directing me to write a small compilation of posts that all tie in together.

Playing the holier than thou trump card again I see.

Amazing how many people claim that God is on their side, I have even heard to people arguing over timing of rapture that God has told them something that they will use to prove thier version of theology.