Lazarus

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Cameron143

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Had to stop there.

I do not consider that a resurrection.

That would mean Lazarus would have a 'second resurrection' in the future, which would contradict this verse...

Revelation 20:5
"But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."


Perhaps the meaning is that people can die more than one time.

I wonder if Lazarus went to Abraham's Bosom during the time he was dead.
By the way, welcome to the site and thanks for sharing.
 

Magenta

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Yeah. It seems sometimes the more questions you ask the more that come to mind.
Hebrews also tells us that it is appointed unto man once to die...what to make of this?
There are exceptions to the rule :)
 

Pilgrimshope

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Hey you gave it a shot and thanks for sharing. And I think you may have shortened it by a paragraph or 2. All I know is my brain didn't hurt as much as usual.
I appreciate your effort also and grace to allow my shortcomings regarding typing and grammar

a we’re all a little different but with grace between us we have so much more in common and agreement because we all truly believe in Jesus the lord even if we don’t know and understand a lot of the Bible or if we think we understand some of it

The common belief in our savior and redeemer is our unbreakable bond

God bless you brother , you are appreciated
 

Magenta

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That is called a contradiction in the Bible. I do not believe there are any.
I do not believe there are contradictions either.

There are none worthy/righteous. Jesus is worthy/righteous. Is that a contradiction? Or an exception?
 
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Yeah. It seems sometimes the more questions you ask the more that come to mind.
Hebrews also tells us that it is appointed unto man once to die...what to make of this?
It means every death will be judged. If it meant that everyone has to die, and it is only one time, it would contradict many verses in the Bible.

Some examples...

Second Death
Enoch and Elijah
Boy who sneezed seven times
Valley of dry bones
The dead man who touched Elijah's bones
etc.
 

JohnDB

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And I believe neither of the OP's choices are true.
4th dimensional travel is impossible for some people to understand.
 

Saul-to-Paul

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When Lazarus was resurrected, did (1) he hear Jesus' voice, come to life, and come forth
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(2) was made alive, hear Jesus' voice, and come forth?

Please give only a short explanation and scripture reference if you respond with more than just a number. Thanks.
Mans spiritual condition is the same as Lazarus physical condition. As Lazarus could not raise himself from the dead, spiritually dead men can't raise themselves from the dead. All must wait upon God to be resurrected.

Ephesians 2:1
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
 

Magenta

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Mans spiritual condition is the same as Lazarus physical condition. As Lazarus could not raise himself from
the dead, spiritually dead men can't raise themselves from the dead. All must wait upon God to be resurrected.

Ephesians 2:1
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Colossians 2:13-14
:)
 

Cameron143

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Mans spiritual condition is the same as Lazarus physical condition. As Lazarus could not raise himself from the dead, spiritually dead men can't raise themselves from the dead. All must wait upon God to be resurrected.

Ephesians 2:1
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Thanks for sharing.
 
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It is an exception. Shameful you cannot acknowledge that Jesus is righteous and worthy.
Ouch. What is with the nasty comment and false accusation? That is a disgusting thing to say to someone. Are you capable of having a debate without hurling insults?

As I said it is neither. Your question has two false choices in it and is therefore, illogical.

Your argument is that "Jesus is an exception to the Rule that none are worthy".

What 'rule' are we talking about here?

Let us review your quote...

There are none worthy/righteous. Jesus is worthy/righteous. Is that a contradiction? Or an exception?
Now, let us review the actual verse in CONTEXT...

Romans 3:9-10
"What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one"


The verse you are referencing has to do with those that are already sinners. Thus, the 'rule' in your quote is about how it is proven that no SINNER is righteous. I obviously agree with that.

Jesus is not a sinner. Jesus never broke the Law. Your question is forcing me to choose that he is. Basically, what you are teaching is that Jesus broke the Law, but he is an "exception to the rule" and can get away with it while everyone else cannot. You are arguing *in favor of* contradiction.

Therefore, given the context of the verse you referenced in your 'multiple choice quiz', I disagree with your two false choices. The answer is neither.
 

jb

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When Lazarus was resurrected, did (1) he hear Jesus' voice, come to life, and come forth
or
(2) was made alive, hear Jesus' voice, and come forth?

Please give only a short explanation and scripture reference if you respond with more than just a number. Thanks.
It doesn't matter at all what the order was!

What does matter is that he was raised from the dead, and a wonderful miracle occurred!
 

Cameron143

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It doesn't matter at all what the order was!

What does matter is that he was raised from the dead, and a wonderful miracle occurred!
I appreciate you sharing your perspective.