lets nut this Sabbath thing out one point at a time. Point 2

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2Thewaters

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GenesisGen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified (gave it purifying power for man in) it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

He CREATED the sanctification protocol the one that would ever keep man sinfree
 
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ONe thing I know is that grace and faith have been twisted by satan

telling someone else they have no clue makes one an accuser of the brethren

how about we see what the BIBLE says?
 
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2Thewaters

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Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
 
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Paul knew and was told by Jesus the grace twisters would ome
that is every major denomination
 
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2Thewaters

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read your Bible
 
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2Thewaters

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What I recommend is you take two weeks and pray and read your Bible through
It will fix many misconceptions
 
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2Thewaters said:
ONe thing I know is that grace and faith have been twisted by satan

telling someone else they have no clue makes one an accuser of the brethren

how about we see what the BIBLE says?
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Grace and faith have only been twisted in the minds of those who have little to no faith. Without faith they need something to feel justified. Law is all that they have to fall back on.
 
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Most churches dont even know what sin is

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.


In him
there is no
ten commandment breaking
they keep the Sabbath that is why


Grace is the holy spirit wind in your heart united to make you a new creature in christ that will not sin
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
You just have no clue what grace is. Or faith for that matter. Grace and law are mutually exclusive. I know that's a stumbling stone to you and other law-cultists, but that's the way it was designed to exclude from the kingdom those who glory in laws (that they don't even keep), but don't have faith.
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I would see some scripture for that if you can produce it.
 
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2Thewaters

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The Sabbath was kept by Abraham

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.


Woa!

I mean really

Woa!
 
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2Thewaters

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The commandments were given to Adam and Eve on day one
the first time they were written down was when the people had lived in Egypt and messed their minds up and could not remember things perfectly because of all the meat and bad foods they ate that ruined their brains
 
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2Thewaters

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Noah kept the ten commandments, want the verse?

so did enoch!

hey
really
I mean REALY

GO READ YOUR BIBLES PLEASE!

What you have been taught in your church is selective wrong doctrines just like FOX news,
you believe fox news?
CNN?
then you deserve what you believe
same with the pastors who make money tons of it tax free on sunday

Dear pastor, is sunday the right day?
O yes my child, the offering plate is over there.

I mean go ask a used car salesman if the Bomb on the parking lot is the best car in the world!
Oh yes!
in fact I was just going to raise the price!
 
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2Thewaters said:
Most churches dont even know what sin is1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
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Paul is in lock step here...Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. He completely understood that the Law defines sin and that Grace AND Law are the proper mix...

1Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
 
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2Thewaters said:
The Sabbath was kept by Abraham

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.


Woa!

I mean really

Woa!
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If I may piggy-back on your post...

The word for Law in Gen 26:5 is...

H8451
תּרה תּורה
tôrâh tôrâh
to-raw', to-raw'
From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.
 
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Can't give scripture for a point that does not exist in the bible Paul clearly taught that the law is not against the promise. check it out in Galatians 3.

Gal 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid:...

The law might not be able to save which is clear but it is not against the promise or faith or Grace.
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
You just have no clue what grace is. Or faith for that matter. Grace and law are mutually exclusive. I know that's a stumbling stone to you and other law-cultists, but that's the way it was designed to exclude from the kingdom those who glory in laws (that they don't even keep), but don't have faith.
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And where exactly did God say that?
 
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gotime said:
According to the 10 commandments given to Moses which day of the week is the Sabbath and why?

Sorry kinda two questions here but on the same passage.

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


Remember Bible answers only, let the word of God speak for itself.
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Well, the Sabbath is a reminder of how it's going to be like when God's work is done, that's is why He had said to remember this day and which Jesus had came when the earth was four days old. There's not going to be no more laboring to live, and everyone will be holy on that day.

Revelation 21:4‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

Matthew 11:28“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.
 
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2Thewaters said:
The Sabbath was kept by Abraham

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.


Woa!

I mean really

Woa!
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Wasn't the sabbath given under the law of Moses.
 
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