look into it

[flying]

Jehovah's Witnesses do not understand the corporeity of Christ: the many becoming the One. They also deny that Jesus Christ (The Living God) has appeared in the flesh of men. Therefore, they are antichrist.

i used to study with many different Jw congreations and all other churches they are heavily brainwashed about who the beast is but everything you said is not true...

 

[flying]

So seeing your exchanges regarding Solomon and his books - where does London and England fit into your thinking? Just curious!

18 After this I saw another angel descending from heaven with great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his glory. 2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen,a and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a place where every unclean spirit* and every unclean and hated bird lurks!b 3 For because of the wine of the passion* of her sexual immorality,* all the nations have fallen victim,c and the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality with her,d and the merchants* of the earth became rich owing to the power of her shameless luxury.”4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people,e if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.f 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven,g and God has called her acts of injustice* to mind.h 6 Repay her in the way she treated others,i yes, pay her back double for the things she has done;j in the cupk she has mixed, mix a double portion for her.l 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For she keeps saying in her heart: ‘I sit as queen, and I am not a widow, and I will never see mourning.’m 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire,n because Jehovah* God, who judged her, is strong.o9 “And the kings of the earth who committed sexual immorality* with her and lived with her in shameless luxury will weep and beat themselves in grief over her when they see the smoke from her burning. 10 They will stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and say: ‘Too bad, too bad, you great city,p Babylon you strong city, because in one hour your judgment has arrived!’11 “Also, the merchants of the earth are weeping and mourning over her, because there is no one to buy their full cargo anymore, 12 a full cargo of gold, silver, precious stones, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, and scarlet cloth; and everything made from scented wood; and every sort of object made from ivory, and from precious wood, copper, iron, and marble; 13 also cinnamon, Indian spice, incense, perfumed oil, frankincense, wine, olive oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle, sheep, horses, carriages, slaves, and human lives.* 14 Yes, the fine fruit that you* desired has left you, and all the delicacies and the splendid things have vanished from you, never to be found again.15 “The merchants who sold these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and will weep and mourn, 16 saying: ‘Too bad, too bad, the great city, clothed with fine linen, purple, and scarlet and richly adorned with gold ornaments, precious stones, and pearls,q 17 because in one hour such great riches have been devastated!’“And every ship captain and every seafaring person and sailors and all those who make a living by the sea stood at a distance 18 and cried out as they looked at the smoke from her burning and said: ‘What city is like the great city?’ 19 They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and mourning, and said: ‘Too bad, too bad, the great city, in which all those who had ships at sea became rich from her wealth, because in one hour she has been devastated!’r20 “Be glad over her, O heaven,s also you holy onest and apostles and prophets, because God has pronounced his judgment on her in your behalf!”u21 And a strong angel lifted up a stone like a great millstone and hurled it into the sea, saying: “Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again.v 22 And the sound of singers who accompany themselves on the harp, of musicians, of flutists, and of trumpeters will never be heard in you again. And no craftsman who practices any trade will ever be found in you again, and no sound of a millstone will ever be heard in you again. 23 No light of a lamp will ever shine in you again, and no voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard in you again; for your merchants were the top-ranking men of the earth, and by your spiritistic practicesw all the nations were misled. 24 Yes, in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy onesx and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”y

 

[Runningman]

18 This is where it calls for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a man’s number,* and its number is 666.y

look at 1kings 10:14 14 And the weight of the gold that came to Solʹo·mon in one year amounted to 666 talents of gold,q

the mystery of the beast name was infront of us all along...

Revelation 13:16-17 It puts under compulsion all people—the small and the great, the rich and the poor, the free and the slaves—that these should be marked on their right hand or on their forehead,v 17 and that nobody can buy or sell except a person having the mark, the namew of the wild beast or the number of its name.x

9 Another angel, a third, followed them, saying in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the wild beastt and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,u 10 he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of His wrath,v and he will be tormented with fire and sulfurw in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever,x and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image and whoever receives the mark of its name.y 12 Here is where it calls for endurance on the part of the holy ones,z those who keep the commandments of God and hold fast to the faitha of Jesus.”

so to escape the wraith of god you must take out solomon's books from your bibles and erase 666 from revelation and from the appendix and from 1kings and if you have a page number 666 scibble over it...Yes you must have a clean bible...

also babylon the mystery she has fallen...

revelation 14: 8 Another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Greatq has fallen,r she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the passion* of her sexual immorality!

the time her sins are remembered for the have amassed up to heaven...

Revelation 17

9 “This calls for a mind* that has wisdom: The seven headsn mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top.

these Mountains that have risen to heaven are the 7 deadly sins which the Queen has presided over it repeats in the heads of the wild scarlot coloured beast she was riding (also the dragon and first wild beast had 7 heads with blasphemous names)...the beast has gone to destruction now to predition...

18 And the womana whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

this is London and England...

the end of tyranical rule where babylon was against human kind and devestated the nations with colonialism and capitalism...

12 “The ten horns that you saw mean ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings for one hour with the wild beast. 13 These have one thought, so they give their power and authority to the wild beast. 14 These will battle with the Lamb,p but because he is Lord of lords and King of kings,q the Lamb will conquer them.r Also, those with him who are called and chosen and faithful will do so.”s

the 10 horns are The Mafia Gangs..The CIA...Mi6...Five Eyes...Drug Lords...War Lords...Leaders of the Common-Wealth...The Anti-Christ...Sinners...Satan

15 He said to me: “The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.*t 16 And the ten hornsu that you saw and the wild beast,v these will hate the prostitutew and will make her devastated and naked, and they will eat up her flesh and completely burn her with fire.x 17 For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought,y yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast,z until the words of God will have been accomplished

revelation 18:3 For because of the wine of the passion* of her sexual immorality,* all the nations have fallen victim,c and the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality with her,d and the merchants* of the earth became rich owing to the power of her shameless luxury.”

4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people,e if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.f 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven,g and God has called her acts of injustice* to mind.h 6 Repay her in the way she treated others,i yes, pay her back double for the things she has done;j in the cupk she has mixed, mix a double portion for her.l 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For she keeps saying in her heart: ‘I sit as queen, and I am not a widow, and I will never see mourning.’m 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire,n because God, who judged her, is strong.

also see Isaisah 47

yes she is the "wolf in sheeps clothing"..."The Shepherd who feeds on the flock"

Jeremiah 23:1 “Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture!” declares the LORD

Revelation 11:18 18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to rewardu your slaves the prophetsv and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining* the earth.”w

While this seems like an interesting subject, unfortunately, it’s a bit overshadowed by the fact that you’re quoting from the New Word Translation, a corrupted Bible translation.

Maybe you didn’t know that at first. Do you like the KJV per chance? KJV is my favorite for Bible studies. Quoting the NWT is probably just going to lead to people complaining and refuting the NWT and that seems antithetical to your intended purpose of this discussion.

The mark of the beast, as we do often hear it called, can actually be more than just a mark which means a literal scratch, etching, or stamp.

Revelation 13:17 says there is also the name of the beast and the number of the beast which are equal in purpose to the mark of the beast, but each looks different. We are not given enough details as to what the mark of the beast or the name of the beast literally is.

Revelation 13:18 does say what the number of the beast is, though, and that number is 666. Six hundred threescore and six literally put on the right hand or forehead, for all intents and purposes, is equal to the scope of the mark of the beast and the name of the beast.

666 is a clue to the name of the beast, though. Apparently it’s the number of a man who, if identified, would reveal what that man’s name is; the man’s name is the name of the beast. Given that the KJV often use male pronouns to generalize about people, we can’t rule out that this could be referring to a woman, in my opinion.

 

[Rhomphaeam]

18 After this I saw another angel descending from heaven with great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his glory. 2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen,a and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a place where every unclean spirit* and every unclean and hated bird lurks!b 3 For because of the wine of the passion* of her sexual immorality,* all the nations have fallen victim,c and the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality with her,d and the merchants* of the earth became rich owing to the power of her shameless luxury.”4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people,e if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.f 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven,g and God has called her acts of injustice* to mind.h 6 Repay her in the way she treated others,i yes, pay her back double for the things she has done;j in the cupk she has mixed, mix a double portion for her.l 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For she keeps saying in her heart: ‘I sit as queen, and I am not a widow, and I will never see mourning.’m 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire,n because Jehovah* God, who judged her, is strong.o9 “And the kings of the earth who committed sexual immorality* with her and lived with her in shameless luxury will weep and beat themselves in grief over her when they see the smoke from her burning. 10 They will stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and say: ‘Too bad, too bad, you great city,p Babylon you strong city, because in one hour your judgment has arrived!’11 “Also, the merchants of the earth are weeping and mourning over her, because there is no one to buy their full cargo anymore, 12 a full cargo of gold, silver, precious stones, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, and scarlet cloth; and everything made from scented wood; and every sort of object made from ivory, and from precious wood, copper, iron, and marble; 13 also cinnamon, Indian spice, incense, perfumed oil, frankincense, wine, olive oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle, sheep, horses, carriages, slaves, and human lives.* 14 Yes, the fine fruit that you* desired has left you, and all the delicacies and the splendid things have vanished from you, never to be found again.15 “The merchants who sold these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and will weep and mourn, 16 saying: ‘Too bad, too bad, the great city, clothed with fine linen, purple, and scarlet and richly adorned with gold ornaments, precious stones, and pearls,q 17 because in one hour such great riches have been devastated!’“And every ship captain and every seafaring person and sailors and all those who make a living by the sea stood at a distance 18 and cried out as they looked at the smoke from her burning and said: ‘What city is like the great city?’ 19 They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and mourning, and said: ‘Too bad, too bad, the great city, in which all those who had ships at sea became rich from her wealth, because in one hour she has been devastated!’r20 “Be glad over her, O heaven,s also you holy onest and apostles and prophets, because God has pronounced his judgment on her in your behalf!”u21 And a strong angel lifted up a stone like a great millstone and hurled it into the sea, saying: “Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again.v 22 And the sound of singers who accompany themselves on the harp, of musicians, of flutists, and of trumpeters will never be heard in you again. And no craftsman who practices any trade will ever be found in you again, and no sound of a millstone will ever be heard in you again. 23 No light of a lamp will ever shine in you again, and no voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard in you again; for your merchants were the top-ranking men of the earth, and by your spiritistic practicesw all the nations were misled. 24 Yes, in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy onesx and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”y

Not wishing to discourage you but:

• The Governments of the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India, Pakistan and Ceylon, whose countries are united as Members of the British Commonwealth of Nations and owe a common allegiance to the Crown, which is also the symbol of their free association, have considered the impending constitutional changes in India.
• The Government of India have informed the other Governments of the Commonwealth of the intention of the Indian people that under the new constitution which is about to be adopted India shall become a sovereign independent republic. The Government of India have however declared and affirmed India’s desire to continue her full membership of the Commonwealth of Nations and her acceptance of The King as the symbol of the free association of its independent member nations and as such the Head of the Commonwealth.
• The Governments of the other countries of the Commonwealth, the basis of whose membership of the Commonwealth is not hereby changed, accept and recognise India’s continuing membership in accordance with the terms of this declaration.
• Accordingly the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India, Pakistan and Ceylon hereby declare that they remain united as free and equal members of the Commonwealth of Nations, freely co-operating in the pursuit of peace, liberty and progress.

London, 22 – 27 April, 1949
The London Declaration

I suppose that is why there are 2.3 billion citizens in the Commonwealth. How is that fallen?

 

[flying]

Not wishing to discourage you but:

• The Governments of the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India, Pakistan and Ceylon, whose countries are united as Members of the British Commonwealth of Nations and owe a common allegiance to the Crown, which is also the symbol of their free association, have considered the impending constitutional changes in India.
• The Government of India have informed the other Governments of the Commonwealth of the intention of the Indian people that under the new constitution which is about to be adopted India shall become a sovereign independent republic. The Government of India have however declared and affirmed India’s desire to continue her full membership of the Commonwealth of Nations and her acceptance of The King as the symbol of the free association of its independent member nations and as such the Head of the Commonwealth.
• The Governments of the other countries of the Commonwealth, the basis of whose membership of the Commonwealth is not hereby changed, accept and recognise India’s continuing membership in accordance with the terms of this declaration.
• Accordingly the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India, Pakistan and Ceylon hereby declare that they remain united as free and equal members of the Commonwealth of Nations, freely co-operating in the pursuit of peace, liberty and progress.

London, 22 – 27 April, 1949
The London Declaration

I suppose that is why there are 2.3 billion citizens in the Commonwealth. How is that fallen?

there is no peace it's a deception and the chosen and faithful and true followers of Jesus christ have been slaughtered as well as innocent blood under the guise of babylon...Im a shepherd of the flock...i leave the 99 and go after the 1... I fight for a Soverign New AotearoA old zealand...i've seen the games corruption plays in the Southern Hemisphere i declare this is Jesus Sphere and i will bring to end the thearter of lies driving man away from his maker...You Sound Like A Politician...(not a good thing) 1 pastor told me a muslim is an example of a holy man and a christian is an example of a business man John 10:16 shows all religions of Peace Coming To The Prince Of Peace...everyone else is the Thief...i give my life for the sheep and will bring the captives out of enslavement i have sworn to My Creator Through Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit All Things Are Possible... I have Tasted Heavely Gifts And Seen Many Miracles...Had Visions And Jesus Has Come To Me In Spirit Form As Described In Revelation...Global Warming Covid and Big Pharma take over Are All Master Plans Of Solomon and the beasts and babylon...The Last king Most likley will be Charles as revelations states he will come and will remain for a Short while...Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet arrived; but when he does arrive, he must remain a short while...#TheCorruptWorldLeaderSystems Will all be Judged and Justice will be swift...We Live In The Now...Tomorrow Is Forbbidden...There Are Next Cycles That We Pray To The Lord To Witness... Evil WIll Be Judged On Yesterdays Cycles Actions There Is No Thing That Is UnKnown To GOD...The schemes And Murders Opression And Atrocities Will Be Known... What Part Of Revelation Do You Not Understand To Be An Advocate For Such Distruction Of People And Planet For Personal Gain Over Monarcy Rule??? WHAT HOLY HUDDLE DO REST IN??? Jesus Came So The World Would Be Free Of Such Manipulation Your BLiND!

 

[Evmur]

Pretty sure some Scholarly folks long ago came to the understanding that the 666 symbole was actually turned upside down and was suppose to be 999

Either way, if someone wants to tatoo you with these symbols..........

DIAL 911 AND RUN!

The emergency no. in the UK is 999 ... help

 

[Blain]

Now you know the name of the beast Solomon... whether you take out the appropriate books and not worship the beast or it's number is your free will you choose...but now is the time to seal up solomon and the number 666 from your bibles... 1 kings 11:39 And I will humiliate the offspring of David because of this,y but not always.’” 41 As for the rest of the history of Solʹo·mon, all that he did and his wisdom, is it not written in the book of the history of Solʹo·mon?c 42 The length* of Solʹo·mon’s reign in Jerusalem over all Israel was 40 years.

the sealing of the seven thunders words...revelation
10 And I saw another strong angel descending from heaven, arrayed* with a cloud, and a rainbow was on his head, and his face was like the sun,a and his legs* were like pillars of fire, 2 and he had in his hand a little scroll that had been unrolled. And he set his right foot on the sea, but his left one on the earth, 3 and he cried out with a loud voice just as when a lion roars.b And when he cried out, the voices of the seven thundersc spoke.4 Now when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write, but I heard a voice out of heavend say: “Seal up the things the seven thunders spoke, and do not write them down.” 5 The angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the earth raised his right hand to heaven, 6 and he swore by the One who lives forever and ever,e who created the heaven and the things in it and the earth and the things in it and the sea and the things in it:f “There will be no delay any longer. 7 But in the days when the seventh angelg is about to blow his trumpet,h the sacred secreti that God declared as good news to his own slaves the prophetsj is indeed brought to a finish.”8 And I heard the voice out of heavenk speaking again with me and saying: “Go, take the opened scroll that is in the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the earth.”l 9 I went to the angel and told him to give me the little scroll. He said to me: “Take it and eat it up,m and it will make your stomach bitter, but in your mouth it will be sweet like honey.” 10 I took the little scroll out of the hand of the angel and ate it,n and in my mouth it was sweet like honey,o but when I had eaten it, my stomach was made bitter. 11 And they said to me: “You must prophesy again about peoples and nations and tongues* and many kings.”

the scroll tasting like honey and making his stomach bitter is a direct reference to solomon and his foolishness read proverbs 5
Solomon is being Mocked by GOD

5 My son, pay attention to my wisdom.Listen carefully* to my discernment,a 2 So that you may guard your thinking abilities And safeguard knowledge with your lips.b 3 For the lips of a wayward* woman drip like a honeycomb,cAnd her mouth is smoother than oil.d 4 But in the end she is as bitter as wormwoodeAnd as sharp as a two-edged sword.f 5 Her feet descend into death.Her steps lead straight to the Grave.* 6 She gives no thought to the path of life.Her course wanders, but she does not know where. 7 Now, my sons, listen to meAnd do not turn away from what I am saying. 8 Stay far away from her;Do not go near the entrance of her house,g 9 So that you may not give your dignity to othershNor reap years of what is cruel;i10 So that strangers may not drain your resources*jAnd what you labored for go to the house of a foreigner.11 Otherwise, you will groan at the end of your lifeWhen your flesh and body waste awayk12 And you say: “How I hated discipline!How my heart despised reproof!13 I did not listen to the voice of my instructorsOr pay attention to my teachers.14 I have come to the brink of complete ruinIn the midst of the entire congregation.”*l15 Drink water from your own cisternAnd flowing* water from your own well.m16 Should your springs be dispersed outside,Your streams of water in the public squares?n17 Let them be for you alone,And not for strangers with you.o18 May your own fountain* be blessed,And may you rejoice with the wife of your youth,p19 A loving doe, a graceful mountain goat.*qLet her breasts satisfy* you at all times.May you be captivated by her love constantly.r20 So why, my son, should you be captivated by a wayward* womanOr embrace the bosom of an immoral* woman?s21 For the ways of man are before the eyes of Jehovah;He examines all his paths.t22 The wicked one is ensnared by his own errors,And he will be caught in the ropes of his own sin.u23 He will die for lack of disciplineAnd go astray because of his excessive foolishness.

Read Revelation14

The scripture refering to sealing up the book was not speaking of Solomon and I think you know that, I can't stand to see people use scripture to try to make it say what they want that is dishonoring the word of God and is shameful. And yet again you fail to show scriptural evidence that we are to seal up the book of solomon and that doing so will save us from the mark you quote many scriptujres but show little if any evidence for your claims. If you want others to do what your asking then show the actual evidence not just make claims and quote tons of verses that have nothing to do with what your claiming.

And just so you know not doing so only shows that you cannot do so and by the way it is not worshipping the beast by not sealing up that which has not been commanded to seal up, the definition of worship is to honor give praise and speak voice of goodness none of which has anything to do with what your asking us to do.
Also another thing it is called the word of God and therefore is not ours to seal up for it is not our word it is his and to even call any part of it not to be his word and to cut it out... I mean maybe you just don't hold scripture to be holy and sacred

 

[flying]

The scripture refering to sealing up the book was not speaking of Solomon and I think you know that, I can't stand to see people use scripture to try to make it say what they want that is dishonoring the word of God and is shameful. And yet again you fail to show scriptural evidence that we are to seal up the book of solomon and that doing so will save us from the mark you quote many scriptujres but show little if any evidence for your claims. If you want others to do what your asking then show the actual evidence not just make claims and quote tons of verses that have nothing to do with what your claiming.

And just so you know not doing so only shows that you cannot do so and by the way it is not worshipping the beast by not sealing up that which has not been commanded to seal up, the definition of worship is to honor give praise and speak voice of goodness none of which has anything to do with what your asking us to do.
Also another thing it is called the word of God and therefore is not ours to seal up for it is not our word it is his and to even call any part of it not to be his word and to cut it out... I mean maybe you just don't hold scripture to be holy and sacred

1kings 10:14 clearly shows who the beast is... I'm just the messenger...If you read Isaiah 45-66 then you will hear how things will be...the scripture i backed it up with makes alot of sense to the one who accepts wisdom and they add to it with their knowledge...Some people just like to debate for the sake of it...So im done.

 

[Blain]

1kings 10:14 clearly shows who the beast is... I'm just the messenger...If you read Isaiah 45-66 then you will hear how things will be...the scripture i backed it up with makes alot of sense to the one who accepts wisdom and they add to it with their knowledge...Some people just like to debate for the sake of it...So im done.

No I don't like to debate just to do so however if your understanding is so solid then you should easily be able to provided the scripture that says to seal up that book and that it will save us from the mark, I am very passionate of his word so that is why I am so adamant about this, your belief about the mark aside I just want actual scripture that says we should do so if you cannot provide that then it is your own incentive to do so not from God

I follow his lead so if I am to do so I need to hear it from him I have not hardly debated you about your understanding of the mark mainly I just want you too provide scripture that states we should defile the word of God in such a way which if you have the wisdom you think you have should be able to do so.