Your not thinking straight . If you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that the scriptures say is the earnest ( Gurantee ) , being put into Christ THIS is the basis for being predestined to the Adoption . No IN THE MIND OF GOD theology needed. My predestination is based in REAL TIME not fictional in the mind of God nonsense . God KNOWING me in REAL TIME ,AS A SON is based in REAL TIME . EVERYTHING !!! I have because of Jesus in REAL TIME is because AFTER I believed ALL SPIRITUAL BLESSINGS IN CHRIST JESUS were given to me . How and why ? Because of some gnostic ' divine ' choosing before i was born, before my parents even knew me ? NO because of something that happened IN TIME . Given to everyone IN HIM , IN REAL TIME !!
You place too much trust in systematic theology and commentaries .
You place too much trust in systematic theology and commentaries .
I don’t need extrapolation, assumptions, your opinion, or huge leaps of logic. Clear scriptural demonstration of your claim that predestination is after conversion.
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