Loss of salvation???

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Genez

Genez

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Yes Sir, and and as we can see in Acts 8,10 and 19 that same message was carried to the Gentiles,Samairitans and to Ephesus.

Jews were not even to speak to the some different people, but in Acts 10 GOD gave Peter a dream and he went with fellow Jews to Cornelius home where there were his family and friends.

What happened?

Gentiles, SAME MESSAGE.

Peter was preaching about JESUS and this happened.
Acts 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Samaritan's, SAME MESSAGE.

Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

Ephesians, SAME MESSAGE.

Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

End result, we can tell that when Peter gave that message it was to the Jews BUT HE HAD NO IDEA it was also for ALL MAN KIND.

Keep in mind when JESUS gave HIS disciples the message in Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

JESUS knew Acts 2:38 was going to be for ALL, go into ALL NATIONS.
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Everything with you, is .... "You say so." So, it is so.

I have no desire to argue.

Go live as you believe, and reap what you "sow."

God will not be mocked.
 
Ouch

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Genez said:
Everything with you, is .... "You say so." So, it is so.

I have no desire to argue.

Go live as you believe, and reap what you "sow."

God will not be mocked.
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I only share HIS word which has nothing to do with me, except storing treasure in Heaven.

If you have a problem with what I share that's between you and him....
 
Genez

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Ouch said:
I have no idea? But I believe you.

Have you obeyed it, baptized in JESUS name to get rid of your sins?

The most important thing is being reborn.
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I see...

I do not know what denomination has baptized you into its legalism.
Just the same....

Have fun bossing people around.
 
Ouch

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Genez said:
I see...

I do not know what denomination has baptized you into its legalism.
Just the same....

Have fun bossing people around.
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I'm confused, if the only way we can get rid of our sins is being baptized in JESUS name without it how do you get rid of your sins?
 
Genez

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I'm confused, if the only way we can get rid of our sins is being baptized in JESUS name without it how do you get rid of your sins?
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What makes you think you can be made never to sin again?
Do you believe you can not sin anymore after you are saved?

We remain after salvation able to sin.
That will not stop as a potential as long as your saved soul remains in the body you were born with.

What we do to cleans ourselves after we catch ourselves sinning is plainly stated in 1 John 1:9.

Here is 1 John 1:8-9.

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If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. ​
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If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and ​
purify us from all unrighteousness.​

'Confess' means to simply acknowledge to God the sin. And, state it to Him privately.

As we mature it becomes as easy and quick as tying our shoe laces.
Its God's way of resetting our spiritual circuit breaker to keep the Holy Spirit filling us.

Grace and peace ...............
 
Ouch

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Genez said:
What makes you think you can be made never to sin again?
Do you believe you can not sin anymore after you are saved?

We remain after salvation able to sin.
That will not stop as a potential as long as your saved soul remains in the body you were born with.

What we do to cleans ourselves after we catch ourselves sinning is plainly stated in 1 John 1:9.

Here is 1 John 1:8-9.

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If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. ​
​
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and ​
purify us from all unrighteousness.​

'Confess' means to simply acknowledge to God the sin. And, state it to Him privately.

As we mature it becomes as easy and quick as tying our shoe laces.
Its God's way of resetting our spiritual circuit breaker to keep the Holy Spirit filling us.

Grace and peace ...............
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Your right, but no idea why you would think I think that.

How do you think we get rid of our sins to be reborn?
 
sawdust

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Ouch said:
Your right, but no idea why you would think I think that.

How do you think we get rid of our sins to be reborn?
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Because you keep saying "get rid of our sins". Our personal sins are forgiven but our inherent sin nature remains, it is not done away with.
 
Genez

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Ouch said:
Your right, but no idea why you would think I think that.

How do you think we get rid of our sins to be reborn?
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In God's eyes.... Jesus was already slain before we were born.
Only God can do that, because God can not fail.

Revelation 13:8​
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All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written ​
in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.​

The Cross took care of the barrier between us and God because of our sins.

Even the unbeliever's sins were paid for!

That is why we were free to believe in Jesus, even while yet we were sinners!

We do not got to Hell for our sins.

They go to hell for rejecting Jesus Christ.
 
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