Loss of salvation???

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posthuman

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when it doesn't make sense it means we have an opportunity to learn something.


we need to recognize that we have been taught garbage for a couple hundred years because the church considers us to be idiots who do not ask basic questions and examine whether the dumbed-down, low view of Christ makes any sense at all. pastors are actively discouraged from teaching deep theology. it drives people away, which lowers revenue.

https://danmusicktheology.com/kenosis/early_fathers.shtml

what you guys are arguing about a powerless, pitiful Jesus is modern, not historical Christianity, and i don't think you even know that. it's just what you've been taught by the modern, exploitative, Laodecian church.


please take the time to explore the information in the link.

goodnight.
 

sawdust

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Darwin, NT
I know the process. You are not listening. On one hand you declare Peter saying He knows all, while on the other you declare that Jesus is allowed to lie because of a human process.

Either, Jesus in His humanity knew the day but lied about it or He didn't know the day because His omniscient Deity kept back the information revealing how He can separate the function of His Deity (in this case omniscience) from the function of His humanity.
 

sawdust

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Darwin, NT
when it doesn't make sense it means we have an opportunity to learn something.


we need to recognize that we have been taught garbage for a couple hundred years because the church considers us to be idiots who do not ask basic questions and examine whether the dumbed-down, low view of Christ makes any sense at all.

https://danmusicktheology.com/kenosis/early_fathers.shtml

what you guys are arguing about a powerless, pitiful Jesus is modern, not historical Christianity, and I don't think you even know that. it's just what you've been taught by the modern, exploitative, Laodecian church.
What makes you think you have all the understanding?

As far as I am concerned you are showing little understanding of what is actually being said but rather making assumptions about what we mean.

I'm not going to continue arguing with someone who can't even get what I'm saying in the first place.
 

posthuman

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What makes you think you have all the understanding?

As far as I am concerned you are showing little understanding of what is actually being said but rather making assumptions about what we mean.

I'm not going to continue arguing with someone who can't even get what I'm saying in the first place.
please peruse the information in the link in previous post.

you have presented no viable argument whatsoever against the perpetual deity of Christ: there is none.

again, goodnight.

no point in continuing a discussion while you remain ignorant of the facts.
i will check back in a couple of days.