Love not the world (1 John 2:15-17)

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MikkoAinasoja

MikkoAinasoja

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Joidevivre said:
That is the most ridiculous thing you could say to me.
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It should the time for you people's to wake up, and really weight the situation were we are today.

The church do not follow the Scriptures, but had made like new religion, which fight against the true values of the church of God.

And how can this be from God?

And where is the marks of the true followers of the Lord? Because if today's world church have true healer's and other gift from God, then why the world do not know about it?

The only gift seems to be in some charismatic way sects which clam to speak tongues, and have some words from God, but I don't buy that, because those are the gift which man may also imitate, that he have.

The true faith is almost gone, and the true follower of our Lord.
 
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eyesonly said:
Your profile says you were saved in 2012 but you're not christian.

Well i guess that is my answer to the bewilderment of your post.

God bless
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so many assumptions.

my planet was destroyed in 2012 i was saved and transported here. Talk about bewilderment o_O

But great way to defer from what i said. right on
 
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Simiel said:
so many assumptions.

my planet was destroyed in 2012 i was saved and transported here. Talk about bewilderment o_O

But great way to defer from what i said. right on
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MikkoAinasoja

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Can you please define for me how you incorporate what you are saying into your life please. Not agreeing or disagreeing with you but your statements are so generalized as to open a very wide door for hypocrisy.

Personally before I accepted Christ year and half ago I truely truely hated this world but only since finding and accepting Christ as my saviour and walking in his word that through him I am finding enjoyment in this life now. So I got a newer car and I love it, just got hardwood floors and I love it, was provided financial relief which allows me not to have to work 7 days a week and I am so loving that.

but I give all the glory to God for what is happening to me through Christ for he is showing me the true meaning and nature of love so everything that I now love in this world I love only because of and through my lord and saviour Christ Jesus.

I have always given with no expectations of receiving for that is where I find joy, but the rewards being bestowed upon me now since walking with Christ are truely a miracle in my life and I accept them with all the love they are given with from him and he gets the praise always for I am nothing without it him.

God bless
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Some people's are always ready for hypocrisy, and they do not fear to give them self to it, because they do not know God. And the beast what I can say to those, is that be honest, so you may come to know the will of God.

Today's christianity is hypocrisy christianity.
 
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MikkoAinasoja said:
Some people's are always ready for hypocrisy, and they do not fear to give them self to it, because they do not know God. And the beast what I can say to those, is that be honest, so you may come to know the will of God.

Today's christianity is hypocrisy christianity.
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Today's generalization is the past, present and future's generalization.
 
MikkoAinasoja

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Today's generalization is the past, present and future's generalization.
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The apostasy has been predicted to come, and in the time of our dear brother apostles, the apostasy was only starting to come in the world, so the situation is much different now.

The real church of God is almost gone, and the man of the last day's are here, and you should also wight your way now carefully, because I see a much of the influence of this world's incontinence in you manners.

It is predicted that the man of the last day's will be without self-control, and also in this forum we see that pretty well, example in all kind of childish act's which of also grown man seems to join.

1. But know this, that in the last days grievous times shall come. 2. For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, railers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3. without natural affection, implacable, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, no lovers of good, 4. traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; 5. holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power therefore. From these also turn away (2 Tim 3:1-5)

Do not go with that world's unholy manners, but cover your selves from it.
 
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eyesonly said:
Can you please define for me how you incorporate what you are saying into your life please. Not agreeing or disagreeing with you but your statements are so generalized as to open a very wide door for hypocrisy.
God bless
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MikkoAinasoja said:
Some people's are always ready for hypocrisy, and they do not fear to give them self to it, because they do not know God. And the beast what I can say to those, is that be honest, so you may come to know the will of God.

Today's christianity is hypocrisy christianity.
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So, you are not going to answer my question because why?
And Christianity can never be hypocritical for that would mean Christ is hypocritical, what i think you mean to say is that Christians themselves are hypocritical, and that's not a revelation because everyone, saved or not is in some way hypocritical in their lives whether they will admit it or not.

God bless
 
MikkoAinasoja

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eyesonly said:
So, you are not going to answer my question because why?
And Christianity can never be hypocritical for that would mean Christ is hypocritical, what i think you mean to say is that Christians themselves are hypocritical, and that's not a revelation because everyone, saved or not is in some way hypocritical in their lives whether they will admit it or not.

God bless
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The sinners are hypocritical, but not real christians.
 
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Mikko please do not assume the gifts given are not present because of those who misrepresent them. The Word says not to despise the gifts. I am here to tell you they are present but the abuse of them by those seeking acceptance from man have marred their good benefits and reality of existence.
 
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MikkoAinasoja said:
The sinners are hypocritical, but not real christians.
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Real Christians can be hypocrites, though I think a real Christian would be sensitive to rebuke. Remember when St. Paul called out St. Peter when he was eating with the Gentiles?

Galatians 2:11-21
 
MikkoAinasoja

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jamie26301 said:
Real Christians can be hypocrites, though I think a real Christian would be sensitive to rebuke. Remember when St. Paul called out St. Peter when he was eating with the Gentiles?

Galatians 2:11-21
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It can be that, our dear brother Peter make different kind of estimate, or even false estimate in the situation, when our dear brother Paulos stand up and correct him.

But in this case I mean real dirty hypocrites, like what we see today, and especially in the western world where, people's live in they wealthy life's and spend they money all kind of vanity, and do not care abou much the poor people's in the world, even though, the helping has newer be so easy than today, when we can do all in our homes in computer, but still no one seems to care, but same time the people's speak about how important is to have love.
 
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MikkoAinasoja said:
The sinners are hypocritical, but not real christians.
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This makes no sense whatsoever. If by the term sinner you mean the lost of the world, they are not hypocrites at all. They are lost and are children of wrath, rebellion an disobedience because they are ruled by the flesh and the sin nature.

I can assure you friend there are many "real Christians" that are hypocritical
 
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eyesonly

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MikkoAinasoja said:
The sinners are hypocritical, but not real christians.
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well this statement is a long way from "todays Christianity is hypocrisy Christianity" that you earlier posted.

and fyi there was/is/and will ever be only one real Christian and his name is Christ Jesus.

every other human being (Christian or otherwise) that has ever/is now/and will ever live on this planet, is hypocritical to some degree. The honest admit it, the blinded deny it.

God bless
 
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MikkoAinasoja said:
It can be that, our dear brother Peter make different kind of estimate, or even false estimate in the situation, when our dear brother Paulos stand up and correct him.

But in this case I mean real dirty hypocrites, like what we see today, and especially in the western world where, people's live in they wealthy life's and spend they money all kind of vanity, and do not care abou much the poor people's in the world, even though, the helping has newer be so easy than today, when we can do all in our homes in computer, but still no one seems to care, but same time the people's speak about how important is to have love.
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oh my you are so very very lost. you generalize people you know nothing about, you presume that wealthy people don't help the poor. you have no clue who does what with what they have.

please don't forget that the word teaches us to not envy or condemn those who have more than you, and don't look down or degrade those that have less than you.

Christ says we will always have the poor, and Christ allowed himself to be rubbed down with that expensive sauve stuff. What you are doing is judging people on a general scale which you really have no idea about, just a societal generalization.

The lesson Christ is giving us, as Paul did as well, is to be content with where you are and what you have. there will always be people with more that you and always people with less than you. Everything is relative.

Also you seem to be judging so many people in such a general terms which is not very Christian of you. Someone who has absolutely nothing, and have the same attitude as you, will be judging you as wealthy in their eyes and vanity in all that you buy and own, and not helping the less fortunate like themselves.
but they know nothing about you, just as you know nothing about the people you judge in your generalizations.

I pray you will get into reading the word in the new testament everyday brother until the spirit of the word seeds itself into your heart and mind and replaces the letter of the word.

God bless

ps; in God's eyes, there is no hypocrisy scale, hypocrisy is hypocrisy to him. you are judging hypocrisy through the eyes and mind of the flesh brother.
 
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This makes no sense whatsoever. If by the term sinner you mean the lost of the world, they are not hypocrites at all. They are lost and are children of wrath, rebellion an disobedience because they are ruled by the flesh and the sin nature.

I can assure you friend there are many "real Christians" that are hypocritical
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The sinner love the lie, and the hypocrisy is they basic value.

And if you say that there are true christian which are hypocrisy, then I say to you that in God there is no darkness, but every man who walk in the darkness, do not know God.

We should not ever try to make the lie look good, or less bad, because that is hypocrisy, which only allows more room for lies to our own life.

To being light, we have to speak truth, the truth is light, but if we change it, it is not anymore truth, but lie. And what good it will make for us or the other, if we speak lies, as a truth?

Always we have to honest in the Lord Jesus Christ, if we wish to stay in him, and inherit the eternal life.

Do not deceive your selves.
 
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MikkoAinasoja said:
The sinner love the lie, and the hypocrisy is they basic value.

And if you say that there are true christian which are hypocrisy, then I say to you that in God there is no darkness, but every man who walk in the darkness, do not know God.

We should not ever try to make the lie look good, or less bad, because that is hypocrisy, which only allows more room for lies to our own life.

To being light, we have to speak truth, the truth is light, but if we change it, it is not anymore truth, but lie. And what good it will make for us or the other, if we speak lies, as a truth?

Always we have to honest in the Lord Jesus Christ, if we wish to stay in him, and inherit the eternal life.

Do not deceive your selves.
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Who are you defining as sinners? believers or unbelievers?
 
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Pot, meet kettle. LOL. ;)
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All I had to do is hit like, and you would speak and think it was a marvel that I would click like.

Thats what is so funny, I didnt need to say anything to get you to tell who it was you were speaking of in your post because you cant contain your hatred and railings
 
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Praise You, LORD! :D

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