Mark 3:1-6 and Modern Day Miracles

[Lamar]

You can test their fruit. Many of the so-called miracle workers end up being exposed in other areas, such as sexual immorality or financial crimes. If someone is being dishonest and deceptive in other areas, it's a pretty safe bet they're being deceptive about their ability to perform miracles.

I understand your point but the moral failures of an individual does not prove or disprove a past event did not happen. The OP speaks of the validity of the claim being used as pretext for authority.

Hence, if the claim of the physical supernatural manifestation is true then the message of who produced the manifestation must also me true. This seems to be the pattern in the Bible.

But today there is no manifestations to prove or disprove because we are simply being presented claims.

This is the point, unlike modern day "prophets" the Bible did not simply use claims of physical supernatural events but purposeful and public manifestations.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I understand your point but the moral failures of an individual does not prove or disprove a past event did not happen. The OP speaks of the validity of the claim being used as pretext for authority.

Hence, if the claim of the physical supernatural manifestation is true then the message of who produced the manifestation must also me true. This seems to be the pattern in the Bible.

But today there is no manifestations to prove or disprove because we are simply being presented claims.

This is the point, unlike modern day "prophets" the Bible did not simply use claims of physical supernatural events but purposeful and public manifestations.

I agree you can't test the validity of a "miracle" that never actually occurred; however, you can test the validity of the claims by observing a person's fruit. If they're a proven liar, you know their claims are also likely bogus.