Martin Luther Invented the "Imputed Righteousness of Christ" Doctrine
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Jas 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Jas 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
A Spirit led life will abstain from sin,because the person does not want to sin,but that does not mean we will not sin,for we can sin if we desire to sin,but as long as we do not want to sin we cannot abstain from sin by the Spirit.
It is obvious that a person that has been saved can hold unto a sin,for it is not talking of someone that sins,but gets rid of it right away,but a person that holds unto sin,and when in that condition they have erred from the truth,and have to be converted again,like the world that holds unto sin,until they confess Christ,not wanting sin,and if we sin willfully,hold unto sin,there is no more sacrifice for that sin,for Jesus' blood cannot wash away a sin that someone holds unto.
So a person can be saved,and go back to holding unto sin like the world without the truth,and if they stop holding unto it,and get concerted back to the position of not wanting sin,it will hide a multitude of sins,for when someone holds unto a sin they will do it quite frequently,and the more sins they hold unto the more sins they commit.
I do not believe a lot of people that confessed Christ actually started off wanting no sin in their life,because of a lot of preachers that say they cannot beat sin,so they repent of their sins,are sorry for what they done wrong,but do not give up the sins,which is true repentance.
As in the case that they have a form of godliness,but they deny the power thereof,ever learning and never able to come to the truth,and the people that said Lord,why can't we dwell with you,He will say you were workers of iniquity,and I never knew you.
So some people that claim Jesus as Lord,and confess Him,did not properly repent of their sins,and receive the Spirit,and that is due to preachers that preach they cannot abstain from sin,but God said,if you do not want sin,and mean it,by the Spirit you can abstain from sin.
A lot of people got the wrong start from the get go,and that preaching that sin does not affect their relationship with Christ,but God said,if they hold unto sin,they need to get rid of it,and it will hide a multitude of sins.
Jas 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
A Spirit led life will abstain from sin,because the person does not want to sin,but that does not mean we will not sin,for we can sin if we desire to sin,but as long as we do not want to sin we cannot abstain from sin by the Spirit.
It is obvious that a person that has been saved can hold unto a sin,for it is not talking of someone that sins,but gets rid of it right away,but a person that holds unto sin,and when in that condition they have erred from the truth,and have to be converted again,like the world that holds unto sin,until they confess Christ,not wanting sin,and if we sin willfully,hold unto sin,there is no more sacrifice for that sin,for Jesus' blood cannot wash away a sin that someone holds unto.
So a person can be saved,and go back to holding unto sin like the world without the truth,and if they stop holding unto it,and get concerted back to the position of not wanting sin,it will hide a multitude of sins,for when someone holds unto a sin they will do it quite frequently,and the more sins they hold unto the more sins they commit.
I do not believe a lot of people that confessed Christ actually started off wanting no sin in their life,because of a lot of preachers that say they cannot beat sin,so they repent of their sins,are sorry for what they done wrong,but do not give up the sins,which is true repentance.
As in the case that they have a form of godliness,but they deny the power thereof,ever learning and never able to come to the truth,and the people that said Lord,why can't we dwell with you,He will say you were workers of iniquity,and I never knew you.
So some people that claim Jesus as Lord,and confess Him,did not properly repent of their sins,and receive the Spirit,and that is due to preachers that preach they cannot abstain from sin,but God said,if you do not want sin,and mean it,by the Spirit you can abstain from sin.
A lot of people got the wrong start from the get go,and that preaching that sin does not affect their relationship with Christ,but God said,if they hold unto sin,they need to get rid of it,and it will hide a multitude of sins.
Do you not understand the substitutionary nature of Jesus' death of the cross, and how it fulfilled the law? You miss the greater part of Christianity in that failure to understand the imputation of sin onto Jesus. Please ask the Holy Spirit of God to reveal His Truth to you that you may walk in full Light of gospel Truth. How many other verses do you throw away because you do not like them due to your failure to harmonize them?
Luke 18:9-14
9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Why was the sinner justified but the one who thought he was righteous by his own deeds was not, according to the Lord Jesus?
9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Why was the sinner justified but the one who thought he was righteous by his own deeds was not, according to the Lord Jesus?
Ole spongebob still spreading sinless perfectionism....all the scriptures in the N.T. applied to believers in the present tense like John in 1st John....If we say that we have no sin we are deceived and the truth is not in us....
John used
WE, WE, WE and US........tells me all I need to know about those who bloviate about not sinning and or no sin in believers.....more cake from the "cake takers"
John used
WE, WE, WE and US........tells me all I need to know about those who bloviate about not sinning and or no sin in believers.....more cake from the "cake takers"
A multitude would be the correct answer......not to mention numerous contexts found.....
Like the Roman soldier....Jesus said he had not seen as much faith and yet the Roman soldier viewed himself UNWORTHY for JESUS to come to his house and under his roof.......or maybe the woman who compared herself to a dog licking the crumbs from the master's table.....I am fairly confident they did not view themselves as sinless perfectionists..............
If we say that we have no sin, we are deceived and the truth is NOT IN US<----ALL sinless perfectionists have NO TRUTH and are deceived!
Like the Roman soldier....Jesus said he had not seen as much faith and yet the Roman soldier viewed himself UNWORTHY for JESUS to come to his house and under his roof.......or maybe the woman who compared herself to a dog licking the crumbs from the master's table.....I am fairly confident they did not view themselves as sinless perfectionists..............
If we say that we have no sin, we are deceived and the truth is NOT IN US<----ALL sinless perfectionists have NO TRUTH and are deceived!
Ya think????
The thing is you cannot add one thing to what Christ has wrought on the cross.
You, as many others, conflate sanctification and evidence of salvation with what one "must do to get to heaven". or, to put it better, you conflate prescriptive and descriptive texts in order to come up with your false works gospel. I see two others, eternally-gratefull and sully also agree with your false conflated message. No surprise there, and it's amazing that their talk and behavior on here doesn't line up with their truncated gospel.
Here's a hint: The latter portions of Paul's epistles are generally describing salvation, not prescribing salvation.
The thing is you cannot add one thing to what Christ has wrought on the cross.
You, as many others, conflate sanctification and evidence of salvation with what one "must do to get to heaven". or, to put it better, you conflate prescriptive and descriptive texts in order to come up with your false works gospel. I see two others, eternally-gratefull and sully also agree with your false conflated message. No surprise there, and it's amazing that their talk and behavior on here doesn't line up with their truncated gospel.
Here's a hint: The latter portions of Paul's epistles are generally describing salvation, not prescribing salvation.
Really? I'm pointing out his "like" of willbob's post I replied to. Perhaps he needs to "unlike" that heresy, then perhaps I'll change my opinion. Right now my position stands.
Keep in mind that this all goes back to his post #36 for context. So, liking his other post is tied to that one.
Keep in mind that this all goes back to his post #36 for context. So, liking his other post is tied to that one.
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It makes ya wonde,r how can they understand the law. If the law stated the most righteous person who walked the earth would be guilty in front of Gods, and need a high priest to make atoenment for their sin. How can these people think they can be righteous enough not to need atonement?
Of course, I am sure the Pharisee thought the High priest only needed to make atonement for the real sinner also. SO it sort of makes sense..
Not!
Of course, I am sure the Pharisee thought the High priest only needed to make atonement for the real sinner also. SO it sort of makes sense..
Not!
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He pulled that out of the greater context of his heresy in post 36. There is more to it than that portion, and to him it means something completely different than what's on the surface. Greater discernment needs to be implemented, sir. We all need to take greater heed to Hebrews 5:11-14. I say this in all due respect. Thanks.