Masturbation

[BibleReader]

I once knew a woman who was unhappy about her marriage and with complete conviction said to me, she'd be perfectly happy with just herself, a "toy" as she put it, and never having to have sex again. Of course, she wanted to "change" her husband into the kind of man she wanted, but it was what is was.

Other people have the opposite problem, and use masturbation as a substitute, young kids going through puberty deal with a lot uncomfortableness they aren't ready for (lol). Our bodies do work in a real way.

Some people would have it justified, well, isn't it better teen boys and girls do that than have sex? Or, hey, its no big deal as long as you aren't fantasizing/visualizing/having impure thoughts to go along with it. Or even if you are, its no big deal? ITs just a fantasy, right? (The dangers of fantasies is it causes you to have unreasonable expectations on a real person).

That kind of thought process is a slippery slope. I would say this, people are going to do it, teens, adults, men, women. It's not ending anytime soon. That's just a practical reality. Ok, sin is bad.... lets stop sinning. Oh wait, a lot of sin is still going on. Yikes.

Do I think its a sin? Sure, but I'm not going to hammer someone over the head about it. Am I going to publically shame someone struggling with it? It doesn't seem like a constructive approach.

I do think the larger message about giving yourself completely over to Christ is more important and once you find yourself on a path of spiritual growth, leaving behind all kinds of sin becomes easier. God gives us the tools to repent.

 

[KohenMatt]

Is masturbation mentioned in the Bible?
Does God ever give any instructions regarding it?

If not, the people of God need to refrain from making strict, harsh and callous judgements about topics God never addressed.

It's OK to have opinions or beliefs on a matter that isn't addressed in Scripture, but it isn't OK to pretend they are God's absolute standards and judge others for differing.

 

[secularhermit]

I´m unworthy of such "name" as Christian... (many people FORGOT what they did before they were married and "charged" others a burden they were unwilling to bear).

Rom 2:1 Some of you accuse others of doing wrong. But there is no excuse for what you do. When you judge others, you condemn yourselves, because you are guilty of doing the very same things.

And what´s the physical instrument a person uses to "consolidate" that fantasy (a lie, by the way)?

Rev 22:15 But outside the city will be dogs, witches, immoral people (φονεῖς καὶ), murderers, idol worshipers, and everyone who loves to tell lies and do wrong.

 

[MarcR]

Youth and children both sexes engage in moral pollution (masturbation) and practice this disgusting, soul-and-body-destroying vice.

Many professed Christians are so benumbed by the same practice that their moral sensibilities cannot be aroused to understand that it is sin, that if continued its sure results will be utter shipwreck of body and mind. Man, the noblest being upon the earth, formed in the image of God, transforms himself into a beast! He makes himself gross and corrupt.

Every Christian will have to learn to restrain his passions and be controlled by principle. Unless he does this, he is unworthy of the Christian name.

Some who make high profession do not understand the sin of self-abuse and its sure results. Long-established habit has blinded their understanding. They do not realize the exceeding sinfulness of this degrading sin, which is enervating the system and destroying their brain nerve power.

Moral principle is exceedingly weak when it conflicts with established habit. Solemn messages from heaven cannot forcibly impress the heart that not fortified against the indulgence of this degrading vice. The sensitive nerves of the brain have lost their healthy tone by morbid excitation to gratify an unnatural desire for sensual indulgence. The brain nerves which communicate with the entire system are the only medium through which Heaven can communicate to man and affect his inmost life.

Whatever disturbs the circulation of the electric currents in the nervous system lessens the strength of the vital powers, and the result is a deadening of the sensibilities of the mind.

When you quote E. G. White, give her cerdit (or blame) for what she said

 

[MarcR]

Is masturbation mentioned in the Bible?
Does God ever give any instructions regarding it?

If not, the people of God need to refrain from making strict, harsh and callous judgements about topics God never addressed.

It's OK to have opinions or beliefs on a matter that isn't addressed in Scripture, but it isn't OK to pretend they are God's absolute standards and judge others for differing.

The only thing close to a mention is: Lev 15:16
16 And if any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even.
KJV

 

[secularhermit]

Is it upsideDOWN Reversed Onanism?



Gen 38:9 But Onan, seeing that the offspring would not be his, went in to his brother's wife, but let his seed go on to the earth, so that he might not get offspring for his brother.

 

[MarcR]

Is it upsideDOWN Reversed Onanism?



Gen 38:9 But Onan, seeing that the offspring would not be his, went in to his brother's wife, but let his seed go on to the earth, so that he might not get offspring for his brother.

Gen 38:9 is not concerned with masturbation or even contraception.

Ge 38:9 is about Onan's refusal to accept an obligation which God had given him.

 

[secularhermit]

Onan was obligated but, what about who are "deprived" emotionally, economically or physically?

What was his real reason to "avoid" a son?

He wanted the pleasure, not such a responsibility.

What about those who felt the push to sex and socially despised as outlaws, outcasts, etc.

If religion insists on seeing it narrowmindedly, no doubt each person would do what they do (just guessing), because very few people are unwilling to be asexual (while many saw it as mass-privation).

The flock would grow when pastors take some extra time to help them find someone to match or be married (Ezek 34:4 You have never protected the weak ones or healed the sick ones or bandaged those that get hurt. You let them wander off and never look for those that get lost. You are cruel and mean to my sheep. )

 

[JesusistheChrist]

Is masturbation mentioned in the Bible?
Does God ever give any instructions regarding it?

If not, the people of God need to refrain from making strict, harsh and callous judgements about topics God never addressed.

It's OK to have opinions or beliefs on a matter that isn't addressed in Scripture, but it isn't OK to pretend they are God's absolute standards and judge others for differing.

What's your take on this:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/110210-masturbation-6.html#post1963966

???

 

[kedge]

NATURAL .

Just because something is natural or grows naturally does not necessarily mean it is good for the individual or that it is right or even morally correct.

 

[Sirk]

Just because something is natural or grows naturally does not necessarily mean it is good for the individual or that it is right or even morally correct.

Well.... the "natural" urges of sexuality precipitated your sucking of air. Unless you were a test tube baby that had a womb with a view.

 

[gotime]

Good post, in a world that teaches masturbation is normal and harmless we need to hear the truth of course we need the solution in Jesus also.

 

[Ella85]

I have a friend that just found out her partner is masturbating and would rather do that than have sex with her.
I have heard that masturbating makes it harder for a male to be turned on during intercourse, I guess the same would go for a woman.
When it becomes a habit and doing it on a regular basis I would disagree with it.
Although everyone has needs and when you have gone without it for a long time I don't see it to be a problem without it becoming an obsession.

 

[gotime]

Masturbation causes more and more lusting, and its incredibly selfish/self focused. I praise God that He freed me from such a curse. All things are possible for those who's faith is in Christ Jesus.

 

[Sirk]

What if it's for a fertility test?

 

[jennymae]

What if it's for a fertility test?

LOL​.........

 

[greg789]

was reading this a bit, (trying to build up courage) but I've been trying really hard lately to stop such lusts, which I've been kinda free from for almost a month now, BUT now my body is doing what it did back in the day when I hardly ever did this. and when I'm sleeping, yes wake up, all over the place, sorry this is more than likely inappropriate.... this was the main reason i started in my teen years. so I didn't have to wake up to this. I have no clue if this is natural or what.

but yeah saying someone hasn't handed themselves completely over to God b/c of sin, I don't know how you guys can do it. It has driven me crazy to the point where I ask God, mainly b/c I recently had really strong and hurtful emotions these past couple of months.
I asked "Lord these horrible sins creep into my thoughts (and no not just Lust of sex but other horrible thoughts) plz Jesus I'm hurting you more than I'm hurting myself, I seek your wisdom if not then maybe take me now, It's hard to live, but then I thought, didn't Jesus die for all our sins, even future sin? so yeah, more than likely we will sin until our death, since death is our punishment for sin if I'm not mistaken.

but if anyone wants to give me some type of wisdom let me know b/c I've decided that just b/c my intellect is horrible doesn't mean I lack the ability to learn.

Thank You Jesus, and plz Forgive me!

 

[breno785au]

Just thought i'd say, I'm pretty sick of seeing Masturbation on my screen every time I come into this forum. I know this post doesn't help but can we possibly let this thread die? I'm no prude or anything and I know it's an issue but I really am pretty over it.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Just thought i'd say, I'm pretty sick of seeing Masturbation on my screen every time I come into this forum. I know this post doesn't help but can we possibly let this thread die? I'm no prude or anything and I know it's an issue but I really am pretty over it.

amen..i agree..there's already several dozen threads on here about masturbation..

 

[zaoman32]

so much anger