Messianic Jewish Rabbi Jonathan Cahn relates Isaiah 9 to the United States and 9/11

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The point is that we're paralleling what was done in Isaiah 9. In the face of wrath after 9/11, rather than repent and ask for God's forgiveness, we preach "rebuild and get stronger," "shop and spend to keep the market going," "kill our enemies in the Middle East." In the past decade we've turned further and further from God, with the widespread acceptance of abortion, the war agenda, the greed economy, etc. Meanwhile, there’s little focus on the need to humble ourselves and exalt Jesus Christ.


Several leaders (Tom Daschle, John Edwards, Barack Obama) referred to Isaiah 9:10, intentionally comparing us to Israel. They referred to the passage as a means of inspiration to stand proud and rebuild in the face of challenges, but the point of the passage is that Israel was defying God. We "say with pride and arrogance of heart, 'The bricks have fallen down, but we will rebuild with dressed stone'" (Isaiah 9:9). Rebuilding without repentance further distances us from God. We're a nation drunk with pride.


The rabbi keys on specific signs, for example the exact types of trees that were struck down and planted in both Isaiah 9 and at Ground Zero. His book is The Harbinger.
 

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Cahn makes good points but I think it's a stretch connecting the dots from Isa 9 to 21century America in particular.
 
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Cahn makes good points but I think it's a stretch connecting the dots from Isa 9 to 21century America in particular.
Isaiah 9 was 2,600 years ago, but it teaches us how God deals with nations.

The day after 9/11, Congress was gathered and Tom Daschle gave his speech, referring directly to Isaiah 9:10: "the bricks have fallen down, but we will rebuild with dressed stone." John Edwards framed a speech around the same verse, again comparing us to Israel. They say it for inspiration, but they have it backwards. The point of Isaiah 9 is that Israel is defying God with "pride and arrogance of heart" and God will soon punish them for it. The USA is on the same path: lacking repentance, turning further from God. Our leaders preach ungodly messages: "stand proud of ourselves," "shop, shop, shop," "kill our enemies in the Middle East." Instead we should be preaching the gospel to our enemies, we should be humbling ourselves, and we should be praising Jesus Christ.

I keep hoping that our leaders will at least mention the need for us to praise God and repent (Obama spoke at my school a few days ago and took some questions. I didn't get a ticket, but that's exactly what I would have asked: what is your relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ?). We're aborting millions of our babies every year. Yes, we as a nation are rejecting God. And 9/11 was not only about this country; it was a signal for the house of cards that we call our global economy to begin collapse 7 years later.

The rabbi keys on nine harbingers, for example the exact types of trees that were struck down and planted in both Isaiah 9 and at Ground Zero.

Isaiah 9 was about Israel thousands of years ago, but we should realize how it relates to the way God is dealing with us today, especially when our leaders are directly referencing it, putting us in the place of Israel.
 

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God's covenant is with Israel not America although human nature is the same in all nations that walk in darkness...'WE will rebuild'' is a symptom of pride. It took the confusion of languages at Babel to nip that scene in the bud.