MISUSING ISAIAH 28:10 AS A HERMENEUTIC PRINCIPLE: PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT

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Often, cultic groups (and Christians) claim that Isaiah 28:10 is a hermeneutic or principle of biblical interpretation.

While it is true that one can gain knowledge of the Bible through looking at all of what Scripture has to say on a topic, one must always consider the context. If the contexts of two different passages are similar, then the two sets of Scripture can provide support. However, Isaiah 28:10 does not teach a hermeneutic method and to use it that way is incorrect.

The reason I bring this up is that I was involved in a cultic group which did just that. They treated the Bible like a coded book that needed to be assembled together in a manner that arrived at the peculiar theology of the group, even if different contexts were involved.

Let's look at the verses IN CONTEXT in Isaiah 28, which is how we should be reading them:

3The proud crown of the drunkards of Ephraim
will be trodden underfoot;
4and the fading flower of its glorious beauty,
which is on the head of the rich valley,
will be like a first-ripe fig[SUP]a[/SUP] before the summer:
when someone sees it, he swallows it
as soon as it is in his hand.5In that day the Lord of hosts will be a crown of glory,[SUP]b[/SUP]
and a diadem of beauty, to the remnant of his people,
6and a spirit of justice to him who sits in judgment,
and strength to those who turn back the battle at the gate.
7These also reel with wine
and stagger with strong drink;
the priest and the prophet reel with strong drink,

they are swallowed by[SUP]c[/SUP] wine,
they stagger with strong drink,
they reel in vision,
they stumble in giving judgment.

8For all tables are full of filthy vomit,
with no space left.
9“To whom will he teach knowledge,
and to whom will he explain the message?
Those who are weaned from the milk,
those taken from the breast?
10For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
line upon line, line upon line,
here a little, there a little.”

11For by people of strange lips
and with a foreign tongue
the Lord will speak to this people,
12to whom he has said,
“This is rest;
give rest to the weary;
and this is repose”;
yet they would not hear.
13And the word of the Lord will be to them
precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
line upon line, line upon line,
here a little, there a little,
that they may go, and fall backward,
and be broken, and snared, and taken



Here is a good explanation on these verses:

28:1-13 The leaders of Ephraim are drunkards (v. 1). Incapable of pointing their people to their true hope in Yahweh (vv. 5-6), they rely on rote commands (v. 10). Consequently, God will have to teach them the truth through people who speak in strange tongues (the Assyrian captivity) (v. 11) and who will also give commands (v. 13).

So, using Isaiah 28:10 for support regarding "proof-texting" is not a proper use of these verses. Whether proof-texting is acceptable or not, these verses don't support it. However, I see them constantly used to support it.

There is an additional view in that v 9-10 are reflecting the mocking of the leaders of Israel concerning Isaiah's message..that he is being mocked by them and are reflecting pride in their own knowledge; that such a man as Isaiah was criticizing THEM for their lack of knowledge but the end result is their own fall (v. 13). At any rate, there's no sound basis for using this as a hermeneutical principle to justify proof-texting.
 
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Here's a good example of proof-texting:

Many Christian ministers and Christian teachers have used some version of the following humorous anecdote to demonstrate the dangers of prooftexting: "A man dissatisfied with his life decided to consult the Bible for guidance. Closing his eyes, he flipped the book open and pointed to a spot on the page. Opening his eyes, he read the verse under his finger. It read, 'Then Judas went away and hanged himself' (Matthew 27:5b). Finding these words unhelpful, the man randomly selected another verse. This one read, 'Jesus told him, "Go and do likewise."' (Luke 10:37b). In desperation, he tried one more time. The text he found was: 'What you are about to do, do quickly.'" (John 13:27).
 
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Here's a good example of proof-texting:

Many Christian ministers and Christian teachers have used some version of the following humorous anecdote to demonstrate the dangers of prooftexting: "A man dissatisfied with his life decided to consult the Bible for guidance. Closing his eyes, he flipped the book open and pointed to a spot on the page. Opening his eyes, he read the verse under his finger. It read, 'Then Judas went away and hanged himself' (Matthew 27:5b). Finding these words unhelpful, the man randomly selected another verse. This one read, 'Jesus told him, "Go and do likewise."' (Luke 10:37b). In desperation, he tried one more time. The text he found was: 'What you are about to do, do quickly.'" (John 13:27).
first heard that one years ago

still funny and still true. so many people do that
 
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This is usually done by those that apply a intellectual & educational method to Bible Study...and do not let the Spirit speak to them through the word...
 

Johnny_B

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I was part of a group that used this not really for hermeneutics, but for teaching verse by verse, chapter by chapter and book by book, which I love. It like Jesus knew which day or Sabbath that Isaiah 61 was going to be read and He read it. One other thing that is different in the west is Jesus sat down to teach and the people stood up, we do it backwards the people sit and the teacher stands. I never knew this before and when I learned it, it reminded me that when I would talk with JW', mormons I would sit in the threshold of my house, I felt like they didn't see me as treating. I did have a group of JW's that came to my house often and one of the guys would bring people to my house to introduce me to them and they would come back and we study the Bible. We had an agreement that we wouldn't bring up a new subject until we agreed to move on.

Then one day after a while of this going on I brought out a 1960 watchtower new world translation and showed them in Hebrews 1:6 "And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God's angels worship him.” Because they said that the Bible never says to worship Jesus, I
mentioned this verse they looked it up in their new world translation and it said "ovations" so I asked them how long they had been JW's then I showed them the 1960 version and they couldn't believe it, they examined the book closely and said we are going to bring a presiding overseer over to look at this and talk to you. They never came back and the next few times I seen the JW"s on my street. Someone in a car would come up to the ones that were headed to my house and he would tell them something with his hands making gesture as to not go to that house.