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I have a whole, totally unsubstantiated theory that in fact, humanity has "devolved," within kind.
So God created humanity perfect on the 6th day of creation. Then came the Fall and sin entered the world. Humans were exposed to all kinds of new factors such as radiation, lack of a ready food source, etc, many of which were not positive for the genome.
So gradually disease entered into the human race, including genetic illnesses caused by mutations.
The Jews were a good case for this. Abraham married his half sister, Isaac his cousin and Jacob a near relative. (Today, that would be a recipe for horrible deformities if not death of the baby!)
God doesn't judge or condemn the patriarchs for marrying near relatives.
Then in Lev 18:6-18, God forbids the marrying of close relatives. So, I think the gene pool became constricted, and God spoke to stop the transmission of genetics illnesses. Because he didn't make a rule before this point.
So gradually, more and more illnesses enter the gene pool. Until today, where you have a real genetic burden, which would have shocked Adam and Eve.
So, yes, we are still the same species. But we have gone downhill since God created us. Not uphill and become better human beings or added new organs that do amazing things!
The scientific and historical evidence clearly points to the fact that sin brought evil, including the gradual decay of the human race. This leads us to the hope we have in Jesus Christ. When he comes again, we will receive our resurrection bodies, which will be free from pain and suffering. I'm looking forward to that day!
So God created humanity perfect on the 6th day of creation. Then came the Fall and sin entered the world. Humans were exposed to all kinds of new factors such as radiation, lack of a ready food source, etc, many of which were not positive for the genome.
So gradually disease entered into the human race, including genetic illnesses caused by mutations.
The Jews were a good case for this. Abraham married his half sister, Isaac his cousin and Jacob a near relative. (Today, that would be a recipe for horrible deformities if not death of the baby!)
God doesn't judge or condemn the patriarchs for marrying near relatives.
Then in Lev 18:6-18, God forbids the marrying of close relatives. So, I think the gene pool became constricted, and God spoke to stop the transmission of genetics illnesses. Because he didn't make a rule before this point.
So gradually, more and more illnesses enter the gene pool. Until today, where you have a real genetic burden, which would have shocked Adam and Eve.
So, yes, we are still the same species. But we have gone downhill since God created us. Not uphill and become better human beings or added new organs that do amazing things!
The scientific and historical evidence clearly points to the fact that sin brought evil, including the gradual decay of the human race. This leads us to the hope we have in Jesus Christ. When he comes again, we will receive our resurrection bodies, which will be free from pain and suffering. I'm looking forward to that day!
M
I can kind of understand why atheists believe in evolution, since they chose
not to believe in God the only other option is evolution or Alien invasion! And there
are plenty who believe in the latter.
What I really don't understand are Christians who also believe in evolution.
They must really struggle with the verses that mankind is made in the image of
God, presumably they think God evolved as well.
I think for the Christian you really have to nail your colours to the mast and dare to
say I believe in creation. Otherwise they might as well chuck out the whole bible and
just declare themselves atheists.
not to believe in God the only other option is evolution or Alien invasion! And there
are plenty who believe in the latter.
What I really don't understand are Christians who also believe in evolution.
They must really struggle with the verses that mankind is made in the image of
God, presumably they think God evolved as well.
I think for the Christian you really have to nail your colours to the mast and dare to
say I believe in creation. Otherwise they might as well chuck out the whole bible and
just declare themselves atheists.
A
I agree with you. The study of aging is caused by the mutations made when our cells replicate and don't copy the long repeat sequences at the end.
I believed God created a template of animals and they each had all the genes to code for the various diverse traits we see but are not expressed. However separation and mutation caused groups to be isolated and become separate species we have today who are no longer able to interbreed.
Like Adam and eve were the first humans. God made a pair of birds, snakes, fish, turtle, etc.
I believed God created a template of animals and they each had all the genes to code for the various diverse traits we see but are not expressed. However separation and mutation caused groups to be isolated and become separate species we have today who are no longer able to interbreed.
Like Adam and eve were the first humans. God made a pair of birds, snakes, fish, turtle, etc.
Although it's not the exact question, and not that I agree, here's what "they" say:
How come there are still monkeys? - RationalWiki
How come there are still monkeys? - RationalWiki
M
Basically again ..monkeys are just called another name...but still monkeys... They evolved but didn't really change? While we are supposed to believe that everything else changes...monkeys didn't not except for those that changed into people...but some monkeys stayed the same ..even though they evolved?? How can people be so stupid?
S
Ya but what isn't observable are the tremendous odds against any sort species to species "evolution". Even Darwin doubted his theory. God created.... period. And he created it all not very long ago. The Grand Canyon wasn't formed over eons. It happened over night. Evolution is a lie and attempts to cast doubt on God doing it the way he said he did.
Ariel82 Firstly Natural selection is not the same thing as evolution. Natural selection is the process by which the best adapted animals within a species survive or have more offspring.
Secondly you have acknowledged that common ancestors are debatable
Thirdly you state homologous and analogous structures are observable, I would expect similar structures doing the same job in different species, and does not provide evidence in support for or against evolution.
Secondly you have acknowledged that common ancestors are debatable
Thirdly you state homologous and analogous structures are observable, I would expect similar structures doing the same job in different species, and does not provide evidence in support for or against evolution.
I don't think you really understand evolution. The process is something like this.
There is this round ball covered with lots of different rocks. This comment named Evol passes by every million or so years, and slaps the ball with it's tail. The early passes resulted in whipping some of the rocks into single cell creatures. The next time it passed the tail whipped some of the single cells into multi-cell creatures. This process has repeated until a few hundred thousand years ago when the tail whipped some creature into humans. Evolutionists are anxiously awaiting the next pass of Evol to see what it will whip man into.
Do you now understand the real theory of evolution?
There is this round ball covered with lots of different rocks. This comment named Evol passes by every million or so years, and slaps the ball with it's tail. The early passes resulted in whipping some of the rocks into single cell creatures. The next time it passed the tail whipped some of the single cells into multi-cell creatures. This process has repeated until a few hundred thousand years ago when the tail whipped some creature into humans. Evolutionists are anxiously awaiting the next pass of Evol to see what it will whip man into.
Do you now understand the real theory of evolution?
S
You forgot to say that on top that...other comets crashed into this ball of death and brought exactly the right amount of water with them and then this grey ball we call the moon was put exactly the right distance away... not to mention that the earth formed in the exact right spot in relation to the sun. And that doesn't even consider the sun being the exact kind of star formed from nothing to give us warmth....and all that doesn't even scratch the surface as to the statistical impossibilities for things to be the way they are. We are here the way that God put us here and are the offspring of eight people who built a boat out of gopher wood.
I do agree with you that evolution is ridiculous, but evolutionists are quick to point out that evolution does not teach men came from monkeys....Apparently they believe monkeys and humans came from a common ancestor? I don't understand how they even "use" the scientific method to come up with this....
M
Exaclty...everytime anyone studies out to prove one of their lies...they just change the terms of the lie to cloud the issue... They put ape teeth with a human skull and teach it a proof for thirty years and hide it away from any honest scientist to look at...then then that lie is exposed ..they just make up more nonsense
M
read your own words..they don't believe we came from monkeys but have a common ancestor (that was like a monkey) they just play games with words so people don't see how stupid what they are saying is.
You can change the name of it to whatever...but its still a monkey... and its basically the same monkey we have today.. It did not evolve...well they say it did..but it didn't "change" .....what?
You can change the name of it to whatever...but its still a monkey... and its basically the same monkey we have today.. It did not evolve...well they say it did..but it didn't "change" .....what?
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