Muslims are not born of the Spirit and worship a false God.

[BradC]

At the great white throne judgment of (Rev 20:11-15) there will be many who will appear before that throne whose names are not written in the Lamb's book of life. There will not be a single self professing Muslim who has not denounced their religion, Mohammad and Allah who will escape from the rejection of not being recognized as a part of the family of God by the judge on that throne. There will be no mercy and no grace from the judge to save them and they will be judged according to their works that are written in the books and then cast into the lake of fire, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth and where the fire is no quenched.

There are many who are empathizing with Muslims these days because they see many of them as good people and hard workers who worship Allah. They even claim that it is the same God that we worship through Jesus Christ. It is not the same God and never has been the same God. To worship God one must come through the Son of God, and the cross of Christ and worship Him according to the Spirit and according to the truth we have through the words of Jesus Christ. All those who worship God contrary to Jesus Christ and the Spirit of truth are worshiping false gods and are under the condemnation and wrath of Almighty God.

Muslims are an enemy of the cross of Christ and are unable to worship the true God. They are engaged in an unfruitful work and religion of darkness that does not have the light of God or the redemption that is in His Son, Jesus Christ. They must not only hear the gospel of Christ and Him crucified but must denounce their religion and every aspect of it to be saved by the mercy and grace of God.

 

[fozi]

How can u say that......what is this logic God of muslims or God of christians..God is one.people all around the world remember him in their heart whether they belong to any religion........Muslims worship the one God,the creator of this universe and human beings.
Who sent prophets in the world to guide human beings.

 

[cfultz3]

How can u say that......what is this logic God of muslims or God of christians..God is one.people all around the world remember him in their heart whether they belong to any religion........Muslims worship the one God,the creator of this universe and human beings.
Who sent prophets in the world to guide human beings.

I am sure you do not mean that all humans worship the same god, if that was the case then Jehovah's judgment on idolatry is in error. Don't you think?

 

[ji]

At the great white throne judgment of (Rev 20:11-15) there will be many who will appear before that throne whose names are not written in the Lamb's book of life. There will not be a single self professing Muslim who has not denounced their religion, Mohammad and Allah who will escape from the rejection of not being recognized as a part of the family of God by the judge on that throne. There will be no mercy and no grace from the judge to save them and they will be judged according to their works that are written in the books and then cast into the lake of fire, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth and where the fire is no quenched.

There are many who are empathizing with Muslims these days because they see many of them as good people and hard workers who worship Allah. They even claim that it is the same God that we worship through Jesus Christ. It is not the same God and never has been the same God. To worship God one must come through the Son of God, and the cross of Christ and worship Him according to the Spirit and according to the truth we have through the words of Jesus Christ. All those who worship God contrary to Jesus Christ and the Spirit of truth are worshiping false gods and are under the condemnation and wrath of Almighty God.

Muslims are an enemy of the cross of Christ and are unable to worship the true God. They are engaged in an unfruitful work and religion of darkness that does not have the light of God or the redemption that is in His Son, Jesus Christ. They must not only hear the gospel of Christ and Him crucified but must denounce their religion and every aspect of it to be saved by the mercy and grace of God.

muslims aren't animals.They are also human beings.
i have found good muslims who cared for me better than the so called christians who are selfish..
The prob is their doctrine,islam....that is devilish..
Do NOT Hate muslims,Love them and Pray for them that many may still turn to Christ.
They need Him and deserve Him better than many of us who don't even know the beginning steps of hospitality..
They do it,no am not talking about the radicals,speaking of which the western militia stands on top rank for killing innocents..

Pray for muslims,that many can see Jesus as God Lord Almighty...
debating doesn't work where Revelation must happen..

we must be thankful to Jesus that we came to Truth and must be Praying for many..even if we are to lay down our lives by the hands of those whom we Pray for(for their Salvation)..that's how Love of God is shown.

Simply speaking,stay away from islam,love the person who follows it and win them to Christ.

 

[ji]

How can u say that......what is this logic God of muslims or God of christians..God is one.people all around the world remember him in their heart whether they belong to any religion........Muslims worship the one God,the creator of this universe and human beings.
Who sent prophets in the world to guide human beings.

secularism doesn't work in Christianity nor in islam,...

 

[RedTent]

How can u say that......what is this logic God of muslims or God of christians..God is one.people all around the world remember him in their heart whether they belong to any religion........Muslims worship the one God,the creator of this universe and human beings.
Who sent prophets in the world to guide human beings.

Muslims worship a god with a different name and different characteristics. You are taking the word of a man calling himself a prophet, who lived thousands of years after people were told of the one true God and 500 years after Christ. He was a very intelligent con artist. He could dupe millions into believing him yet with no proof. He didn't even invent a God who could produce only good. Look at the conditions of the people in your nations, and the conditions of your women. The women have even been asked to hide their faces and the men can't be trusted with them.

This man copied much of what the true God said, even lots of the laws, and even when some try to obey them on their own without the help that the true God gives us, there are times that men will murder women to save honor and other men say it is fine to do. Wake up and think about it on your own, not by lies you have been told.

 

[RedTent]

muslims aren't animals.They are also human beings.
i have found good muslims who cared for me better than the so called christians who are selfish..
The prob is their doctrine,islam....that is devilish..
Do NOT Hate muslims,Love them and Pray for them that many may still turn to Christ.
They need Him and deserve Him better than many of us who don't even know the beginning steps of hospitality..
They do it,no am not talking about the radicals,speaking of which the western militia stands on top rank for killing innocents..

Pray for muslims,that many can see Jesus as God Lord Almighty...
debating doesn't work where Revelation must happen..

we must be thankful to Jesus that we came to Truth and must be Praying for many..even if we are to lay down our lives by the hands of those whom we Pray for(for their Salvation)..that's how Love of God is shown.

Simply speaking,stay away from islam,love the person who follows it and win them to Christ.

Thanks you for this. Many of us would be taken in with talk of Allah as actually God if we were born into a family who believed it. We are SO lucky!

You are pointing out places that people following a false God do better at living how God tells us to live than we do! It is our shame. Many of us have denied our family God gave us, when scripture tells us to honor the fact the God used parents for their creation, even. For us, we follow the Kinsey report and Hollywood about family, it isn't so much turning on the sin of our parents. Few Christians think of hospitality as following Christ. We say Christ got rid of the ten commandments. It is true, many Christians need to live their faith much better than they do.

But the Muslims doing the work without the faith and living it in spirit and truth is not working for them. The one true God points that out to us over and over, all doing without grace simply doesn't work. Just as grace without doing doesn't work.

 

[The_highwayman]

At the great white throne judgment of (Rev 20:11-15) there will be many who will appear before that throne whose names are not written in the Lamb's book of life. There will not be a single self professing Muslim who has not denounced their religion, Mohammad and Allah who will escape from the rejection of not being recognized as a part of the family of God by the judge on that throne. There will be no mercy and no grace from the judge to save them and they will be judged according to their works that are written in the books and then cast into the lake of fire, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth and where the fire is no quenched.

There are many who are empathizing with Muslims these days because they see many of them as good people and hard workers who worship Allah. They even claim that it is the same God that we worship through Jesus Christ. It is not the same God and never has been the same God. To worship God one must come through the Son of God, and the cross of Christ and worship Him according to the Spirit and according to the truth we have through the words of Jesus Christ. All those who worship God contrary to Jesus Christ and the Spirit of truth are worshiping false gods and are under the condemnation and wrath of Almighty God.

Muslims are an enemy of the cross of Christ and are unable to worship the true God. They are engaged in an unfruitful work and religion of darkness that does not have the light of God or the redemption that is in His Son, Jesus Christ. They must not only hear the gospel of Christ and Him crucified but must denounce their religion and every aspect of it to be saved by the mercy and grace of God.

Just so I am clear, are you positing this to remind us that Muslims are just like you or me, before we got saved?

I am at a loss why this was even posted....what you describe is the condition of ALL that are lost, not just a select group of people based on their beliefs or sexual orientation.

 

[The_highwayman]

At the great white throne judgment of (Rev 20:11-15) there will be many who will appear before that throne whose names are not written in the Lamb's book of life. There will not be a single self professing Muslim who has not denounced their religion, Mohammad and Allah who will escape from the rejection of not being recognized as a part of the family of God by the judge on that throne. There will be no mercy and no grace from the judge to save them and they will be judged according to their works that are written in the books and then cast into the lake of fire, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth and where the fire is no quenched.

There are many who are empathizing with Muslims these days because they see many of them as good people and hard workers who worship Allah. They even claim that it is the same God that we worship through Jesus Christ. It is not the same God and never has been the same God. To worship God one must come through the Son of God, and the cross of Christ and worship Him according to the Spirit and according to the truth we have through the words of Jesus Christ. All those who worship God contrary to Jesus Christ and the Spirit of truth are worshiping false gods and are under the condemnation and wrath of Almighty God.

Muslims are an enemy of the cross of Christ and are unable to worship the true God. They are engaged in an unfruitful work and religion of darkness that does not have the light of God or the redemption that is in His Son, Jesus Christ. They must not only hear the gospel of Christ and Him crucified but must denounce their religion and every aspect of it to be saved by the mercy and grace of God.

What is next Brad, more silly posts with titles like:

[h=2]HOMOSEXUALS are not born of the Spirit and worship a false God.[/h][h=2]CATHOLICS are not born of the Spirit and worship a false God.[/h][h=2]WOMEN WEARING JEANS are not born of the Spirit and worship a false God.[/h]
[h=2]PEOPLE THAT HAVE TATTOOS are not born of the Spirit and worship a false God.[/h]
[h=2]WOMEN IN BIKINI'S are not born of the Spirit and worship a false God.[/h]
[h=2]PEOPLE THAT SMOKE are not born of the Spirit and worship a false God.[/h]
[h=2]PEOPLE WHO DON'T GO TO CHURCH are not born of the Spirit and worship a false God.[/h]
[h=2]PEOPLE THAT DRINK ALCOHOL are not born of the Spirit and worship a false God.[/h]
[h=2]ANYONE IN A DIFFERENT DENOMINATION are not born of the Spirit and worship a false God.[/h][h=2][/h]
[h=2]those who will not be a zealous defender of the faith and tell people what the word says are not born of the Spirit and worship a false God.[/h]
[h=2][/h]

 

[And]

Those who do not abide in the word of God, and criticize others or speak bad about others or point out a group are satanic controlled.

Our job is not to point or pick on
anyone derogatizing others is from the devil.

Satan is not a name, satan means ACCUSER

anyone accusing others or pointing them out is satanic.

Apostate means
The term apostasy is used by sociologists to mean renunciation and criticism of, or opposition to, a person's former religion

anyone criticizing or speaking against bible believers is apostate.

 

[ji]

Muslims worship a god with a different name and different characteristics. You are taking the word of a man calling himself a prophet, who lived thousands of years after people were told of the one true God and 500 years after Christ. He was a very intelligent con artist. He could dupe millions into believing him yet with no proof. He didn't even invent a God who could produce only good. Look at the conditions of the people in your nations, and the conditions of your women. The women have even been asked to hide their faces and the men can't be trusted with them.

This man copied much of what the true God said, even lots of the laws, and even when some try to obey them on their own without the help that the true God gives us, there are times that men will murder women to save honor and other men say it is fine to do. Wake up and think about it on your own, not by lies you have been told.

"He was a very intelligent con artist. He could dupe millions into believing him yet with no proof. He didn't even invent a God who could produce only good. Look at the conditions of the people in your nations, and the conditions of your women. The women have even been asked to hide their faces and the men can't be trusted with them.

This man copied much of what the true God said, even lots of the laws, and even when some try to obey them on their own without the help that the true God gives us, there are times that men will murder women to save honor and other men say it is fine to do. Wake up and think about it on your own, not by lies you have been told."

muhammad was not an intelligent man,he was a possessed person.Rest of the things he did we know if we study History.That's why his life is not recorded in quran.And we all know where he is now...
Nobody can rescue him from there,its eternal...

Now am not trying to praise muslims here,no,...lol

But its just that there are many good hearted people in them.They deserve to know Jesus and we have a duty to Pray for them that many of such may come to Christ.
am not promoting islam..
but just that what is our worth(by God's Grace in Christ) to criticize another person who behaves kindly to another human being.we must share the Love of God so that it reflects and makes transformations in their heart...
When people from other Faith comes to Christ,its a sight to see.
The sparkle of life in their eyes they exhibit,its a marvelous sight.
And their zeal is much better than us,when they realize who really Jesus is and the price He paid to redeem them whom they called 'infidel',...that how many died for Jesus throughout History.
God embrace them just like He did when Stephen was stoned to death.
we must Pray for muslims that they must come in large numbers before the deception begins(their mehndi rule-the antichrist rule takes over)...its our duty to reflect Christ when debating doesn't work with them.

islam is lunacy,i agree...but people following it are people like us,they need Jesus.Only thing bad in them is their doctrine that they follow...

God Bless..

 

[GodIsSalvation]

I think a few simple statemnts sums up muslims and islam.

Muslims = the peoples most oppressed by Islam. Great pity to them indeed!

Islam = possibly most evil religion ever devised in all known history. May the idol of Mecca be destroyed!

Solution = destroy Islam and try to liberate as many poor people as is possible that are caught in its snare. May Jesus save many!

 

[RedTent]

"He was a very intelligent con artist. He could dupe millions into believing him yet with no proof. He didn't even invent a God who could produce only good. Look at the conditions of the people in your nations, and the conditions of your women. The women have even been asked to hide their faces and the men can't be trusted with them.

This man copied much of what the true God said, even lots of the laws, and even when some try to obey them on their own without the help that the true God gives us, there are times that men will murder women to save honor and other men say it is fine to do. Wake up and think about it on your own, not by lies you have been told."

muhammad was not an intelligent man,he was a possessed person.Rest of the things he did we know if we study History.That's why his life is not recorded in quran.And we all know where he is now...
Nobody can rescue him from there,its eternal...

Now am not trying to praise muslims here,no,...lol

But its just that there are many good hearted people in them.They deserve to know Jesus and we have a duty to Pray for them that many of such may come to Christ.
am not promoting islam..
but just that what is our worth(by God's Grace in Christ) to criticize another person who behaves kindly to another human being.we must share the Love of God so that it reflects and makes transformations in their heart...
When people from other Faith comes to Christ,its a sight to see.
The sparkle of life in their eyes they exhibit,its a marvelous sight.
And their zeal is much better than us,when they realize who really Jesus is and the price He paid to redeem them whom they called 'infidel',...that how many died for Jesus throughout History.
God embrace them just like He did when Stephen was stoned to death.
we must Pray for muslims that they must come in large numbers before the deception begins(their mehndi rule-the antichrist rule takes over)...its our duty to reflect Christ when debating doesn't work with them.

islam is lunacy,i agree...but people following it are people like us,they need Jesus.Only thing bad in them is their doctrine that they follow...

God Bless..

It is so good that you bring out that many of these people are people like us, and there is good among them, but we also need to see that they promote evil. I listened to a man tell of his need to live in a fortress because he is in a Muslim country, there are killings done to their own people based on their religion for their honor comes before murder, and scripture points out that they want to do away with all of Christ. We want to love and help them, many of them use their religion to suggest killing us.

 

[BradC]

Some of you have become rather heated by this thread. The love of God has to make a stand for the gospel and we are called by grace to make a stand through the love of God. The gospel is to be preached when it is convenient and when it is not convenient. Randomly approach 4 or 5 Muslims, as you would any other, and in the love of God present to them the gospel. Tell them that that God loves them and the only way to the God of Abraham is through his only begotten Son Jesus Christ. Tell them that Jesus shed his blood for the remission of their sins and that they can only be fully justified, cleansed and forgiven of all sin and made righteous through the mercy of Jesus Christ. Tell them that what ever they are trusting in for their own salvation or acceptance with God must be forsaken or repented of and they must believe on the name of Jesus Christ for salvation. Be kind and gentle when you do it and post your experience and what you find their response to be and be honest about it.

 

[RedTent]

Some of you have become rather heated by this thread. The love of God has to make a stand for the gospel and we are called by grace to make a stand through the love of God. The gospel is to be preached when it is convenient and when it is not convenient. Randomly approach 4 or 5 Muslims, as you would any other, and in the love of God present to them the gospel. Tell them that that God loves them and the only way to the God of Abraham is through his only begotten Son Jesus Christ. Tell them that Jesus shed his blood for the remission of their sins and that they can only be fully justified, cleansed and forgiven of all sin and made righteous through the mercy of Jesus Christ. Tell them that what ever they are trusting in for their own salvation or acceptance with God must be forsaken or repented of and they must believe on the name of Jesus Christ for salvation. Be kind and gentle when you do it and post your experience and what you find their response to be and be honest about it.

A Christian man who works in Afghanistan spoke to us this morning about what it is like to work there. He lives in a fortress and if he leaves the fortress, he goes by armored car. There are missionaries there, but they must be under cover. Yet the underground Christian church is growing, in spite of that if one becomes a Christian they lose their family and their identity as an Afghanistan.

The reason it is growing is that people there see the Christian lifestyle as attractive and want to join it. That is the way the Christian church grew in Paul's day in Rome. It is the best way to evangelize. People say works do not save, Christ replaced the law, if we follow the Holy Spirit it means we must not learn how the law also guides us, and on and on. But we are all, every one of us, watched. When we are content and make the best of the life we are given, when we walk in the road God lays out, we are evangelizing. Our light shines over a wide area.

 

[Bowman]

How can u say that......what is this logic God of muslims or God of christians..God is one.people all around the world remember him in their heart whether they belong to any religion........Muslims worship the one God,the creator of this universe and human beings.
Who sent prophets in the world to guide human beings.

The only part of your statement that you got right is that there is One God.

Unfortunately, you, as a follower of islam, do NOT have that One true God.

If you deny The Son and The Trinity, then you worship Satan.

Only Trinitarian Christians worship the One True God.

This is just the way that it is...

 

[BradC]

muslims aren't animals.They are also human beings.
i have found good muslims who cared for me better than the so called christians who are selfish..
The prob is their doctrine,islam....that is devilish..
Do NOT Hate muslims,Love them and Pray for them that many may still turn to Christ.
They need Him and deserve Him better than many of us who don't even know the beginning steps of hospitality..
They do it,no am not talking about the radicals,speaking of which the western militia stands on top rank for killing innocents..

Pray for muslims,that many can see Jesus as God Lord Almighty...
debating doesn't work where Revelation must happen..

we must be thankful to Jesus that we came to Truth and must be Praying for many..even if we are to lay down our lives by the hands of those whom we Pray for(for their Salvation)..that's how Love of God is shown.

Simply speaking,stay away from islam,love the person who follows it and win them to Christ.

If I would have said the same thing in the OP 30 years ago, no one would have come against it because they would have been objective with the truth and would have the conviction that the gospel must be preached among all people in every nation. They would not have been conditioned in their subjective emotions to respond the way you and others have. Muslims are lost and have been blinded with a false religion by the god of this world. They live in a counterfeit light and the longer they are in it and submit to its precepts the greater the bondage and the more they become indoctrinated into that way of life. Look at Israel when they were in bondage in Egypt those 400 years and how difficult a time God had with them to persuade them (even supernaturally) that He wanted to lead them when they were in the wilderness. They rebelled and God was not pleased with them. Most of them wanted to go back to Egypt but were destroyed in the wilderness.

The Muslim is in terrible bondage and fear and that bondage of fear is the driving force behind their human goodness and striving to maintain the precepts of the Koran (Quran) for their family and how they function in society. They need the love of God desperately and that will only come through Jesus Christ and the cross. They must renounce their faith in the teachings of Mohammad and in Allah and put their truth in the living God through Jesus Christ. But in doing so they live in terrible fear because they risk being rejected, ostracised and even punished for violating the honor of their religion which has very deep roots. Don't get mad at me or anyone else that speaks in this manner because the Muslim is in great bondage and they are without the love of God and have no understanding of mercy or the grace of God because they reject Christ as the Savior.

 

[The_highwayman]

Some of you have become rather heated by this thread. The love of God has to make a stand for the gospel and we are called by grace to make a stand through the love of God. The gospel is to be preached when it is convenient and when it is not convenient. Randomly approach 4 or 5 Muslims, as you would any other, and in the love of God present to them the gospel. Tell them that that God loves them and the only way to the God of Abraham is through his only begotten Son Jesus Christ. Tell them that Jesus shed his blood for the remission of their sins and that they can only be fully justified, cleansed and forgiven of all sin and made righteous through the mercy of Jesus Christ. Tell them that what ever they are trusting in for their own salvation or acceptance with God must be forsaken or repented of and they must believe on the name of Jesus Christ for salvation. Be kind and gentle when you do it and post your experience and what you find their response to be and be honest about it.

As usual, you now contradict yourself...what guys like you miss is so simple it is sad.

Jesus only had harsh words for the religious crowd, not the sinner, some where along the line some very serious twisting and distorting of Doctrine took place.

Because of this many Christians believe this twisted interpretation of doctrine, gives them the right to separate and stack rank sin and sinners and be belligerent fools in what they believe is witnessing, by mobbing the lost at all times of the day and night, and essentially attack them like a rabid dog.

You will never, ever see a place in the 4 Gospels that Jesus segmented or had harsh words for the sinners, he only talked to religion that way.

I see lots of religion today, but I don't see Jesus and your first OP was religion not Jesus, so don't come back posting contradictions because the heat got to hot for you to handle.

 

[BradC]

As usual, you now contradict yourself...what guys like you miss is so simple it is sad.

Jesus only had harsh words for the religious crowd, not the sinner, some where along the line some very serious twisting and distorting of Doctrine took place.

Because of this many Christians believe this twisted interpretation of doctrine, gives them the right to separate and stack rank sin and sinners and be belligerent fools in what they believe is witnessing, by mobbing the lost at all times of the day and night, and essentially attack them like a rabid dog.

You will never, ever see a place in the 4 Gospels that Jesus segmented or had harsh words for the sinners, he only talked to religion that way.

I see lots of religion today, but I don't see Jesus and your first OP was religion not Jesus, so don't come back posting contradictions because the heat got to hot for you to handle.

You don't have a problem with me but you do have a problem with the cross. What happened on that cross is the only thing God has given to man so that even the Muslims have to go through it to get to God the Father. No one is exempt from the cross and to see Jesus and what He has done for man you have to look at the cross. Whatever has lead you to believe that Islam is not a religion whereby man finds his own way to God. You are protecting a religious group who are lost and live in darkness with no light from God. They need conviction from the Holy Spirit that they are serving a god that does not exist and has no love for them and has done nothing to free them from their bondage. The words of Mohammad have not the Spirit and have no life. Are you going to give them that light and love that comes through Christ and Him crucified or are you going to let them continue in their religion that does not know the living God?

 

[And]

The Beast (world mafia) of revelation is already attacking anyone that is not a catholic

the war on terrorism is a made up war against invisible foes
but soon the definition of who is one will be released
"Anyone not subjecting themselves to our religion must be killed"

war on anyone who refuses to join the beast
war on anyone not blaspheming God

nothing new under the sun

the dark ages return

the Beast runs governments, nations and military

Revelation says it will persue and try to kill all Bible beliving christians
Read your Bibles
be ready
here it comes.