Muslims / Quran video :)

[Jakob]

I agree. Be careful.
Thats like saying Santa Claus and Osama bin laden is equally evil, because they both have a beard.. Kind of.
Many Muslims have great hearts I believe

 

[Syed]

I am quoting one more verse from Noble Quran:

“(And mention) when the angels said, ‘O Mary, indeed God gives you the good news of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and in the Hereafter, and of those who are near to God.’* ‘He will speak to the people in the cradle, and in old age, and he will be of the righteous.’* She said, ‘My Lord, how can I have a son when no man has touched me.’* He said, ‘So (it will be,) for God creates what He wants.* When He decides something, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.* And He will teach him the Book and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel.* And (will make him) a messenger to the Children of Israel (saying), ‘Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord.* I make for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, then breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by the permission of God.* And I heal the blind and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by the permission of God.* And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses.* Surely, there is a sign for you in that, if you are believers.* And (I have come) confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before me, and to allow you some of what was forbidden to you.* And I have come to you with a proof from your Lord, so fear God and obey me.* Indeed, God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him.* This is the straight path.” (Quran 3:45-51)

 

[Jackson123]

JESUS peace be upon him. We Muslims love him and are eagerly waiting for the day he will come to this earth and establish his kingdom. KINGDOM OF PEACE AND SECURITY
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Syed, so you believe Jesus will establish his kingdom, Kingdom of peace and security.

That mean Jesus have a great authority, isn't it? In the entirely history of man kingdom, there is no peace and security.

Is that mean Jesus is more then man isn't it?

Oh ya I heard that Islam believe Jesus is Mary son and Mary is Moses sister. Is that true?

 

[didymos]

You have to be reciprocate love.. If you do not .. you are not following the will of God and scripture. God does not love arrogance and transgression.

If you know God that well, why aren't you a christian yet?

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life.
No one comes to the Father except through Me.

(John 14:6 /NIV)

 

[Syed]

My comment above is very clear. JESUS will establish kingdom of peace and security such that tiger and deer will drink water together without any fear. No one will need charity because of the abundance of wealth.

 

[Jackson123]

My comment above is very clear. JESUS will establish kingdom of peace and security such that tiger and deer will drink water together without any fear. No one will need charity because of the abundance of wealth.

Thank for your comment brother. In deed Jesus will establish Kingdom of peace.

If you don't mind, would you answered my second question, Is Quran said Mary the mother of Jesus is Moses sister?

 

[crossnote]

My comment above is very clear. JESUS will establish kingdom of peace and security such that tiger and deer will drink water together without any fear. No one will need charity because of the abundance of wealth.

I believe you have a different Jesus.

Did your Jesus die for our sins?
Did your Jesus rise bodily from the dead?
Is your Jesus God in the flesh?

2 Corinthians 11:3-4 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

 

[Syed]

The Qur’an mentions in Surah Maryam, Chapter 19 verses 27-28

"At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: ‘O Mary! Truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!

O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!’"
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In the Arabic construction of the sentence, sister is also considered as a descendant. Thus, when the people said to Mary, Ukhta Haroon*i.e. ‘sister of Aaron’ it actually means descendant of Aaron peace be upon him.

I included a verse above Mary and Jesus peace be upon him.

 

[crossnote]

The Qur’an mentions in Surah Maryam, Chapter 19 verses 27-28

"At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: ‘O Mary! Truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!

O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!’"
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In the Arabic construction of the sentence, sister is also considered as a descendant. Thus, when the people said to Mary, Ukhta Haroon*i.e. ‘sister of Aaron’ it actually means descendant of Aaron peace be upon him.

I included a verse above Mary and Jesus peace be upon him.

please answer my post #28. Also there is no proselytizing non christian groups here on CC. Answering questions addressed to you is the best and safest way to get your views across without getting banned.

 

[Syed]

please answer my post #28. Also there is no proselytizing non christian groups here on CC. Answering questions addressed to you is the best and safest way to get your views across without getting banned.

Signing out for today. You all have a wonderful day ahead. God bless you...

 

[crossnote]

Signing out for today. You all have a wonderful day ahead. God bless you...

See you tomorrow with the same questions, study up on your homework

 

[Jackson123]

The Qur’an mentions in Surah Maryam, Chapter 19 verses 27-28

"At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: ‘O Mary! Truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!

O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!’"
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In the Arabic construction of the sentence, sister is also considered as a descendant. Thus, when the people said to Mary, Ukhta Haroon*i.e. ‘sister of Aaron’ it actually means descendant of Aaron peace be upon him.

I included a verse above Mary and Jesus peace be upon him.

thank bro, to my knowledge, Jesus is descendent of David from the tribe of Judah,not the same tribe with Aaron.

this is genealogy of Jesus, according to the bible Jesus not descendant of Aaron.

Matthew 1 New International Version (NIV)[h=3]The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah[/h]1 This is the genealogy[SUP][a][/SUP] of Jesus the Messiah[SUP][b][/SUP] the son of David, the son of Abraham:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Abraham was the father of Isaac,
Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
Perez the father of Hezron,
Hezron the father of Ram,
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ram the father of Amminadab,
Amminadab the father of Nahshon,
Nahshon the father of Salmon,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
Obed the father of Jesse,
[SUP]6 [/SUP]and Jesse the father of King David.

David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife,
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
Abijah the father of Asa,
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
Jehoram the father of Uzziah,
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Uzziah the father of Jotham,
Jotham the father of Ahaz,
Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
Manasseh the father of Amon,
Amon the father of Josiah,
[SUP]11 [/SUP]and Josiah the father of Jeconiah[SUP][c][/SUP] and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.

[SUP]12 [/SUP]After the exile to Babylon:
Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Zerubbabel the father of Abihud,
Abihud the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Azor the father of Zadok,
Zadok the father of Akim,
Akim the father of Elihud,
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Elihud the father of Eleazar,
Eleazar the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah

 

[Bowman]

Just wanted people to see this, I guess this isn't a thread question more one of sharing.
well I could ask,
what do you think of the Quran and the mentioning of Jesus and Mary in it?

The Koran can only parrot its source material, The Holy Bible.

 

[Bowman]

Although, I think it left out a few important details, like the Korean denying that Jesus died on he cross.

Actually, the Koran does NOT deny that Jesus was crucified until death upon the Cross....it affirms it...and in more than one place!

It is only scripturally ignorant islam which has fabricated this lie....and then caused the rest of the world to believe it.

What an absolute atrocity of epic proportions...

 

[gotime]

Interesting the amount of force used by Islam extremists. If all God wanted to do is force then why does he need men?

Christian extremists have also used this method of force.

God does not need men to make others do things.

 

[Bowman]

So the Koran only speaks of Jesus (Isa) as Muhammed understood him.

According to the Koran, 'Muhammad' IS Jesus!

It doesn't speak of Him as the Son of God,

Yes, it does.

يأهل الكتب لا تغلوا في دينكم ولا تقولوا على الله

إلا الحق إنما المسيح عيسى ابن مريم رسول الله

وكلمته ألقيها إلى مريم وروح منه فءامنوا بالله

ورسله ولا تقولوا ثلثة انتهوا خيرا لكم إنما الله

إله وحد سبحنه أن يكون له ولد له ما في

السموت وما في الأرض وكفى بالله وكيلا​

Ya ahla alkitabi la taghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahi illa alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesa ibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi wakalimatuhu alqaha ila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo biAllahi warusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahoo khayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidun subhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee alssamawati wama fee al-ardi wakafa biAllahi wakeelan

4.171 You The Book's family, do not go beyond the limits in your faith, and they do not say on “allah” except The Truth (is) only The Messiah Jesus, Mary's son, “allah’s” messenger, and his Word, cast forth to her, Mary, and Spiritfrom him; so believe by “allah”, and his messengers, and they do not say "Three." Refrain (it is) certainly agreeable to you, only “allah” one god glory be to him, that He has certainly been his Son,truly His what is in the heavens and in the earth and He sufficed by “allah”, a witness.

 

[Bowman]

, as the One crucified, or the One risen.

Yes, it does...
Among numerous other things, sura 86 undeniably confirms to us these key points:

• That Jesus was crucified until death upon the Cross
• That Jesus was singularly resurrected
• That Jesus will return on a cloud to judge the dead at His Second Coming & gather His Elect

Summary:

86.1 And/by the clouds, and/by the Morning Star. (Announces Jesus’ Second Coming, on a cloud)

86.2 And who told you what the Morning Star is? (Asks the question: Who Told John of Jesus Second Coming?)

86.3 The star, the brightly shining. (Answers the question: Jesus, the Bright Morning Star, tells John)

86.4 Indeed every soul gathers on its Guardian. (Jesus, the Guardian, gathers His souls)

86.5 So, the human looks upon that which was created the inner man. (The reason for the gathering of the souls: Jesus is viewed upon the Cross)

86.6 The inner man was created out of water pouring forth at once. (Jesus’ Crucifixion & death upon the Cross)

86.7 He emerges from amidst the Crossand the grave. Or…86.7 He emerges from between the backboneand the ribs. (Jesus’ Crucifixion & Resurrection)

86.8 Truly Him above, He returned Him to the present state of existence after death, truly possessing power. (Jesus’ Singular Resurrection)

86.9 A dayTheMarriage will turn to its reality.(The First Resurrection)

86.10 So truly not His from strength and nor Savior. (The Second Death)

86.11 And/by the cloud, Lord of the return. (Jesus’ Second Coming on a cloud)

86.12 And/by the earth, Lord of the separation.(Jesus gathers His elect)

86.13 Truly His Word is Judgment.(Jesus is the Word which judges mankind)

86.14 And He is notwith thevain. (The fall of Babylon the Great)

86.15 Truly them, they devisean artful device. (Satan’s war)

86.16 And I devise an artful device. (Jesus’ war)

86.17 So respitethe disbelievers,respitethemgently for a little while.(Repent to Jesus)

 

[PennEd]

I am quoting two verses from Noble Quran..


"...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

"O you who believe! Be helpers of God -- as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, 'Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?' Said the disciples, 'We are God's helpers!' Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed" (61:14).

Christians love Muslims in Quran.

How bout these verses from the "noble quran"

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

• Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
• Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
• When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
• Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
• Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
• The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
• Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
• The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
• Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
  (22:19)
• Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
• The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
• Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
• Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
• Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

The Qur’an certainly proclaims that when the time is appropriate, Muslims must use force to convert the unbelievers to Islam. For the non-Muslims, the alternative to this is to pay the humiliating protection money (Jizya tax) or be killed (by beheading, of course). A militarily dominant Islam, without doubt, precludes the peaceful co-existence with the unbelievers if the Muslims have to abide strictly by the unalterable stipulations of the Qur’an

Do you SYED believe YOU should obey these verses?
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[Bowman]

you made Jesus peace be upon him a god and invented a terrible lie.

The authors of the Koran inform the reader that Jesus IS God.

If you deny this, then you deny your Koran....and, instead, follow the islamic LIE.


Simple fact...

Jesus peace be upon him never mentioned in Bible that he is God.

Yes, He did.

You don't even know your Koran...how then, are you going to prove a lame Islamic assertion from the Holy Bible....?

 

[Bowman]

Those who worship Jesus... blame is on them... JESUS peace be upon him is innocent of what they proclaim. On day of return and on day of resurrection he will reject these evildoers.

Yes..

Jesus was considered to be God, in the Koran...

ولما ضرب ابن مريم مثلا إذا قومك منه يصدون وقالوا ءألهتنا خير أم هو ما ضربوه لك إلا جدلابل هم قوم خصمون إن هو إلا عبد أنعمنا عليه وجعلنه مثلا لبني إسرءيل ولو نشاء لجعلنا منكم ملئكة في الأرض يخلفون وإنه لعلم للساعة فلا تمترن بها واتبعون هذا صرط مستقيم​

Walammaduriba ibnu maryama mathalan itha qawmuka minhu yasiddoona waqaloo aalihatuna khayrun am huwa madaraboohu laka illa jadalan bal hum qawmun khasimoona in huwa illa AAabdun anAAamna AAalayhi wajaAAalnahu mathalan libanee isra-eela walaw nashao lajaAAalna minkum mala-ikatan fee al-ardi yakhlufoona wa-innahu laAAilmun lilssaAAati fala tamtarunna biha waittabiAAooni hathasiratun mustaqeemun

And only Mary's Son, held up (as) a sign on your nation,from Himthey start raising clamor. And they said: "Are our gods better or He?” That they set Him forth to you except disputation, but they,a nation(of) contentious people. Indeed He except a slave; we have bestowed blessings on Him,and we made Him a sign to Israel’s sons. And if we will, truly we made from your angels upon the earth,they succeed. And truly He (has)knowledge to The Resurrection,so have no doubt on account of it, and follow Me, this exact right path. (43.57 – 61)