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It is true that those that practise fornications will be called fornicators as those that commit adultery will be called adulterers, so then those that practise wickedness shall be known by their wickedness, otherwise how can sinners say they have repented from their sins in the sight and ears of others? One cannot cease to be a hypocrit unless declared what the hypocrisey is to stop being double-minded about.
"Stiff neck" usually refers to the religious pride of the person that is exalting himself or herself over others, and are bent on continuing out of rebellion, but I have not see God calling anyone a stiff necked.
Deuteronomy 31:27For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death?
Moses said that above in verses 25-27. The Lord wasn't going to die.
2 Chronicles 36:13And he also rebelled against king Nebuchadnezzar, who had made him swear by God: but he stiffened his neck, and hardened his heart from turning unto the LORD God of Israel.
This is referring to what the rebellious did.
Psalm 75:5Lift not up your horn on high: speak not with a stiff neck.
This is a warning to not become prideful in exalting yourself over others.
Jeremiah 17:23But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction.
Again, this is referring to what the rebellious were doing.
"Hard headed" term was not found in the King James Bible search engine at Bible Gateway.
The point of the OP is that "getting through a person's thick skull" is not your job for God causes the increase, and by trying to get through a believer's thick skull is tempting one to sin by looking down on him as if he is stupid but by doing so, void faith in Him as He is the One doing the work and thereby voiding that love to correct others by belittling them as if God is unable to save or to correct that person that has been bought as His.
Even broad based ethnic prejudices are frowned upon as if God would not deal with them.
Titus 1:10For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: 11Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. 12One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. 13This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
We are called to love one another,
1 John 4:19We love him, because he first loved us. 20If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 21And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
...and that is how we are known as His by others.
1 John 3:10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 11For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
Have you ever heard a name calling done in love?
And yet how we live should reflect by His grace in how we minister.
Galatians 3:14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith..........26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Hebrews 12:1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. 4Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. 5And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. 9Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? 10For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. 11Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
"Stiff neck" usually refers to the religious pride of the person that is exalting himself or herself over others, and are bent on continuing out of rebellion, but I have not see God calling anyone a stiff necked.
Deuteronomy 31:27For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death?
Moses said that above in verses 25-27. The Lord wasn't going to die.
2 Chronicles 36:13And he also rebelled against king Nebuchadnezzar, who had made him swear by God: but he stiffened his neck, and hardened his heart from turning unto the LORD God of Israel.
This is referring to what the rebellious did.
Psalm 75:5Lift not up your horn on high: speak not with a stiff neck.
This is a warning to not become prideful in exalting yourself over others.
Jeremiah 17:23But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction.
Again, this is referring to what the rebellious were doing.
"Hard headed" term was not found in the King James Bible search engine at Bible Gateway.
The point of the OP is that "getting through a person's thick skull" is not your job for God causes the increase, and by trying to get through a believer's thick skull is tempting one to sin by looking down on him as if he is stupid but by doing so, void faith in Him as He is the One doing the work and thereby voiding that love to correct others by belittling them as if God is unable to save or to correct that person that has been bought as His.
Even broad based ethnic prejudices are frowned upon as if God would not deal with them.
Titus 1:10For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: 11Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. 12One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. 13This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
We are called to love one another,
1 John 4:19We love him, because he first loved us. 20If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 21And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
...and that is how we are known as His by others.
1 John 3:10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 11For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
Have you ever heard a name calling done in love?
And yet how we live should reflect by His grace in how we minister.
Galatians 3:14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith..........26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Hebrews 12:1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. 4Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. 5And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. 9Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? 10For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. 11Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
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I have a problem with the fact that I have seen a lot of good post Here in this place, but the one person I always see make long winded correction and always offending people is you.
Do you think your a prophet?
Or do you neglect to read where it says do not judge.
You don't know who you are talking to on here, for all you know it could be a new believer you just made stumbble.
You cause confusion and that is not from God.
I come here to share Jesus, not argueing.
What kind of face of God are you showing the world by argueing about the word.
If you ask you will find that most people think Christians are fake and they can not agree on anything!
Too many denominations!
You think your doing God some kind of service but I really dought God is enjoying what He is seeing and Hearing!
Do you think God would approve of His Children always argueing and fighting over what He said?
No!
In Fact, being A mother I would seperate them and send them to thier rooms until they could be nice to eachother!
Do you think your a prophet?
Or do you neglect to read where it says do not judge.
You don't know who you are talking to on here, for all you know it could be a new believer you just made stumbble.
You cause confusion and that is not from God.
I come here to share Jesus, not argueing.
What kind of face of God are you showing the world by argueing about the word.
If you ask you will find that most people think Christians are fake and they can not agree on anything!
Too many denominations!
You think your doing God some kind of service but I really dought God is enjoying what He is seeing and Hearing!
Do you think God would approve of His Children always argueing and fighting over what He said?
No!
In Fact, being A mother I would seperate them and send them to thier rooms until they could be nice to eachother!
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What would any baby christian think when believers say that there is something wrong with the churches... being so many and yet having little effect?
What would any baby believer think when they speak of asking God for the Spirit of Truth as if believers do not have Him already?
Jesus gave long sermons: the Sermon on the Mount is an example.
No man can come to the Son unless it is the Father that draws Him. The Spirit in us convicts others by the Word spoken. They cannot believe unless they hear the Gospel of grace. Therefore a revival cannot happened until they get back to the Word.
So when extra teachings that have been accepted for years and have become tradition and practises, but not found as taught from the beginning when we had received the Good News, then long winded posting is necessary to address point by point, reproving the error so that pause may be given to those that hear Him as they take it to Jesus in prayer for wisdom as well as discernment.
Just as surely God addresses seven churches in Revelation to examine themselves, and being the latter days when it is prophesied that many shall fall away from the faith... such self examination in the faith is more urgent, now then ever. The wake up call needs to be given.
Judgment will fall on the House of God at His appearing when it is also written that only a few will find the faith as many will have fallen away from Him because they had broaden the Way given in approaching God the Father by adding unto Jesus; the only Way To God the Father. As Jesus taught to correct a brother or sister in a trespass, thus not ignoring it, He also taught excommunication by which wayward believers will be left behind at the rapture event for not being ready.
By His grace, I have confidence that Jesus shall finish His work even in those left behind, but there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth by which the love of God towards the wayward does lead me to forewarn, hoping that God may peradventure give them knowledge unto repentance and return to their first love, free from all the deceitful doctrines of man, seducing spirits, and presumptuous sins seeking dominion over them as there are many snares running amok in the churches of the saints.
Still it is on Him to cause the increase. He is to minister as He enables me to serve Him...until He takes me Home which is also by His grace.
What would any baby believer think when they speak of asking God for the Spirit of Truth as if believers do not have Him already?
Jesus gave long sermons: the Sermon on the Mount is an example.
No man can come to the Son unless it is the Father that draws Him. The Spirit in us convicts others by the Word spoken. They cannot believe unless they hear the Gospel of grace. Therefore a revival cannot happened until they get back to the Word.
So when extra teachings that have been accepted for years and have become tradition and practises, but not found as taught from the beginning when we had received the Good News, then long winded posting is necessary to address point by point, reproving the error so that pause may be given to those that hear Him as they take it to Jesus in prayer for wisdom as well as discernment.
Just as surely God addresses seven churches in Revelation to examine themselves, and being the latter days when it is prophesied that many shall fall away from the faith... such self examination in the faith is more urgent, now then ever. The wake up call needs to be given.
Judgment will fall on the House of God at His appearing when it is also written that only a few will find the faith as many will have fallen away from Him because they had broaden the Way given in approaching God the Father by adding unto Jesus; the only Way To God the Father. As Jesus taught to correct a brother or sister in a trespass, thus not ignoring it, He also taught excommunication by which wayward believers will be left behind at the rapture event for not being ready.
By His grace, I have confidence that Jesus shall finish His work even in those left behind, but there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth by which the love of God towards the wayward does lead me to forewarn, hoping that God may peradventure give them knowledge unto repentance and return to their first love, free from all the deceitful doctrines of man, seducing spirits, and presumptuous sins seeking dominion over them as there are many snares running amok in the churches of the saints.
Still it is on Him to cause the increase. He is to minister as He enables me to serve Him...until He takes me Home which is also by His grace.
Peace be to you
They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.
Lift up thine eyes unto the high places, and see where thou hast not been lien with. In the ways hast thou sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms and with thy wickedness.
Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a whore's forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.
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Saying unto Aaron, Make us gods to go before us: for as for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.
Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness?Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as he had appointed, speaking unto Moses, that he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen.
Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Jesus into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David;Who found favour before God, and desired to find a tabernacle for the God of Jacob.
But Solomon built him an house.
Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest? Hath not my hand made all these things?
Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
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For they are impudent children and stiffhearted. I do send thee unto them; and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD.
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For I know how stubborn and obstinate you are.Your necks are as unbending as iron.Your heads are as hard as bronze.
Isaiah 48:3-5
May god givith the increase
Love a friend in God
They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.
Lift up thine eyes unto the high places, and see where thou hast not been lien with. In the ways hast thou sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms and with thy wickedness.
Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a whore's forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.
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Saying unto Aaron, Make us gods to go before us: for as for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.
Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness?Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as he had appointed, speaking unto Moses, that he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen.
Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Jesus into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David;Who found favour before God, and desired to find a tabernacle for the God of Jacob.
But Solomon built him an house.
Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest? Hath not my hand made all these things?
Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
eziek
For they are impudent children and stiffhearted. I do send thee unto them; and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD.
New (NLt)
For I know how stubborn and obstinate you are.Your necks are as unbending as iron.Your heads are as hard as bronze.
Isaiah 48:3-5
May god givith the increase
Love a friend in God
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Thanks for providing the quote even though you forgot to give the scripture reference. Acts 7:51-56
Somehow the search engine did not search the term by which you had it seperated in your original post, but together, it has found it now.
Stephen is speaking here. Although again, stiffnecked refers to the prideful in rebellion, God can judge in that manner through Stephen so that they may repent or set as an example of what others should not follow after in seeking a relationship with God.
Ezekiel 2:5 Not quite the same as stiffnecked, but close. God can judge the condition of man of what they purposefully do in rebellion.
King James Bible has it in written:
Isaiah 48:3I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass. 4Because I knew that thou art obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass; 5I have even from the beginning declared it to thee; before it came to pass I shewed it thee: lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them.
Brow is usually aquainted with the forehead in a man's contenance. If one exalted himself over another continuously, I can only imagine the look of lofty eyes and an alienating contenance.
Again, the description of the wicked will apply to the wicked, but a man's intelligence is not the standard to judge another fellow believer by in belittling him or her.
Thank you for sharing, but do I need to point out that to love a friend in God is to not call him or her "jerkface"? Indeed, it is written to do unto others what you would have them do unto you.
Baruch, I don't mind being called an idiot if I am an idiot. In fact I welcome such correction lol. Yet at times you have claimed I don't serve Jesus Christ because I don't agree with your views. I find that a little more offensive than being called an idiot. That should also be avoided IMO. Try and keep the discussions objective without getting personally, I fall short in that too sometimes and for that I am sorry. I apologise wherever I offend if I offend. But I am concerned for you Baruch. You believe in OSAS, the pre-trib rapture, and don't believe in the Nicene creed, and rejection of subsequent baptism of the Spirit, spiritual gifts and power, as well as you not seeming to hold to any particular denomination. There's 6 good reasons or warning signs there why I don't really listen to what you say. I've come across plenty of "lone-rangers" on the internet, self-professed correctors of the body of Christ, part of the "remnant" they say, they believe they are right and everyone else is wrong. And most of them have a certain degree of kookiness about them. One I met once was a wife beater, even though he could quote the bible inside out, others may have perversions far worse. I'm very wary of people carrying false doctrines and "loner rangers" as it were. I hope you understand, nothing personal, but that's how I see it.
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