NATIONAL ISRAEL ARE IMPOSTERS AND NOT JEWS?

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Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.......Im curious how does Allah deal with sins, I had a quick google and it says he forgives them, but on what basis? He just does, or is there a reason why, thanks, Tim
Hi Timofree

Concerning Allah's forgiveness.

Allah says: “Say: O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” [Sûrah al-Zumar: 53]

Allah forgives any sin if you repent. Even if you do not repent in time as long as the sin is not shirk,he may forgive you anyway depending on the life you have led. It is up to Allah in the end, if he really loves you and wants you to be with him he will move mountains for you to enter paradise.

We cannot not enter paradise no matter what we do without the grace of God.
 
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Do Jewish people worship God ?

What God do Jewish people believe in ?

[video=youtube;T_5X1nM5VDw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_5X1nM5VDw[/video]
 
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#43
It has recently been said that the Jews as we think we know them, are not really Jews at all. I want you to think about this.

It is also said by these very ones still, that the Old Testament prophecies bear absolutely no relevance to us of today. This is to be proved otherwise by you yourselves as witnesses to what i will quote of which God IS declaring.
Indeed. Their doctrine drives them to reject the stunning fulfillment of prophecy that scripture suggests would let even "the heathen" know His is Lord.

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]KJV Ezekiel 36:19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them. 20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These [are] the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land. 21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went. 22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not [this] for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. 23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I [am] the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. 24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. 25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do [them]. 28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.[/FONT]

And in spite of those great men of God of the reformation, who anticipated the restoration of Jews to Israel, centuries before that restoration ever began:
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“Hence I observe these things, first that the restauration of the Jewish nation so much spoken of by the old Prophets respects not the few Jews who were converted in the Apostles days, but the dispersed nation of the unbelieving Jews to be converted in the end when the fullness of the Gentiles shall enter, that is when the Gospel (upon the fall of Babylon) shall begin to be preached to all nations. Secondly that the prophecies of Isaiah described above by being here cited by the Apostle is limited to respect the time of the future conversion and restitution of the Jewish Nation, and thirdly that the humour which has long reigned among the Christians of boasting our selves against the Jews, and insulting over them for their not believing, is reprehended by the Apostle for high –mindedness and self-conceipt, and much more is our using them despightfully, Pharisaicall and impious”
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Thomas Brightman
(1562-1607): "The restoring of the Jewes and their callinge to the faith of Christ after the utter overthrow of their three enemies is set forth in livelie colours." "Shall they return to Jerusalem again?" "There is nothing more certain: the prophets do everywhere confirm it and beat upon it."
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John Owen 1616-1683: "The Jews shall be gathered from all parts of the earth where they are scattered, and brought home into their homeland."
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In 1641 Oliver Cromwell stated, "And it may be, as some think, God will bring the Jews home to their station, 'from all the isles of the sea,' and answer their expectations 'as from the depths of the sea.'
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In 1649 the English Puritans, Ebenezer and Joanna Cartwright, living in Amsterdam, petitioned the British Government to lift the ban on Jews settling in England, and to assist them to move to Palestine:
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Then later on (from Jewish History.org) in 1818 John Adams (1735-1826) Statesman and President. In a letter to Mordecai Manuel Noah, he wrote: "I wish your nation may be admitted to all the privileges of citizens in every country of the world." Regarding the re-establishment of a Jewish state, he wrote in the same year: "I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation."
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Jesus pbuh stated;

I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me

How can the Jews be the chosen people when to this day they have rejected the teachings of Jesus pbuh. ?
So you've been deceived into believing that you don't reject Jesus' teachings?

This is the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel:
THE LAMB SLAIN


Matthew 26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.


Matthew 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

Matthew 20:17
And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them, 18 Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death, 19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.


After it was fulfilled:


Luke 24:44
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me. 45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, 46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things.


A convenant is a contract. If one side of the contract is broken then the contract is no longer binding on the other party.

The convenant from God is now with the believers not Israel. It has move on from the house of Israel to the believers of the world. Israel returning back to the promised land and peace broken in that area is a sign that all nations are failing in their obligations to God and no one deserves the promise land.
 
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Why the inconsistency ?

I use the Quran as the template. If it is in the Quran .........
The heavily abrogated STAND-ALONE 23-year record of a SINGLE, 7th century SW Arabian desert dwelling illiterate.

........ and the bible then those verses of the bible are pure.
The 1600 year record of the one true God YHWH to mankind, as revealed through ALL of His prophets and witnesses, that His people have followed through two covenants, for 3500 years.

Example

The Quran speaks of Ishmael the baby leaving with Hagar and going to Paran by the will of God.
And excellent example! Of what can only be called Islamic "tradition" because it was all penned in the 7th to 10th centuries AD, without reference to any actual historical record that precedes the 5th century AD.

Yet Islamic so-called "tradition" masquerades as a 4500 year pre-Muhammad historical record. Let alone that there is not a shred of EVIDENCE that suggests that Mecca ever existed before pagan immigrants from Yemen settled the area in about the 4th century AD, and built their kaaba in the early 5th century AD for pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship, and veneration of 360 idols. This while other ancient Arabian towns are very well attested in the historical and archaeological records of Arabia.
THE HISTORY OF MECCA

And of course you believe Paran to have been where Mecca is, because Hagar and Ishmael are supposed to have gotten water from the well of Zamzam (that Muhammad's grandfather Abdel Mutaleb dug to establish a Hajj around the Arabian jinn-devil religion and the two idols he placed on al-Safa and al-Marwah).
HAJJ & UMRAH

Here is a sample Islamic site on the matter:
"Abraham took Hagar and her son, Ishmael to a place near the Kabah; he left them under a tree at the site of Zamzam. No one lived in Makkah back then, yet Abraham made them sit there, leaving them with some dates, and a small water-skin. Thereafter he set out towards home."


OK now let's look at a map:

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Muslims recognize Abraham lived in Hebron, where so-called "Palestinians" (Israeli Muslims) control, and continue to desecrate Abraham's grave to this day.

Ishmael lived sometime around 1800 BC. Prior to Ishmael, by 2,000 BC, Arabia had been reduced to a desertified, unexplored, untraveled, uncharted barren desert wasteland, over 500 years before camel transport, or even a road, were ever established. History tells us that overland travel along the Red Sea in Arabia was not established until around the 6th to 8th century BC. Even Medina wasn't established until around the 6th century BC. Prior to that time spices from Yemen moved to the north by ship. A Saudi site further informs us that even the advent of camel caravan transport, didn't occur until around 1,000 to 1,100 BC.

So why don't you explain to us how Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael, wandered across 1400 kilometers of uncharted untraveled desert wasteland from Hebron, to arrive at one of the driest places that even Arabia has to offer - dropped Hagar and Ishmael off and then wandered the 1400 kilometers back to his WIFE Sarah in Hebron - and all about 2400 years before the historical record tells us Mecca ever existed. What did they eat? What did they drink?

The bible speaks of 17 year old boy being exiled by the will of Sarah. Unfortunately the scribes that inserted theses verses did not clean up the actual exile which speaks of a child or boy.

Have a look at this nice image from the biblical encyclopedia Genesis 21 Bible Pictures: Hagar and Ishmael leave Abram

Scribes even today are trying to change the verses to portray a young adult being exiled but the truth is evident they refer to a child.
You blaspheme the perfectly reasonable historical account found in scripture, that is ever increasingly supported by archaeology, and perfectly within the bounds of geography, for the preposterous fables and pure fiction of Islamic so-called "tradition" that was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th centuries AD by a bunch of semi-literate SW Arabian desert dwellers. Shame on you.
 
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Do Jewish people worship God ?

What God do Jewish people believe in ?

[video=youtube;T_5X1nM5VDw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_5X1nM5VDw[/video]
As your video aptly illustrates, the one true God of the scriptures YHWH, as He revealed Himself to His people through the Old Testament scriptures:

Psa 149:3 Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp. 4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
Psa 150:4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
Psa 66:1 [[To the chief Musician, A Song [or] Psalm.]] Make a joyful noise unto God, all ye lands:
Psa 81:1 [[To the chief Musician upon Gittith, [A Psalm] of Asaph.]] Sing aloud unto God our strength: make a joyful noise unto the God of Jacob.
Psa 95:1 O come, let us sing unto the LORD: let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation.
Psa 95:2 Let us come before his presence with thanksgiving, and make a joyful noise unto him with psalms.
Psa 98:4 Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all the earth: make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise.
Psa 98:6 With trumpets and sound of cornet make a joyful noise before the LORD, the King.
Psa 100:1 [[A Psalm of praise.]] Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all ye lands.

Our Rock, the Son of God, was the source of salvation of old covenant saints too. They just didn't realize it.

Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
 
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