Neat discovery about 12,000

[VCO]

I was going to make the same point about Harold Camping, bible numerology can lead to pretty much any conclusion you want...sometimes numbers are just numbers , no special meaning


Sorry but 1 comment about your pic of Bible with Flag .... how do you reconcile the separation of church and state in the constitution, technically American government should be no respecter of any particular religion.

Because separation of Church and State is being applied with the Demoncrats SLANT on what it means. Years ago when that went to the Supreme Court, our Christian Politicians and Lawyers, flat blew it when the Democrats backed by the ACLU read the part of a Thomas Jefferson Letter, stating that there was an implied separation between Church and State written into the Constitution. However, a few years ago shortly, before that Hurricane, did severe damage to his Church building, the late Dr. D. James Kennedy of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., delivered a very interesting Sermon on TV. In it he stated that after the loss in the U.S. Supreme Court, those Christian Politicians and Lawyers, start digging some more into letters by Thomas Jefferson, and found Thomas Jefferson did define what he meant by that implied barrier, and therefore are itching for the right case and opportunity to take it back to the U.S. Supreme Court. I will try my best to remember what Dr. Kennedy read from that Thomas Jefferson letter, which I did write for a hard copy of that sermon, but because of that Hurricane, they answered, they would try to find the records of that sermon, but were currently too busy cleaning up from the Storm, to look for it at that time. They never got back to me, so that may mean some sermon archives were lost. Here to the best of my memory is what that particular letter by Thomas Jefferson said, that was found after we lost the case in the U.S. Supreme Court:

"While it is obvious that there is written into the Constitution an implied separation of Church and State, it is equally obvious that it is a one-way barrier forbidding the Government from becoming involved in the running of Churches, while protecting the rights of Christians to be involved in the running of Government."

YES INDEED, we blew it by not searching more thoroughly before that case ever went to trial in the U.S. Supreme Court. It was intended to be ONLY a ONE-WAY BARRIER, yet the Democrats backed by the ACLU, got the U.S. Supreme Court to declare it a TWO-WAY BARRIER.

 

[doseofreality]

Because separation of Church and State is being applied with the Demoncrats SLANT on what it means. Years ago when that went to the Supreme Court, our Christian Politicians and Lawyers, flat blew it when the Democrats backed by the ACLU read the part of a Thomas Jefferson Letter, stating that there was an implied separation between Church and State written into the Constitution. However, a few years ago shortly, before that Hurricane, did severe damage to his Church building, the late Dr. D. James Kennedy of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., delivered a very interesting Sermon on TV. In it he stated that after the loss in the U.S. Supreme Court, those Christian Politicians and Lawyers, start digging some more into letters by Thomas Jefferson, and found Thomas Jefferson did define what he meant by that implied barrier, and therefore are itching for the right case and opportunity to take it back to the U.S. Supreme Court. I will try my best to remember what Dr. Kennedy read from that Thomas Jefferson letter, which I did write for a hard copy of that sermon, but because of that Hurricane, they answered, they would try to find the records of that sermon, but were currently too busy cleaning up from the Storm, to look for it at that time. They never got back to me, so that may mean some sermon archives were lost. Here to the best of my memory is what that particular letter by Thomas Jefferson said, that was found after we lost the case in the U.S. Supreme Court:

"While it is obvious that there is written into the Constitution an implied separation of Church and State, it is equally obvious that it is a one-way barrier forbidding the Government from becoming involved in the running of Churches, while protecting the rights of Christians to be involved in the running of Government."

YES INDEED, we blew it by not searching more thoroughly before that case ever went to trial in the U.S. Supreme Court. It was intended to be ONLY a ONE-WAY BARRIER, yet the Democrats backed by the ACLU, got the U.S. Supreme Court to declare it a TWO-WAY BARRIER.

I think you miss the point, Im fine with ONE-WAY-BARRIER but as long as it protects the rights of christians, muslims, hindus, and atheists equally to be involved in running government. The government should not favor or endorse one religion over another . Government should not be involved in running churches and the no ONE religion should be involved in running the government.

 

[2Thewaters]

All churches in politics are false religions.

Jesus never went into politics and said his disciples would not either.
those who follow christ are christians.

 

[VCO]

I think you miss the point, Im fine with ONE-WAY-BARRIER but as long as it protects the rights of christians, muslims, hindus, and atheists equally to be involved in running government. The government should not favor or endorse one religion over another . Government should not be involved in running churches and the no ONE religion should be involved in running the government.

It is does protect religious rights equally, but UNFORTUNATELY The Democrats are zealously trying to enforce it as a TWO WAY BARRIER, such as when they forced that Judge to remove the statue of the Ten Commandments from in front of His Court Room that HE PAID FOR PERSONALLY. And the PURE Hypocrisy of the Democrats saying that violates the Separation of Church and State, applying it as a TWO-WAY BARRIER, is the U.S. Supreme Court building itself, which has over the East Entrance a statue of Moses holding the Ten Commandments:

 

[VCO]

All churches in politics are false religions.

Jesus never went into politics and said his disciples would not either.
those who follow christ are christians.

Now lets see if that statement HOLDS ANY WATER AT ALL:

Matthew 22:17-21 (HCSB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Tell us, therefore, what You think. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar or not?”
[SUP]18 [/SUP] But perceiving their malice, Jesus said, “Why are you testing Me, hypocrites?
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Show Me the coin used for the tax.” So they brought Him a denarius.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] “Whose image and inscription is this?” He asked them.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] “Caesar’s,” they said to Him. Then He said to them, “Therefore give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

Romans 13:1-7 (HCSB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Everyone must submit to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist are instituted by God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] So then, the one who resists the authority is opposing God’s command, and those who oppose it will bring judgment on themselves.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have its approval.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For government is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, because it does not carry the sword for no reason. For government is God’s servant, an avenger that brings wrath on the one who does wrong.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Therefore, you must submit, not only because of wrath, but also because of your conscience.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] And for this reason you pay taxes, since the ⌊authorities⌋ are God’s public servants, continually attending to these tasks.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] Pay your obligations to everyone: taxes to those you owe taxes, tolls to those you owe tolls, respect to those you owe respect, and honor to those you owe honor.


AHHH, someone cut the entire bottom out of your bucket. You will not be putting out any fires with that bucket.

 

[VCO]

All churches in politics are false religions.

Jesus never went into politics and said his disciples would not either.
those who follow christ are christians.

And giving to Caesar that which is Caesar includes a Christian's responsibility to VOTE.

As long as You do not vote for the wicked witch of the East.