New Muslim
- Thread starter GodTruth
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Brother GodIsSalvation.
It digressing a bit just to give you a clue that brother Rivera no a liar. He wrote 5 or or 6 Item that not happen then and happen 20 or 30 Years after he wrote.
Of Course if I am Vatican I will disprove the Identity of brother Rivera. It is normal brother.
But Why He know Vatican planning 20 or 30 years ahead? Isn't a clue that he tell the truth?
I encourage you to make a research about Jesuit brother. I will post Jesuit oath from US congress 1913 how Jesuit work.
It is just a clue to support that the information about Islam is create by Vatican.
Use the track record from what Brother Rivera know 30 year ahead of Vatican plan, I hope you believe that what he talking about Islam is the truth. He live 1300 year after Islam founded but the information he get is from the document that wrote by Vatican that had been exist 300 years before muslim
This is Jesuit Oath.
About 455,000 results (0.31 seconds)
[h=2]Search Results[/h]
- [h=3]EIPS - The Jesuit Oath Exposed[/h]www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=jesuit
Ian Paisley
Apr 5, 2000 - [The following is the text of the Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction as recorded in the Journals of the 62nd Congress, 3rd Session, of the United ...
- [h=3]The Jesuit, Illuminati, Knights of Columbus and Masonic Oaths[/h]www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesuits.htm
Bible Believers' Church
The Jesuits are a Military Religious Order of the Roman Catholic Church; Masonic and other Oaths.
[FONT=Trebuchet MS,Arial,Helvetica]The Jesuit Oath Exposed
[HR][/HR]"Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated."
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Professor Arthur Noble[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica][/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica][The following is the text of the Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction as recorded in the Journals of the 62nd Congress, 3rd Session, of the United States Congressional Record (House Calendar No. 397, Report No. 1523, 15 February, 1913, pp. 3215-3216), from which it was subsequently torn out. The Oath is also quoted by Charles Didier in his book Subterranean Rome (New York, 1843), translated from the French original. Dr. Alberto Rivera, who escaped from the Jesuit Order in 1967, confirms that the induction ceremony and the text of the Jesuit Oath which he took were identical to what we have cited below. – A. N.][/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]When a Jesuit of the minor rank is to be elevated to command, he is conducted into the Chapel of the Convent of the Order, where there are only three others present, the principal or Superior standing in front of the altar. On either side stands a monk, one of whom holds a banner of yellow and white, which are the Papal colours, and the other a black banner with a dagger and red cross above a skull and crossbones, with the word INRI, and below them the words IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIUS. The meaning of which is: It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical Kings, Governments, or Rulers.
Upon the floor is a red cross at which the postulant or candidate kneels. The Superior hands him a small black crucifix, which he takes in his left hand and presses to his heart, and the Superior at the same time presents to him a dagger, which he grasps by the blade and holds the point against his heart, the Superior still holding it by the hilt, and thus addresses the postulant:
(The Superior speaks
My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope. You have been taught to plant insidiously the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and to incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace; to take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means. You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer, among the schools and universities, in parliaments and legislatures, and the judiciaries and councils of state, and to be all things to all men, for the Pope's sake, whose servants we are unto death. You have received all your instructions heretofore as a novice, a neophyte, and have served as co-adjurer, confessor and priest, but you have not yet been invested with all that is necessary to command in the Army of Loyola in the service of the Pope. You must serve the proper time as the instrument and executioner as directed by your superiors; for none can command here who has not consecrated his labours with the blood of the heretic; for "without the shedding of blood no man can be saved". Therefore, to fit yourself for your work and make your own salvation sure, you will, in addition to your former oath of obedience to your order and allegiance to the Pope, repeat after me:
(Text of the Oath
I_______________ , now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of Heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness, the Pope, is Christ's Vice-Regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by the virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given to His Holiness by my Saviour, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical Kings, Princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments, and they may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the utmost of my power I will defend this doctrine and His Holiness's right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and the now pretended authority and Churches of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the continent of America and elsewhere and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or State, named Protestant or Liberal, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates or officers. I do further declare the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same. I do further declare that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness's agents, in any place where I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland or America, or in any other kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. I do further promise and declare that, notwithstanding, I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propagation of the Mother Church's interest; to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they entrust me, and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstances whatever; but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge, or discovered unto me by you, my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order. I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ. That I will go to any part of the world whithersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to the centres of civilisation of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things, whatsoever is communicated to me. I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex nor condition, and that will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honour, rank, dignity or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus. In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false, or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly be opened and sulphur burned therein with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth, and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever. That I will in voting always vote for a Knight of Columbus in preference to a Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party so to do; that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of Mother Church and vote accordingly. That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made of the inner movements of the heretics. That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed, or I am commanded to defend the Church either as an individual or with the militia of the Pope. All of which I,_______________, do swear by the blessed Trinity and blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to perform and on part to keep this my oath. In testimony hereof, I take this most holy and blessed sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal in the face of this holy sacrament.
(He receives the wafer from the Superior and writes his name with the point of his dagger dipped in his own blood taken from over his heart.)
(Superior speaks
You will now rise to your feet and I will instruct you in the Catechism necessary to make yourself known to any member of the Society of Jesus belonging to this rank. In the first place, you, as a Brother Jesuit, will with another mutually make the ordinary sign of the cross as any ordinary Roman Catholic would; then one crosses his wrists, the palms of his hands open, and the other in answer crosses his feet, one above the other; the first points with forefinger of the right hand to the centre of the palm of the left, the other with the forefinger of the left hand points to the centre of the palm of the right; the first then with his right hand makes a circle around his head, touching it; the other then with the forefinger of his left hand touches the left side of his body just below his heart; the
[/FONT]
[/FONT]
@jag no one hates our brothers. Our enemy is the evil non-human thigns that kill our brothers, for example islam.
@jackson. Eh from what I seen on Rivera I am not convinced of him, most his theories have actually not come to pass. I will have to investigate the holocaust gold theory though because if true this would be his first theory that is true, though I am still skeptical of it, but we shall see.
As for the Jesuits, I have seen much conspiracy about their order indeed, and none of it holds water. Lol I have read their real oath and I have read the fake oath as well. To be honest, I have a fairly high opinion of the Jesuits. I believe most the misinformation put out about their prestigous order is by pagan infiltrators.
@jackson. Eh from what I seen on Rivera I am not convinced of him, most his theories have actually not come to pass. I will have to investigate the holocaust gold theory though because if true this would be his first theory that is true, though I am still skeptical of it, but we shall see.
As for the Jesuits, I have seen much conspiracy about their order indeed, and none of it holds water. Lol I have read their real oath and I have read the fake oath as well. To be honest, I have a fairly high opinion of the Jesuits. I believe most the misinformation put out about their prestigous order is by pagan infiltrators.
T
Oh, curses! Why did I derail this thread via my reply to Jackson's initial anti-catholic post! May me and my descendants perish by the sword!!!!! May me and my descendant's future wives and children be taken as booty!!! May I eat dirt all the days of my life!!!
Don't take Alberto Rivera's words to heart! This man is associated with a comic book writer named Jack Chick!
Don't take these two clowns seriously! Everything they say about us Catholics is madness, everything, from Catholics having a hidden, robotic loyalty to the Vatican state from the names of every protestant church member being recorded in a super-computer in the Vatican for use during future interrrogations!!!!!!????!!!!!!!!!
Don't take Alberto Rivera's words to heart! This man is associated with a comic book writer named Jack Chick!
Don't take these two clowns seriously! Everything they say about us Catholics is madness, everything, from Catholics having a hidden, robotic loyalty to the Vatican state from the names of every protestant church member being recorded in a super-computer in the Vatican for use during future interrrogations!!!!!!????!!!!!!!!!
When I say islam is Satanic, I mean literally it is the only pagan religion that actualyl has a direct possibility of being formulated directly from the mouth of Satan. The only other two possibilities is that either it is a demonic doctrine by which I mean literally a demon possessed Mohammad, or Mohammad made it all up of his own volition.
I have researched Mohammad's life. I will giveh im the benefit of the doubt that he was not intending to form the most blasphemous religion of all time and that he was twisted by Satan or a demon, but I know not which of the two it is, though either way, not good.
I have researched Mohammad's life. I will giveh im the benefit of the doubt that he was not intending to form the most blasphemous religion of all time and that he was twisted by Satan or a demon, but I know not which of the two it is, though either way, not good.
I
Hello everyone
i am new here and i am muslim.
I would love to be friend with you and if you have any question on islam and muslims feel free to ask or pm me
Shalom
i am new here and i am muslim.
I would love to be friend with you and if you have any question on islam and muslims feel free to ask or pm me
Shalom
May you find peace, love, and enlightenment here. And shame on anyone who has attacked this new person who just entered here at our place of gathering. Christ would not have done this! It is not love. Please forgive this site as a whole. There are many here who give Christianity a bad name. I would like to be friends with you. Thank you for coming here and offering yourself. I admire your courage. I actually admire many things about your people. There are actually many things about your people that are beautiful and accurate to the bible. Many are too blind to see. In order to cool off some smoking guns here, I want to give just one example of how Muslims are more biblical than many people who call themselves "Christians".
To those who call themselves "Christians" (who really aren't "Christ like").......
Did Christ follow a solar calendar that starts with January and ends in December? Do you follow that type of calendar yourself?? Then shame on you! January is the month of the pagan god janus. Many of the months are named after pagan gods. Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sat, are also the names of pagan gods as well. Each day of the week in this evil calendar is a day named after a pagan god. This whole calendar that many so called Christians use is un-biblical satanic garbage that was made in Rome by pope Gregory. That's why it is called the Gregorian calendar. The bible says have no other gods before me! Yet so many who say they are "Christ like" follow the Roman invented calendar and it's holy days (holidays) instead of God's calendar that is in the bible. God told us told us to follow his calendar forever and most don't even know what it is. Hypocrites! Shame on them. The biblical calendar is lunar and not solar and has holidays (holy days) that most who call themselves Christian don't even know much less practice. At least the calendar of the Muslims is lunar which shows more biblical accuracy than this mess that most follow. And to the best of my knowledge, they don't have other gods in their calendar. In this area, they shame the Christian world.
I do disagree with much of Islam and Mohammad's word. But let's focus on our common denominators and try to help each other out. We have much in common. After all we have the same enemy which is satan. Let's work together to destroy his work. Let's try and make straight whatever we can. This should be a place of communion not war.
I seek no negative thought, I seek to break the yoke of islam off the necks of our poor brothers caught in its evil snare for I know what it is, nothing more than the most twisted evil religion of the current time. For crying out loud, the Koran makes a mockery and blasphemy out of EVERY covenant in the Bible!