New Testament Conversion

[dcontroversal]

How does someone receive salvation??
1. Hear
2. Believe
3. Repent
4. Confess
5. Baptism

"How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?"
Romans 10:14

Step 1 Hear
"Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ."
Romans 10:17

First a person has to hear the word of God as this is where a person gets faith. A person's faith increases as he or she gets to know God from studying the Bible. By getting to know God, you begin to build a level of trust with God.

Step 2 Believe
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
John 3:16

Then you must believe that Jesus came to Earth and lived a sinless life, died for our sins, resurrected and now sits at the right hand of God.

3. Repentance
“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.” When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 2:36-38

A person must decide to repent of their sins.

4. Confess

As the scripture above also states that a person must confess that Jesus will now be the Lord of their life.

5. Baptism

At the point of Baptism a person is forgiven of their sins. The one thing that separates us from God. That is also the point in time we receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Throughout the process a person is being made into a disciple.

Matthew 28:18-20
Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

This process is repeated throughout the book of Acts. Would love to hear some feedback and get a discussion going.

baptism <-zero to do with salvation!

 

[notuptome]

Well, excuse me! Here I thought salvation was forgiveness of sin.

I am reading tenth century history when heathen Europe began to accept Christ. It was doing a lot to stop the violence, but that was due to obedience and you are saying that obedience doesn't matter! Have you told Christ about this? Christ speaks of repentance, you need to tell Christ repentance doesn't matter.

Salvation is being made alive in Christ and dead to sin. Until you are made a new creature in Christ you will return to your sin and remain condemned.

Read your bible as you do not know who wrote the tenth century history regarding heathen Europe. What about the heathen here in the USA? So religious and yet they are so lost because they substitute self righteousness for the righteousness of Christ.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[BillG]

Well, excuse me! Here I thought salvation was forgiveness of sin.

I am reading tenth century history when heathen Europe began to accept Christ. It was doing a lot to stop the violence, but that was due to obedience and you are saying that obedience doesn't matter! Have you told Christ about this? Christ speaks of repentance, you need to tell Christ repentance doesn't matter.

Is not salvation reconciliation to the Father as a result of the forgiveness off sins?

When we repent of the sin that Jesus said the Holy Spirt would come to convict us off "The sin of unbelief in him" after repentance then we are reconciled to the Father by faith.

That's salvation.

After which we seek to be like Jesus.
Wanting to be like him and growing in obedience. Sanctification?

 

[Blik]

There are other examples I can used to show that God did changed his instructions to mankind. I was just using physical circumcision because it was the clearest in scripture.

Others include eating of animals, which was not allowed before the flood, but had been allowed after that.

Any example you can give of God changing His mind is based on commandments He gave to lead His people to His true commandment. Diet control was to lead to them understanding how to feed their minds. Cutting foreskin was to lead to an understanding they belonged to the Lord. Not mixing fabrics was to lead to their acceptance of the way God created the world.

In Acts 15 we are told of these commands not being of use any more, for they weren't used to lead to the true commands but to keep them away from the commands.

There is no example of God changing His mind about His principals. Put on the mind of Christ and you would be able to understand that.

 

[Blik]

Salvation is being made alive in Christ and dead to sin. Until you are made a new creature in Christ you will return to your sin and remain condemned.

Read your bible as you do not know who wrote the tenth century history regarding heathen Europe. What about the heathen here in the USA? So religious and yet they are so lost because they substitute self righteousness for the righteousness of Christ.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Are you actually implying that Christians should not read history as well scripture? History tells us how God is acting in our world, do you think it is something Christians should not know?

Are you also against a college education for Christians?

 

[ForestGreenCook]

and lived a sinless life, died for our sins, resurrected and now sits at the right hand of God.

3. Repentance
“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.” When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.


2:36-38

A person must decide to repent of their sins.

4. Confess

As the scripture above also states that a person must confess that Jesus will now be the Lord of their life.

5. Baptism

At the point of Baptism a person is forgiven of their sins. The one thing that separates us from God. That is also the point in time we receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Throughout the process a person is being made into a disciple.

Matthew 28:18-20
Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

This process is repeated throughout the book of Acts. Would love to hear some feedback and get a discussion going.

Why is it not understood by you that the NP has replaced the OT except where indicated.
Christ is our way to Salvation not...blood offerings.[/QUOTE]
The Jew's that Peter was speaking to were not "cut to the heart" according to the KJV, they were "pricked in the heart. That is because their heart had already been changed in the new birth to a soft flesh heart. The Jews that Steven was preaching to were "cut to the heart" and had an angry stony heart, and stoned Steven to death. That is the difference in the regenerated man, and the natural man, before he has been regenerated.

 

[Blik]

Why is it not understood by you that the NP has replaced the OT except where indicated.
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You are adding to scripture, and we are told never to do that. There is nowhere that scripture tells us anything is replaced. Christ fulfilled, he completed what was told of in the OT. That means he completed it so it is fully operational.

Christ made it a point to tell us He changed nothing.

I would like to add that scripture also tells us God is eternal and is the same at all times. We can depend on that the principles God gives in Genesis are the same through to Revelation.



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[Guojing]

Any example you can give of God changing His mind is based on commandments He gave to lead His people to His true commandment. Diet control was to lead to them understanding how to feed their minds. Cutting foreskin was to lead to an understanding they belonged to the Lord. Not mixing fabrics was to lead to their acceptance of the way God created the world.

In Acts 15 we are told of these commands not being of use any more, for they weren't used to lead to the true commands but to keep them away from the commands.

There is no example of God changing His mind about His principals. Put on the mind of Christ and you would be able to understand that.

So my point is your premise "God never change" is incorrect. He changed his instructions to mankind a number of times.

We now understand why and can see the principle behind it. No doubt the principle remains unchanged, but that was not the point I was making.

 

[Blik]

So my point is your premise "God never change" is incorrect. He changed his instructions to mankind a number of times.

We now understand why and can see the principle behind it. No doubt the principle remains unchanged, but that was not the point I was making.

And my point is that God never changes His principles, they remained the same in the examples you gave at the core of their meaning. By only looking at the commands he gave to lead to His commandment, you are missing the point the Lord is trying to give to mortal man who understands the physical and can relate it to the spiritual meaning.