Nihilism?

[Jakob]

I know it's a philosophical/atheist belief.
“If we believe in nothing, if nothing has any meaning and if we can affirm no values whatsoever, then everything is possible and nothing has any importance.” That's from Albert Camus, the rebel.
The possible things has no meaning. It's nothing too.
We have to feel and be spirtual beings, not just see in the world and feel nothing, believe in nothing.
Nobody knows if we are nothing, we're just caught up in our own ego's and confusion about the reality, that we are gonna die someday, and rot. and the fear that comes with that, dying.
(this is mainly a question for atheist and Nihilism believers i guess)
What does the bible say about this?

 

[posthuman]

have you read Ecclesiastes?

the whole thing sort of deals with this topic, i think

 

[Jakob]

Thank you Posthuman, will read it now !

 

[pwrnJC]

What does the BIBLE say about this? lol Why not read it for yourself! Even though you are seeking instant answers and instant biblical knowledge here, it has to start with YOU...the BIBLE is there for YOU to dive into..to seek, to study, to apply and to live by....will GOD have to ask, "Jakob, did you seek ME by going to the internet when my WORD was there for you all the time?"

 

[Jakob]

Sorry PwrnJC, I didnt mean to annoy anyone. I do understand that I will have to read the bible myself, instead of this.
But I was just wondering about Nihilism, and wanted an "instant" answer, so I would know where to read in the bible.
One day I'm gonna start on page 1, and end on the last page on my bible. But currently there is a lot of questions in my head about these philosophical topics, where i get consumed by them, and want to know what the bible says.

 

[Ugly]

What does the BIBLE say about this? lol Why not read it for yourself! Even though you are seeking instant answers and instant biblical knowledge here, it has to start with YOU...the BIBLE is there for YOU to dive into..to seek, to study, to apply and to live by....will GOD have to ask, "Jakob, did you seek ME by going to the internet when my WORD was there for you all the time?"

Will God ask you if you sought Him by going on the internet all day criticizing and grumbling at people all day. Or scolding them for asking questions?

 

[Tintin]

have you read Ecclesiastes?

the whole thing sort of deals with this topic, i think

I second this. Ecclesiastes is the go-to book of the Bible for atheists.

 

[just-me]

I know it's a philosophical/atheist belief.
“If we believe in nothing, if nothing has any meaning and if we can affirm no values whatsoever, then everything is possible and nothing has any importance.” That's from Albert Camus, the rebel.
The possible things has no meaning. It's nothing too.
We have to feel and be spirtual beings, not just see in the world and feel nothing, believe in nothing.
Nobody knows if we are nothing, we're just caught up in our own ego's and confusion about the reality, that we are gonna die someday, and rot. and the fear that comes with that, dying.
(this is mainly a question for atheist and Nihilism believers i guess)
What does the bible say about this?

This is the rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless. The Bible throughout, gives meaning to life. That's what the Bible says.

This philosophy is insane because people who don't believe in anything are constantly questioning themselves,and asking; "Why am I here?" In reality the philosophy of nihilism doesn't exist. It's an oxymoron because there is a reason for rejection which puts purpose into the life of the person who rejects any meaning of life that has no purpose.

 

[Jakob]

Thank you just-me. Makes sense. I've seen that those who believes in this, is depressed and suicidal, cause they see no point. What a reality.. Then their role models is Kurt Cobain etc, and then ironicly, they treat him, celebrities, as a God.
Worshipping, analyzing everything he wrote etcetc.
(By the way not a stab against Kurt, he was a good soul, yet he just had wrong mindset)

 

[HQ]

I know it's a philosophical/atheist belief.
Nobody knows if we are nothing, we're just caught up in our own ego's and confusion about the reality, that we are gonna die someday, and rot. and the fear that comes with that, dying.
(this is mainly a question for atheist and Nihilism believers i guess)
What does the bible say about this?

Descartes coined the phrase "I think, therefore I am."

What did he mean by that? He meant that we couldn't even ask the question of whether we exist or not if we didn't exist. Therefore we must exist. This begs the question: how did we come into existence? Since we know that the irrational cannot create the rational we can infer that a rational mind created rational human beings.

 

[Jakob]

Basically philosophers questions can go in any direction depending on their answer, growing like a tree.
So let me get this right, they knew that we must exist. But how can they ask question about existence, that is outside of our "I's"?
Not knowing where we came is outside of what they feel, what they think.
They're all arrogant arent they? He said "I think, therefore I am" that can also leads questions like "I'm not sure if He or She thinks, so are they real? or am i just in like this weird kind of truman related-show". Like, getting their perception of reality and the "truth" from oneself ONLY. and only what the eyes see? not what he feels.
I have never heard a philosopher talk about his wife. Why? Cause they're so caught up in WANTING to have a meaning, to get away from Nihilism that has haunted them? To find a purpose where and why we exist, or if everything is just an accident.
Why cant they feel? To look at his wife, to love. How can they ask questions when love exist? Why dont they ask where LOVE comes from?
Man they need jesus huh.

 

[Joidevivre]

In very simple terms, just watch the face of a person you have shown some simple kindness to. And then tell me if that was meaningless. Or might it have changed a life?

 

[Magenta]

Scripture says in Psalm 14:1-2, The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. The LORD looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.

See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ. Col 2:8

For all can see that the wise die, that the foolish and the senseless also perish, leaving their wealth to others. Their tombs will remain their houses forever, their dwellings for endless generations, though they had named lands after themselves. People, despite their wealth, do not endure; they are like the beasts that perish. This is the fate of those who trust in themselves, and of their followers, who approve their sayings. Psalm 49:10-13

The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge. They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them. Yet their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world. In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun. Psalm 19:1-4

 

[HQ]

Basically philosophers questions can go in any direction depending on their answer, growing like a tree. So let me get this right, they knew that we must exist. But how can they ask question about existence, that is outside of our "I's"?

That's just doublepeak on their part. I'd turn the table on them. Just tell them that you'll no longer waste your time with people that aren't even sure they exist. When they protest then put them on the defensive by saying that you'll reconsider when they prove that they really do exist.

 

[posthuman]

Why cant they feel? To look at his wife, to love. How can they ask questions when love exist? Why dont they ask where LOVE comes from?
Man they need jesus huh.

this is like, what Camus should have asked at the end of The Stranger !

reading this reminded me of a song i heard yesterday, that said something i think you will appreciate

He is not a tame lion
He is not tame, He is good

they think that they can own the truth
how can we own the Truth?
He is the Truth! ​

 

[Jakob]

I agree.
I feel sorry for people who believe this.
Then you're gonna end up being like Hamlet from Shakespeare saying "To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks"
Basically suicidal, no purpose in life, to be alive or to be dead.
What about this one.
"Hamlet What is there to say anymore in this obsession?
If the answer is love, then what is the question?
Whether ‘tis nobler in the mind to suffer,
or grab some things this short life has to offer?"

 

[atwhatcost]

Basically philosophers questions can go in any direction depending on their answer, growing like a tree.
So let me get this right, they knew that we must exist. But how can they ask question about existence, that is outside of our "I's"?
Not knowing where we came is outside of what they feel, what they think.
They're all arrogant arent they? He said "I think, therefore I am" that can also leads questions like "I'm not sure if He or She thinks, so are they real? or am i just in like this weird kind of truman related-show". Like, getting their perception of reality and the "truth" from oneself ONLY. and only what the eyes see? not what he feels.
I have never heard a philosopher talk about his wife. Why? Cause they're so caught up in WANTING to have a meaning, to get away from Nihilism that has haunted them? To find a purpose where and why we exist, or if everything is just an accident.
Why cant they feel? To look at his wife, to love. How can they ask questions when love exist? Why dont they ask where LOVE comes from?
Man they need jesus huh.

Try Francis Schaeffer, a philosopher who, not only thought about his wife, but loved her and encouraged her to write her own books. They opened up a place for people to come to talk of the bigger things in life.

Oh yeah, because he was Christian.