"Not by works" - false!

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preacher4truth

preacher4truth

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EleventhHour said:
Being a "simpleton" has its advantages, keeps the Gospel, clear, clean and precise.
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I’m just noting the fact you and other simpleton’s agree and laugh along with mouthpieces lies, has not one thing to do with gospel belief as you try to make it out to be. It's about the lies you and others endorse and facilitate. :)
 
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jaybird88

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dcontroversal said:
Stick with the hookers and weed you mentioned in your post above......you seem to understand that better than the word.....!!
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i wish i could but i dont follow the "do what ever we want" idea, im a works person. like Jesus, the 12 and st Paul were.
 
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jaybird88

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azamzimtoti said:
Obviously they do to you or you wouldn't have responded to the guy in citing a list of "works" that you knew he was not even soeaking to - like polar opposite. This is where this type of argument makes people shake their heads.
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so do our works matter?
 
dcontroversal

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jaybird88 said:
so its clear as long as we ignore things such as Luther changing the scriptures and leading a crusade against the book of James.
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Are you in love with or have a fetish with Luther?

I have told you and this is the last time....could care less what that bozo had to say, believe, promote, push, peddle etc....The bible is clear...FAITH is what saves a man....NOT FAITH plus poodle jumping through religious hoops or works, law keeping, commandment keeping, or singing KUM Ba Yah while holding hands and dancing around the bush of religious band wagging.....!
 
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jaybird88

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DBurrage said:
If living a Christ-like life doesn't matter, does it not matter if one commits adultery, fornication, sex before marriage, etc etc.

These people want it both ways.
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this is the elephant they dont want to deal with. if works dont matter then you really can go out and sin all you want, die, go to heaven and they welcome you with open arms. its nonsensical.
 
preacher4truth

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jaybird88 said:
this is the elephant they dont want to deal with. if works dont matter then you really can go out and sin all you want, die, go to heaven and they welcome you with open arms. its nonsensical.
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It's the false gospel of Antinomianism.
 
dcontroversal

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DBurrage said:
If living a Christ-like life doesn't matter, does it not matter if one commits adultery, fornication, sex before marriage, etc etc.

These people want it both ways.
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In all honesty and easy as I can say it....If you honestly believe that we believe what you said in this post....you are either as dense as lead, ignorant of what we believe or just being wilfully obstinate and mouthy!
 
azamzimtoti

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jaybird88 said:
this is the elephant they dont want to deal with. if works dont matter then you really can go out and sin all you want, die, go to heaven and they welcome you with open arms. its nonsensical.
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False dichotomy - works = not sinning, or not sinning = works.
 
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jaybird88

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dcontroversal said:
Are you in love with or have a fetish with Luther?

I have told you and this is the last time....could care less what that bozo had to say, believe, promote, push, peddle etc....The bible is clear...FAITH is what saves a man....NOT FAITH plus poodle jumping through religious hoops or works, law keeping, commandment keeping, or singing KUM Ba Yah while holding hands and dancing around the bush of religious band wagging.....!
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where did the faith only idea come from?

no KUM Ba Yah singing is where i have to draw the line . . . . . . PAL!!
 
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preacher4truth said:
I’m just noting the fact you and other simpleton’s agree and laugh along with mouthpieces lies, has not one thing to do with gospel belief as you try to make it out to be. It's about the lies you and others endorse and facilitate. :)
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What I find more interesting is how you are supporting someone who preaches that the cross is not sufficient to cover all sins which I know you do not agree with.... so I would not be speaking about lies there are bigger issues at stake....imho

And I believe you challenged @dcontroversal from the start with regards to the keeping the commandments.. when in context it seemed clear he was referring to keeping them perfectly.
 
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@EleventhHour I feel we've got off on the wrong foot, so I'd like to take this opportunity to put everything aside and concentrate on something much more important: love.
I do love you Biblically.
Do you love me in the same way also?
 
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