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Seems you have come back with a vengeance... you know all sin was dealt with at the cross, somehow you keep missing that.:unsure:

And you keep twisting grace, being under grace and that fact that grace abounds.
I came back here and saw your backbiting.
You are still a baby in Christ. Or, you're not even saved to begin with.
Which one is it?

Does grace give you a pass on your backbiting?
 

mailmandan

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I said what the scriptures say. If you stand condemned by that, that's on you. You and others here are very deep in unrighteous, evil, hateful, divisive behavior, and for all the knowledge you osas people brag about having you don't even know it. You do not yet 'know' as you ought to know.
What does John 3:18 say? BTW I believe in Him.

I don't think you know what faith in God really means. You do not show that you do. You are stuck in the false security of (so-called) knowledge, not in the life of Christ. You have yet to 'see' Christ.
Who are you to judge me?
 
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SpoonJuly

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I came back here and saw your backbiting.
You are still a baby in Christ. Or, you're not even saved to begin with.
Which one is it?

Does grace give you a pass on your backbiting?
My real concern for you is your salvation.
 

BillG

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I said what the scriptures say. If you stand condemned by that, that's on you.
You and others here are very deep in unrighteous, evil, hateful, divisive behavior, and for all the knowledge you osas people brag about having you don't even know it. You do not yet 'know' as you ought to know.
Hi

I hope you don't me saying but you are being aggressive and personal which you normally haven't been. That's unusual for you.

Yes you attack doctrine but not people. Seems you are now attacking both.

@mailmandan is one of the most patient people on here. He does not attack people yet you attack him.
 

mailmandan

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Hi

I hope you don't me saying but you are being aggressive and personal which you normally haven't been. That's unusual for you.

Yes you attack doctrine but not people. Seems you are now attacking both.
In the past, he has generally been at least somewhat polite, but after returning, he has really become mean and nasty! :eek:
 

BillG

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That is a habit of most false accusers.

Harder to make false accusations against whole statements.


"Is this what it’s reduced to?"


"Yes, when you delete the rest."
Yep they do.
Simple question asked.

If you asked me if I sin then I would be honest and say yes.
But I would also say I hate it when I do and don't want to and ask Jesus to help me.
I acknowledge my need for Jesus to be like him and walk the way he as asked me to.
I even ask Jesus every day to reveal my sins of omission.

But for the sinless perfectionist sins of omission dont count.
 

John146

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In the past, he has generally been at least somewhat polite, but after returning, he has really become mean and nasty! :eek:
I thought so as well. Also, since coming back, he has used zero Scripture in his posts, just condemnation. Big red flag.
 
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EleventhHour

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I came back here and saw your backbiting.
You are still a baby in Christ. Or, you're not even saved to begin with.
Which one is it?

Does grace give you a pass on your backbiting?
Interestingly enough, believers who were hardest on me when I had wrong beliefs are the ones who actually caused me to see my errors.

We are hoping and praying the same for you ....... because we take no comfort in false doctrine, we know it ultimately it is far more destructive than any direct and targeted language.
 

Melach

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You people do not know the depth of wickedness that you dwell in. And your osas doctrine keeps you from seeing it.
[sarcasm]yes the nosas side of church is so great. the holy catholic church has never had any sins come out from there. the priests there are a-okay. [/sarcasm]
 

mailmandan

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Warning! If you believe you are sealed by the Holy Spirit of God unto the day of redemption, you are not of God. 😜
Eternal IN-securists seem to see it that way. I believe Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

I also believe Ephesians 4:30 - And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed unto/for the day of redemption. (y)
 

mailmandan

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I question whether you and others here even really know what the will of God is.
John 6:40 - For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raises them up at the last day. *That is God’s will for us to become saved.

1 Thessalonians 5:14 - Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all. 15 See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all. 16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. *That is God’s will for us after we have been saved.

The murderous hatred and condescension, in this thread particularly, shows me the church does not know what being a Christian is all about. Instead, the church takes false comfort in doctrinal constructs and beliefs and divisions and derives their sense of security and assurance from that.
That sounds over the top. Why so angry and bitter?
 
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"you are trusting in deceptive words that are worthless.

9“ ‘Will you steal and murder, commit adultery and perjury... 10and then come and stand before me in this house, which bears my Name, and say, “We are safe”—safe to do all these detestable things?" - Jeremiah 7:8-10
Oh yay....clap clap clap the religious bloviator is back to spread his religiously inept view.....just another cake taker
 

John146

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Never was.......always about faith
So why the statement, “it is no more of works”?

Also, what do you think of the following verse? “In the beginning of the gospel...”

Philippians 4:15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.
 
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Yes, baiting you with the truth.
The behavior of 'Christians' in this forum shows me the church does not know the truth.
They think excellence in osas and other sundry doctrines are what it means to know and live the truth.


I come into the forum after a two week absence and I see immature, godless, un-spiriutal back biting. But it seems that having correct osas doctrine is what really matters. Anyone who believes that is deceived and does not know God.
HAHAHAHHAHAHHHA man.....you are as far from the truth as heaven is from hell!
 
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So why the statement, “it is no more of works”?

Also, what do you think of the following verse? “In the beginning of the gospel...”

Philippians 4:15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.
Abraham believed God and it was put to his account for righteousness....

THE BIGGEST, MOST FATAL error that leads to hell in this age is CONFLATING the truth that FAITH alone has ALWAYS saved the believer with the CONDITIONAL COVENANT of BLESSING IN THE LAND which was based UPON OBEDIENCE.......
 
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Abraham believed God and it was put to his account for righteousness....

THE BIGGEST, MOST FATAL error that leads to hell in this age is CONFLATING the truth that FAITH alone has ALWAYS saved the believer with the CONDITIONAL COVENANT of BLESSING IN THE LAND which was based UPON OBEDIENCE.......
Amen!

1Sam 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

God Bless!